General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install

[Jivel1]

Ubuntu really thought me nothing about using Linux. Having an interface do things for you will rarely teach you how to actually do it yourself.

[Muracle]

I used Linux Mint for a bit before but it didn't really seem much different to Ubuntu other than the UI? I use cinnamon on Ubuntu anyway so I didn't notice anything different really.

I enjoy messing around with things a lot and trying to get things working, it keeps me busy while I have nothing to do.

If I can get Skype and Steam working well on Arch Linux then I don't really mind messing around with other things and learning things along the way(I'm also starting to learn python - LEARN ALL THE THINGS!).

[Nightrazr]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41414695]I used Linux Mint for a bit before but it didn't really seem much different to Ubuntu other than the UI? I use cinnamon on Ubuntu anyway so I didn't notice anything different really.

I enjoy messing around with things a lot and trying to get things working, it keeps me busy while I have nothing to do.

If I can get Skype and Steam working well on Arch Linux then I don't really mind messing around with other things and learning things along the way(I'm also starting to learn python - LEARN ALL THE THINGS!).[/QUOTE]

Mint basically is Ubuntu with UI changes.

[a7y]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41413561]I am started to me more interested in Linux and I'm starting to have a lot more fun, I think I'm going to give it a whole harddrive now rather than just a 50gb which is almost full. Now.. I've used Ubuntu basically all the time I've had Linux and I'm thinking of maybe switching to Arch Linux? I've heard a lot of good things about it and I really want to understand/learn more about Linux so I'm guessing its a good way to go? The Arch Wiki is wonderful and almost enough to convince me to switch to it already :D

Does anyone use Steam on Arch Linux? How is it? Everything work okay?[/QUOTE]

I highly encourage you to continue the way you're headed. Regardless if you end up using Arch permanently or not, you will learn a lot from as little as installing it. Imo it doesn't matter how much of a Linux noob you are. If you're more than willing to use the Arch wiki and put your Google-fu to use, you're ready.

Steam works perfectly fine, by the way.

[stringy]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41414695]I used Linux Mint for a bit before but it didn't really seem much different to Ubuntu other than the UI? I use cinnamon on Ubuntu anyway so I didn't notice anything different really.

I enjoy messing around with things a lot and trying to get things working, it keeps me busy while I have nothing to do.

If I can get Skype and Steam working well on Arch Linux then I don't really mind messing around with other things and learning things along the way(I'm also starting to learn python - LEARN ALL THE THINGS!).[/QUOTE]

You sound like you would [i]really[/i] enjoy Arch. It's really satisfying to get something working exactly as you like it, and Arch lets you get there if you have the time. Like jetboy said, Steam works great, and I can attest to Skype working well too, although I haven't really used it since Steam came along (I just use it's voice chat instead).

Also, it might be wise to have another computer nearby with a more stable desktop setup while you're putting together your Arch system; the wiki is definitely nice to have.

[sabreman]

I've tried like 10 different distros already, which included the Debian, fedora, and Gentoo flavors of linux.

I still like arch the most, mainly because you can't get the same bleeding edge packages with such fast install time and high levels of control anywhere else.

[supervoltage]

Hey there guys, I come with a problem. GMod keeps crashing while loading up (more specifically at the "Initializing all game systems" part). This is what it spits out:

./hl2.sh: line 67:  1325 Trace/breakpoint trap   (core dumped) ${GAME_DEBUGGER} "${GAMEROOT}"/${GAMEEXE} "$@"

I'm using Arch Linux x86_64. I'm using the [url=https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/catalyst-test/]catalyst-test[/url] driver. It's not a problem with addons in GMod, since I've moved all of my addons to a backup directory. Validating the game files yields no "failed to validate" files.

Please help me, good friends!

[Goz3rr]

Anyone knows what's causing this?

/sbin/mount.davfs: can't open fuse device
/sbin/mount.davfs: trying coda kernel file system
libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/2.6.32-042stab076.8/modules.dep.bin'
/sbin/mount.davfs: no free coda device to mount
libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/2.6.32-042stab076.8/modules.dep.bin'

when trying to mount box.net using davfs2

/lib/modules only contains the folder 3.2.0-4-686-pae

uname -a:
Linux vps2 2.6.32-042stab076.8 #1 SMP Tue May 14 20:38:14 MSK 2013 i686 GNU/Linux

cat /etc/issue:
Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l

I tried to update the kernel from 2.6 to 3.2 but then realized that wasn't possible since it uses OpenVZ host kernel

I copied /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-686-pae to 2.6.32-042stab076.8 and tried again, then it shows:

/sbin/mount.davfs: can't open fuse device
/sbin/mount.davfs: trying coda kernel file system
ERROR: could not insert 'fuse': Operation not permitted
/sbin/mount.davfs: no free coda device to mount
ERROR: could not insert 'coda': Operation not permitted

[Muracle]

Posting this from Arch Linux :D That was a long install... but a lot of fun! learnt quite a bit as well, although I did manage to format my ssd which includes my windows install(oops).

I installed cinnamon for the DE and that went all okay, only got firefox up and running now. Is there anywhere I can look through apps and such that I might need? I'm currently a bit confused on how to get Firefox into the cinnamon menu so I can launch it from there rather than through terminal. Any help? :)

[.Lain]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41424780]Posting this from Arch Linux :D That was a long install... but a lot of fun! learnt quite a bit as well, although [B]I did manage to format my ssd which includes my windows install(oops)[/B].

I installed cinnamon for the DE and that went all okay, only got firefox up and running now. Is there anywhere I can look through apps and such that I might need? I'm currently a bit confused on how to get Firefox into the cinnamon menu so I can launch it from there rather than through terminal. Any help? :)[/QUOTE]
This will inevitably happen to every linux newcomer

[Muracle]

So I plan on making a partition on my SSD for arch linux and windows. If I give say Arch Linux 20gb, can I put the home folder on a different hard drive? Also I had to install syslinux because grub wasn't working so how do I go about install windows without overwriting the bootloader for linux?

