General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

I second the reenabling. Also, I sometimes just have to manually restart the daemon, and for some reason the systemd unit doesn't work for me so I just start it manually... Cups isn't the nicest interface to a printer I've ever used.

-snip, got it working-

Tumbler can go choke on a massive bunch of rotting bullcocks Massively hogging up Memory, both in the shape of RAM and SWAP. [SUP][SUP]Tumblr can also go do the afromented action, though that's not Linux relevant.[/SUP][/SUP] [editline]21st March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=HarryHy;39946613]Pretty sure Clementine does all that in the most recent version unless I'm overlooking something (might want to check what version you're using if you can't find that, as I think the version in Ubuntu's repos is really old).[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Clementine's website]You can download the latest version of Clementine on Ubuntu from the official PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:me-davidsansome/clementine sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install clementine[/QUOTE]

elementary os luna is fucking beaut software centre fucking sucks though

Using Elementary OS on my netbook, runs like a charm. Sometimes the top bar crashes when I try to change the volume on it, but that can be expected from a beta, and it's no problem because I can use the shortcut keys on my netbook. Also the software center is just the Ubuntu one, encased in an Elementary OS window. I ended up uninstalling it because keyring kept causing me problems, and when I went to uninstall keyring it said I had to uninstall software center, but you can still get everything from apt-get

[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;39999219]Using Elementary OS on my netbook, runs like a charm. Sometimes the top bar crashes when I try to change the volume on it, but that can be expected from a beta, and it's no problem because I can use the shortcut keys on my netbook. Also the software center is just the Ubuntu one, encased in an Elementary OS window. I ended up uninstalling it because keyring kept causing me problems, and when I went to uninstall keyring it said I had to uninstall software center, but you can still get everything from apt-get[/QUOTE] I intend to test the elementaryOS desktop, pantheon, sometime later on different operating systems. If any of you Sabayon/Gentoo users out there are interrested, do let me know, and I'll post some screenshots or whatever in this thread.

Configuring Arch just gets even better and more entertaining. [t]http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7514/screenshot02hs.png[/t]

Is there a reliable antivirus for Ubuntu or Linux Mint 14? BitDefender takes a shit a lot.

You don't really need a Linux antivirus, because Linux is itself an antivirus. But if you really insist... ClamAV. Command-line shit but hell, it's reliable if configured properly.

[QUOTE=Foxconn;39999815]You don't really need a Linux antivirus, because Linux is itself an antivirus. But if you really insist... ClamAV. Command-line shit but hell, it's reliable if configured properly.[/QUOTE] I was infected with one in Ubuntu, is there a GUI version?

[QUOTE=digigamer17;39999824]I was infected with one in Ubuntu, is there a GUI version?[/QUOTE] Yes, ClamTk ... WHAT THE FUCK?!?! You got INFECTED with a fucking VIRUS on LINUX?! HOW is this even POSSIBLE? Do you have WINE installed?

[QUOTE=Foxconn;39999832]Yes, ClamTk[/QUOTE] I guess that'll do.

Getting infected with something on Linux requires quite a bit of skill, seeing as most attacks targeting Linux are aimed at servers.

[QUOTE=Foxconn;39999832] WHAT THE FUCK?!?! You got INFECTED with a fucking VIRUS on LINUX?! HOW is this even POSSIBLE? Do you have WINE installed?[/QUOTE] Nothing was installed, I was in GMail and doing schoolwork. Some malware got into my system and downloaded fake antivirus software. I had to reinstall everything and switched back to Windows and never got malware since then. So yeah I might be installing Linux Mint soon, on my old netbook that is. Well I do need to be assured that I'd be safe from viruses/malware/trojans on Linux, if I had a virus on a linux partition, it'd get onto the Windows one. Better safe than sorry.

