But the ones in the rpmfusion repos are licensed under GPLv3. Why can't they just ship those?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/zetdOUT.png[/t]
[editline]3rd November 2014[/editline]
Looks like it's patended... Fucking microsoft man.
When are they going to drop all of their old filesystems and build a new one?
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;46395882]But the ones in the rpmfusion repos are licensed under GPLv3. Why can't they just ship those?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/zetdOUT.png[/t]
[editline]3rd November 2014[/editline]
Looks like it's patended... Fucking microsoft man.
When are they going to drop all of their old filesystems and build a new one?[/QUOTE]
They attempted to revive HPFS (without it being HPFS, but instead as a Microsoft-patented-exclusive product) as WinFS, but as you might recall, it failed. Even though it would've been a step in the right direction.
Remember that for a company such as Microsoft, changing things drastically and risking breakage is a no-go.
[QUOTE=mastersrp;46397579]They attempted to revive HPFS (without it being HPFS, but instead as a Microsoft-patented-exclusive product) as WinFS, but as you might recall, it failed. Even though it would've been a step in the right direction.
Remember that for a company such as Microsoft, changing things drastically and risking breakage is a no-go.[/QUOTE]
Bring out a journaled filesystem without any patents
Make it optional in windows 10
Make it manditory in windows 11
???
profit
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;46397804]Bring out a journaled filesystem without any patents
Make it optional in windows 10
Make it manditory in windows 11
???
profit[/QUOTE]
You know that they can't use a case-sensitive filesystem else it'd pretty much break every application in existence, and as soon as any big wig hears that I'm sure it gets turned down. I'm sure there's other issues than just case sensitivity too. (max path length, etc).
[editline]asfd[/editline]
Or maybe they just don't want to phase out all those applications that defrag ntfs.
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;46399274]You know that they can't use a case-sensitive filesystem else it'd pretty much break every application in existence, and as soon as any big wig hears that I'm sure it gets turned down. I'm sure there's other issues than just case sensitivity too. (max path length, etc).
[editline]asfd[/editline]
Or maybe they just don't want to phase out all those applications that defrag ntfs.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe we can collectively try to convince the companies we work for to use Linux, and slowly spread the word as we move on.
Hopefully that could bring in some popularity.
Hopefully.
Why do I have to get a Microsoft Certificate :(
[QUOTE=mastersrp;46399666]Or maybe we can collectively try to convince the companies we work for to use Linux, and slowly spread the word as we move on.
Hopefully that could bring in some popularity.
Hopefully.
Why do I have to get a Microsoft Certificate :([/QUOTE]
I just flatout refused to get a M$ cert and didn't show up for the test.
For some reason I have a M$ cert now.
[editline]asd[/editline]
Not sure if it's the same cert but mine was a standardised european proficiency with microsoft products certificate. Forgot what it was called but it's fucking useless and a waste of time. For some reason it was manditory.
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;46399973]I just flatout refused to get a M$ cert and didn't show up for the test.
For some reason I have a M$ cert now.
[editline]asd[/editline]
Not sure if it's the same cert but mine was a standardised european proficiency with microsoft products certificate. Forgot what it was called but it's fucking useless and a waste of time. For some reason it was manditory.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I think that may be what we're getting too, but I really don't care. I don't even want to touch a Microsoft product if I can help it.
Which is why I'm using Ubuntu in my classes too. However, as we move on to more Microsoft specific tasks, I may have to use Windows 7 as well, which is what I'm currently dual booting the school PC I use with, although I might just get it installed in a VirtualBox setup and use Ubuntu for the entire HDD (or maybe funtoo? that'd be pretty neat).
Hi guys I'm a complete noob at this type of thing as I've only used linux for things other than hosting servers but I'd like to ask a question.
So I wanted to run a linux variant on a server machine that I've just bought with a GUI, and I've just downloaded Lubuntu as this thing has about 16mb of video memory but has 32GB of ram and two quad core opterons, do you think this is a suitable distro? I want to run a minecraft server on it from time to time and also pump it full of virtual machines and I wasn't sure which OS to go with that has a GUI and doesn't come filled with unnecessary software that I won't use.
[QUOTE=based;46400592]Hi guys I'm a complete noob at this type of thing as I've only used linux for things other than hosting servers but I'd like to ask a question.
So I wanted to run a linux variant on a server machine that I've just bought with a GUI, and I've just downloaded Lubuntu as this thing has about 16mb of video memory but has 32GB of ram and two quad core opterons, do you think this is a suitable distro? I want to run a minecraft server on it from time to time and also pump it full of virtual machines and I wasn't sure which OS to go with that has a GUI and doesn't come filled with unnecessary software that I won't use.[/QUOTE]
You should be just fine, although if your trying to learn how to make a professional server, I would recommend using a distro designed for sever management (Like CentOS or Debian). But You should be just fine.
[QUOTE=based;46400592]Hi guys I'm a complete noob at this type of thing as I've only used linux for things other than hosting servers but I'd like to ask a question.
So I wanted to run a linux variant on a server machine that I've just bought with a GUI, and I've just downloaded Lubuntu as this thing has about 16mb of video memory but has 32GB of ram and two quad core opterons, do you think this is a suitable distro? I want to run a minecraft server on it from time to time and also pump it full of virtual machines and I wasn't sure which OS to go with that has a GUI and doesn't come filled with unnecessary software that I won't use.[/QUOTE]
That server seems like a mayor overkill. Also GUIs on servers are wasted resources.
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;46400779]That server seems like a mayor overkill. Also GUIs on servers are wasted resources.[/QUOTE]
It is a huge overkill for its purpose but I got it second hand and I might as well use it, as time goes on I'm sure it'll gather more purposes anyway.
