General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

I'm running Raspbian (on a raspi of course) and I'm just wondering... If I make a cronjob and I logout of my user, will those cronjobs still be running in the background or would I have to stay logged in?

cron should continue to run so long as the computer stays on

Anyone ever have any issues where pressing enter will occasionally spit out ^M to the terminal as opposed to sending the carriage return to the spawned process (pacman, sudo, etc)? I've had this pop up randomly across lxterminal, gnome-terminal, and xfce4-terminal, and will return to normal function with a `stty sane`.

Yeah especially with yaourt. My temporary fix is to use --noconfirm, but that could be dumb depending on what you're doing.

Why are my alt+key combinations not being passed to running applications in gnome-terminal anymore?

[QUOTE=deadeye536;46286762]Anyone ever have any issues where pressing enter will occasionally spit out ^M to the terminal as opposed to sending the carriage return to the spawned process (pacman, sudo, etc)? I've had this pop up randomly across lxterminal, gnome-terminal, and xfce4-terminal, and will return to normal function with a `stty sane`.[/QUOTE] are you using zsh?

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;46289639]are you using zsh?[/QUOTE] Oh, that could easily explain why it only started happening recently; completely skipped over zsh as a potential casual factor :v:

[t]http://i.imgur.com/QLBUeTQ.png[/t] I feel like I'm being mocked.

[QUOTE=deadeye536;46290822]Oh, that could easily explain why it only started happening recently; completely skipped over zsh as a potential casual factor :v:[/QUOTE] Yeah, for some reason zsh causes that for me. I think fish did it too. I don't know why.

I feel like I'm the only one using pure bash at the moment. I'd like to know some practical advantages of zsh and fish, from you experienced guys. What makes zsh and/or fish better? What are the main differences between bash, zsh and fish?

I use zsh, because of the autocomplete and how much you can modify it.

Fish has a more sane syntax and allows you to do shit like this: [img]http://i.imgur.com/U7h2sPL.png[/img] Also better completion, command suggestion etc [img]http://i.imgur.com/UxzsWRL.png[/img]

Hmm, I'll be giving fish and zsh a try tomorrow, to get a feel for myself. I'm not sure why I just didn't try them out myself, it's painless to install and configure things on Linux. Probably just got spoiled.

I would use fish if it had proper POSIX/bash support. Also most computers in the field run bash, switching syntaxes is a pain IMO

[QUOTE=supervoltage;46295611]Hmm, I'll be giving fish and zsh a try tomorrow, to get a feel for myself. I'm not sure why I just didn't try them out myself, it's painless to install and configure things on Linux. Probably just got spoiled.[/QUOTE] zsh is probably going to feel weird the first few times you accidentally press tab and get suggestions for things when bash would give you none.

Ubuntu 14.10 came out today. [img]http://i.imgur.com/hzA27Kj.png[/img] Quality release there! A++

when does any brand new OS work in VirtualBox

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;46316262]when does any brand new OS work in VirtualBox[/QUOTE] True but you'd figure there wouldn't be a whole lot of changes to Virtualbox's "graphics card", which Ubuntu generally can handle

and when does a non-LTS' Ubuntu release ever have a working graphics stack? :v:

Graphics stacks are Linux's kryptonite .

Oddly, I've never had any issues on Arch Linux, it basically works out of the box every time. Every Non-LTS release of Ubuntu has broken when I've tried it in the first week :v:

[QUOTE=IpHa;46316001]Ubuntu 14.10 came out today. [img]http://i.imgur.com/hzA27Kj.png[/img] Quality release there! A++[/QUOTE] You sure you've got enough video ram in there?

[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;46316262]when does any brand new OS work in VirtualBox[/QUOTE] Windows 10 Tech Preview worked out of the box. [editline]24th October 2014[/editline] Also anyone know if it's possible to use zsh without it shitting itself everytime it starts? I like zsh, but starting a terminal and having to WAIT even 0.2s for it to start is just dumb. When the terminal is up, the shell should pop up as instantly as possible, and even bash with liquidprompt works this way.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;46318906]Windows 10 Tech Preview worked out of the box.[/QUOTE] Only for some people, i had to use VMware.

[QUOTE=TrinityX;46318939]Only for some people, i had to use VMware.[/QUOTE] Worked out of the box for me on Funtoo Linux, didn't even have to change use flags or kernel configs or anything dumb like that. Just worked. Why wouldn't it though?

use kvm or quemu

Never had problems with new releases of Windows or ubuntu on Virtualbox.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;46318906]Also anyone know if it's possible to use zsh without it shitting itself everytime it starts? I like zsh, but starting a terminal and having to WAIT even 0.2s for it to start is just dumb. When the terminal is up, the shell should pop up as instantly as possible, and even bash with liquidprompt works this way.[/QUOTE] Er, 0.2 seconds is p good for zsh, especially if you're running any custom configs or plugins. Zsh has more features, it takes a second. You can try some of this, dunno if it will help: [URL]http://blog.patshead.com/2011/04/improve-your-oh-my-zsh-startup-time-maybe.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;46319465]Worked out of the box for me on Funtoo Linux, didn't even have to change use flags or kernel configs or anything dumb like that. Just worked. Why wouldn't it though?[/QUOTE] It was some kind of "CPU not supported" error...

[QUOTE=TrinityX;46320699]It was some kind of "CPU not supported" error...[/QUOTE] You wouldn't be happening to run it on a VMM enabled system with no VT-x?