What Linux system did you use back then? Do you realize that viruses for Linux will ONLY work if they are compiled for a target distribution on a target kernel? And that a Linux virus will never work in Windows because of the architecture and library difference?

has anyone tried chrubuntu? I'm planning to buy the chromebook from samsung (the $250 one) and install chrubuntu on it. Is there any limit on things I can do on other than play video games.

[QUOTE=Foxconn;39999898]What Linux system did you use back then? Do you realize that viruses for Linux will ONLY work if they are compiled for a target distribution on a target kernel? And that a Linux virus will never work in Windows because of the architecture and library difference?[/QUOTE] I was only worried that would happen but I guess not. I had Ubuntu 12.04.

Ubuntu is complete shit that wouldn't even last three single days without updating and configuring it deeper than you should. Get Arch with [url=http://unity.xe-xe.org/]Unity repo[/url].

[QUOTE=Foxconn;39999898]Do you realize that viruses for Linux will ONLY work if they are compiled for a target distribution on a target kernel?[/QUOTE] Eh, not really? What you're talking about sounds more like a rootkit. It all depends on what you want it to do.

[QUOTE=Foxconn;39999961]Ubuntu is complete shit that wouldn't even last three single days without updating and configuring it deeper than you should. Get Arch with [URL="http://unity.xe-xe.org/"]Unity repo[/URL].[/QUOTE] Do you realize how freaking hard Arch Linux is for the average user? You're talking about something who got a virus on one of the safest platforms available, I'm not sure switching to a do-everything-yourself distro makes sense.

[QUOTE=gparent;40000001]I'm not sure switching to a do-everything-yourself distro makes sense.[/QUOTE] Arch is not a DIY distro. It's not even that hard to get it right. If someone would come to compiling and configuring everything on his own, I'd just throw Gentoo or LFS cues at him.

[QUOTE=Foxconn;40000030]Arch is not a DIY distro. It's not even that hard to get it right. If someone would come to compiling and configuring everything on his own, I'd just throw Gentoo or LFS cues at him.[/QUOTE] "Not even that hard" Compared to Ubuntu, it's like building your own Ikea.

[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;40000203]Compared to Ubuntu, it's like building your own Ikea.[/QUOTE] Everything compared to Ubuntu, even Fedora and Debian, are like building your own Ikea. Because each version is built to run as slow as possible on newest hardware and contain an almost unconfigurable interface with no littlest chance of tweaking without the direct intervention into the system. Yes, it's that dumbed down now. All thanks to the Ubuntu community a.k.a. gay-ass army of Shuttleworth's fanboys.

[QUOTE=Foxconn;40000397]Everything compared to Ubuntu, even Fedora and Debian, are like building your own Ikea. Because each version is built to run as slow as possible on newest hardware and contain an almost unconfigurable interface with no littlest chance of tweaking without the direct intervention into the system. Yes, it's that dumbed down now. All thanks to the Ubuntu community a.k.a. gay-ass army of Shuttleworth's fanboys.[/QUOTE] Debian and Fedora are as easy. What are you talking about?

[QUOTE=Foxconn;40000397]Everything compared to Ubuntu, even Fedora and Debian, are like building your own Ikea. Because each version is built to run as slow as possible on newest hardware and contain an almost unconfigurable interface with no littlest chance of tweaking without the direct intervention into the system Yes, it's that dumbed down now. All thanks to the Ubuntu community a.k.a. gay-ass army of Shuttleworth's fanboys.[/QUOTE] It's only the user interface that's been simplified, but that can be changed. I was using the classic GNome like they had with Hardy Heron.