[.Lain]

Yes, that should be fine. You can change the location of /home in fstab
also, just get GRUB working. It's worth it in the end

[Muracle]

So what would be the way of doing this?

1. Move /home over to my other hdd
2. Make a partition on my ssd so I can run have both windows and linux on it.
3. Install Windows onto the partition.
4. Boot into windows and download/install grub somehow.

I might make two partitions on my other hdd so I have a bit more space since installing things on Windows always takes up way too much space.

So should that work? I remember that windows just overwrites grub so there really isn't much point install it now, is there?

[stringy]

I'm using syslinux and it chainloads windows just fine. Of course I do have them on completely separate drives (mildly easier and I'm not so worried windows will tamper with my linux install) but I think you can just follow the [url=http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Comboot/chain.c32]Syslinux Wiki[/url] or even use the Arch Wiki (I think it has a section in the article on Syslinux). But if you are worried then just go with GRUB :v:

[editline]12th July 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=supervoltage;41424519]Hey there guys, I come with a problem. GMod keeps crashing while loading up (more specifically at the "Initializing all game systems" part). This is what it spits out:

./hl2.sh: line 67:  1325 Trace/breakpoint trap   (core dumped) ${GAME_DEBUGGER} "${GAMEROOT}"/${GAMEEXE} "$@"

I'm using Arch Linux x86_64. I'm using the [url=https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/catalyst-test/]catalyst-test[/url] driver. It's not a problem with addons in GMod, since I've moved all of my addons to a backup directory. Validating the game files yields no "failed to validate" files.

Please help me, good friends![/QUOTE]

I don't know that this applies (the package you listed includes something to do with lib32 already) but [url=https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1197703#p1197703]this thread[/url] suggests its due to missing lib32 graphics drivers. Take a look through it and try the other possible fixes people suggest.

[editline]12th July 2013[/editline]

Also, Vim supports undofiles now, so you can continue to undo after opening a previously edited buffer :v:

[Muracle]

for some reason transmission is downloading at 0kb/s and can't even download meta data... This is bad.

[a7y]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41426086]for some reason transmission is downloading at 0kb/s and can't even download meta data... This is bad.[/QUOTE]

Could your ISP/router/firewall be blocking its traffic? Transmission has always worked fine for me.

[Muracle]

I installed utorrent using wine and that seems to be working well enough for now.

Having to download windows 7 so I can use it in a virtualbox so I can download my version of windows 8.

[a7y]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41426337]
-post-[/QUOTE]

Quick, snip that.

[.Lain]

Nothing warez about what he posted
an ISO for pretty much every windows version is obtainable legally online.

[Comfy]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41426337]I installed utorrent using wine and that seems to be working well enough for now.

Having to download windows 7 so I can use it in a virtualbox so I can download my version of windows 8.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/14709-Windows-7-Digital-River-direct-links-Multiple-Languages-X86-amp-X64/page60[/url]

Use the official windows 7 iso download.

[Ca5bah]

[video=youtube;VjGSMUep6_4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGSMUep6_4[/video]

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41425132]I remember that windows just overwrites grub so there really isn't much point install it now, is there?[/QUOTE]

Only during initial install.

Afterwards you can just reinstall GRUB and Windows won't do anything.

[supervoltage]

[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;41425319]I don't know that this applies (the package you listed includes something to do with lib32 already) but [url=https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1197703#p1197703]this thread[/url] suggests its due to missing lib32 graphics drivers. Take a look through it and try the other possible fixes people suggest.[/QUOTE]

The catalyst-test package I mentioned earlier installs its lib32 version, too. All other Source games work fine (pretty much every other game works except GMod). Could it be that Garry or Valve updated their games? I think not, since I saw nobody complain about the game not working for them.

All I wanted to do was to fool around in GMod and this happens.

[Muracle]

How do I go about installing Grub from inside Windows?

[Ca5bah]

0[QUOTE=Muracle;41439945]How do I go about installing Grub from inside Windows?[/QUOTE]

\

you don't.

[benbb]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41439945]How do I go about installing Grub from inside Windows?[/QUOTE]

Grub4DOS maybe?

[url]http://www.diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/install_windows.htm#windows3[/url]

[Muracle]

I used EasyBCD to make the windows dual boot select thing recognise linux so that'll do for now :)

Can I save my boot settings? Everytime I go to boot Arch Linux I have to press tab and change it from /sda3 to /sda2 since I messed up the config in installation.

[benbb]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41440064]I used EasyBCD to make the windows dual boot select thing recognise linux so that'll do for now :)

Can I save my boot settings? Everytime I go to boot Arch Linux I have to press tab and change it from /sda3 to /sda2 since I messed up the config in installation.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I was just going to recommend EasyBCD too. Stupidly useful tool.
Can't you just edit your GRUB menu file and then rerun grub-install?

[Muracle]

I installed Arch Linux using syslinux.

Has anyone got Spyder running on Arch Linux? Having problems installing it, mainly dependences.

If I try "makepkg -s" is fails to find some of the dependencies... I hate programs that aren't in the official repo :p

[benbb]

[QUOTE=Muracle;41440673]I installed Arch Linux using syslinux.

Has anyone got Spyder running on Arch Linux? Having problems installing it, mainly dependences.

If I try "makepkg -s" is fails to find some of the dependencies... I hate programs that aren't in the official repo :p[/QUOTE]

The dependencies are all in the AUR.
[url]https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/spyder/[/url]

Have you considered using an automated AUR package manager like Yaourt?
[url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Yaourt[/url]