[QUOTE=based;46400880]It is a huge overkill for its purpose but I got it second hand and I might as well use it, as time goes on I'm sure it'll gather more purposes anyway.[/QUOTE]
Just increse capacity if you need more. Never get servers if you don't know what you're going to do with at least 80% of the resources.
Ayy I'm back again with a completely unrelated question for you all
What's the best looking stock linux variant in your opinion?
[QUOTE=based;46409753]Ayy I'm back again with a completely unrelated question for you all
What's the best looking stock linux variant in your opinion?[/QUOTE]
Manjaro looks really nice if dark is your style: [url]http://manjaro.org/[/url]
Despite its usability, you might like the looks of Ubuntu too: [url]http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop[/url]
I'm not much of a fan, but many people love the looks of ElementaryOS: [url]http://elementaryos.org/[/url]
You can see a stock gnome look in Fedora.
OpenSuSe shows KDE quite nicely.
I like Manjaro most, but that really is my very personal opinion.
[QUOTE=FPtje;46409945]Manjaro looks really nice if dark is your style: [url]http://manjaro.org/[/url][/QUOTE]
It's not for me, but you might like CrunchBang too.
[QUOTE=FPtje;46409945]
I'm not much of a fan, but many people love the looks of ElementaryOS: [url]http://elementaryos.org/[/url]
[/QUOTE]
i remember using elementary OS when it was back in beta, my god was it awful at that time.
seems to have come a long way though.
[QUOTE=based;46409753]Ayy I'm back again with a completely unrelated question for you all
What's the best looking stock linux variant in your opinion?[/QUOTE]
ubuntu studio probably has my favourite default xfce setup
i'm guessing xubuntu is similar to that
Debian minimal seems to use far less memory than Arch does on my old laptop. Wish I could get Arch to use less memory because I prefer its package management.
Apt-get doesn't seem to "just work". Also hunting for packages on Debian is a bitch. With Arch you just have to use Yaourt and you're good.
[QUOTE=elevate;46412805]Debian minimal seems to use far less memory than Arch does on my old laptop. Wish I could get Arch to use less memory because I prefer its package management.
Apt-get doesn't seem to "just work". Also hunting for packages on Debian is a bitch. With Arch you just have to use Yaourt and you're good.[/QUOTE]
Eh, using apt-cache search works pretty well.
apt-get seems hella dirty after using a package manager with a [url=http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Libzypp_satsolver]solver that treats package dependencies as a boolean satisfiability problem[/url]
it really really makes it idiot-proof to install packages having that
if you're not using aptitude to install things, even at the command line, you're part of the problem with Debian.
-snip-
I should Google before I post
[QUOTE=Little Donny;46413995]apt-get seems hella dirty after using a package manager with a [url=http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Libzypp_satsolver]solver that treats package dependencies as a boolean satisfiability problem[/url]
it really really makes it idiot-proof to install packages having that[/QUOTE]
[quote]
Very fast
• package solving complexity is very low compared to other
areas where SAT solvers are used[/quote]
I'm sceptic, since it's an NP-complete algorithm. Too many dependency relationships/boolean values in the SAT and you're fucked waiting for a solution.
Trying out fedora 21 beta now.
Looks pretty solid and Gnome seems to have improved quite a bit since I last used it (~2 Years ago).
Can't wait to install the stable version on my Zenbook, and try out the gnome wayland session.
But hey, it's probably better than GHC's package manager:
[code]
falco@manjaro ~/D/u/a/exam> cabal install lens data-lens
Resolving dependencies...
In order, the following would be installed:
reflection-1.5.1 (new package)
semigroupoids-4.0.4 (latest: 4.2) (new version)
bifunctors-4.1.1.1 (reinstall) changes: semigroupoids-4.2 -> 4.0.4
data-lens-2.10.5 (new package)
profunctors-4.2.0.1 (reinstall) changes: semigroupoids-4.2 -> 4.0.4
free-4.9 (reinstall) changes: semigroupoids-4.2 -> 4.0.4
split-0.2.2 (new package)
zlib-0.5.4.1 (new package)
lens-4.4.0.2 (new package)
cabal: The following packages are likely to be broken by the reinstalls:
either-4.3.0.2
criterion-1.0.1.0
Use --force-reinstalls if you want to install anyway.
[/code]
which demands you reinstall packages when they're suddenly an indirect dependency of a package you want to install, with the risk of packages breaking when reinstalling. (?)
What package manager even breaks packages on reinstall!?
[editline]5th November 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=kaukassus;46414962]Trying out fedora 21 beta now.
Looks pretty solid and Gnome seems to have improved quite a bit since I last used it (~2 Years ago).
Can't wait to install the stable version on my Zenbook, and try out the gnome wayland session.[/QUOTE]
HEY YOU!!
[QUOTE=based;46410709]i remember using elementary OS when it was back in beta, my god was it awful at that time.
seems to have come a long way though.[/QUOTE]
And it's still horrible
[QUOTE=Adam.GameDev;46416779]And it's still horrible[/QUOTE]
although, it does serve it's purpose!
[QUOTE=elevate;46412805]Debian minimal seems to use far less memory than Arch does on my old laptop. Wish I could get Arch to use less memory because I prefer its package management.
Apt-get doesn't seem to "just work". Also hunting for packages on Debian is a bitch. With Arch you just have to use Yaourt and you're good.[/QUOTE]
Might end up having to compile a custom kernel for Arch if Aptitude isn't to my liking. At least I'll learn from it.
Tinkering is admittedly fun.
In case you haven't already, install the "oneko" package (sudo apt-get install oneko) and run it. Super fun, especially during lonly nights of programming alone in my dorm.
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