[QUOTE=Foxconn;40000397]Everything compared to Ubuntu, even Fedora and Debian, are like building your own Ikea. Because each version is built to run as slow as possible on newest hardware and contain an almost unconfigurable interface with no littlest chance of tweaking without the direct intervention into the system. Yes, it's that dumbed down now. All thanks to the Ubuntu community a.k.a. gay-ass army of Shuttleworth's fanboys.[/QUOTE] Calm down a bit I have to agree that the Ubuntu community does seem a bit stuck-up sometimes about the superiority of their distro. Additionally, I certainly can't agree with some of the Shuttleworth camp's decisions, like rolling their [url=http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/]own DVCS[/url] when we already had two [url=http://git-scm.com/]good[/url] [url=http://mercurial.selenic.com/]choices[/url], announcing the adoption of Wayland years ago when it's [I]still[/I] kinda difficult to set up and get to work (and moreover, deciding to scrap it and [I]roll their own system[/I], and developing their own replacement for init which was cool at first but now seems inferior to systemd. Actually, you could just say that I hate how Ubuntu seems to try using new technologies for the sake of new technologies. Back when I started using Linux, Ubuntu was the shit. It was user-friendly and pretty much represented the standard GNOME desktop of the time. For those slightly more adventurous was Debian and the people who knew what they were doing just used whatever felt right. But Ubuntu was awesome. At some point, I adopted it as my [I]only[/I] OS. Dumped Vista out of the window and got Ubuntu. Skip a year or a few, I reboot my computer to be greeted with no login screen, just the GNOME error sound. I reinstalled, managed to log in once... And on the next reboot, the same happened again. Combined with earlier issues like Gwibber and Empathy initially shipping in an utterly broken state, I decided to ditch Ubuntu for Arch and it's what I've used since. The morale of this story is that Ubuntu is no longer for users like me. And the community kinda sucks. But it's an okay distro, and it certainly seems to be the face of Linux to the outside world, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I never had any performance issues on Ubuntu. None at all. And considering the computers I've run it on, that is a [I]massive achievement[/I]. If you manage to get Ubuntu to run slower than any other distro, you certainly have a knack for fucking shit up majorly. And what comes to the unconfigurable interface, I take it you don't know how to use apt-get? [editline]22nd March 2013[/editline] Oh, and I believe the point was something like this: Fedora, Debian and friends come with a graphical installer. The Arch install begins by opening a command line. When you log in, you need to read a text file that tells you how to [I]partition your HDD on that terminal, mount the newly-created partitions and set-up a chroot environment[/I]. And it's not even using bash or dash which users migrating from other distros would be more likely to be familiar with! Installing Arch always involves knowing your way around a CLI fairly well.

[QUOTE=esalaka;40000598]And what comes to the unconfigurable interface, I take it you don't know how to use apt-get?[/QUOTE] I use apt-get on a lot of software that I can't get through the software center, I find it a little easy. All you need to do is copypaste the commands you find on the net into Terminal and you're ready.

[QUOTE=digigamer17;40000616]I use apt-get on a lot of software that I can't get through the software center, I find it a little easy. All you need to do is copypaste the commands you find on the net into Terminal and you're ready.[/QUOTE] That was supposed to be a sarcastic remark to Foxconn about how it's trivial to swap to whichever DE you want simply using the package manager. I don't think I ever learned to use the graphical one since I rarely installed new stuff after the initial installation back then. [editline]22nd March 2013[/editline] Ie. I wouldn't know how the software center works because I didn't really use it, and because I'm used to CLI package managers. I guess there's aptitude, too, and whatever...

[QUOTE=Foxconn;39999961]Ubuntu is complete shit that wouldn't even last three single days without updating and configuring it deeper than you should. Get Arch with [url=http://unity.xe-xe.org/]Unity repo[/url].[/QUOTE] Fuck no. Arch is a shit distro and Unity is a shit DE. digigamer, get [url=http://www.linuxmint.com]Mint[/url], and then use whatever it is Mint comes with (they're using Cinnamon aren't they?).

[QUOTE=lavacano;40000774]Fuck no. Arch is a shit distro and Unity is a shit DE. digigamer, get [url=http://www.linuxmint.com]Mint[/url], and then use whatever it is Mint comes with (they're using Cinnamon aren't they?).[/QUOTE] I think there's a choice between KDE or Cinnamon, but either those are fine since I know how they both work. I have a 64bit DVD install of Mint with me.