General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

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Nuh-uh, if you don't wanna deal with Arch, just go with Mint + XFCE or Cinnamon. Sorry for that pseudo-fanboyist Arch shitfest.

I usually go with Cinnamon.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/zQz6j8t.png[/img]

Because your typical Arch users are the Jehovah Witnesses of the Linux community [img]http://puu.sh/N9y4[/img]

Then what are Arch users? The Buddhists of the Linux community?

[QUOTE=Foxconn;40000397]Everything compared to Ubuntu, even Fedora and Debian, are like building your own Ikea.[/QUOTE] Not really. Debian is a very user friendly distro if you ignore the old packages. I mean, just the install process for arch is incredibly difficult to a Linux beginner compared to clicking through the graphical installer on Debian / Ubuntu. And you don't even get a usable system, you have to install a fuckton of software to even have something that resembles a real machine. This is not to take away from Arch, as it's a great distro if you're the typical basement dweller with way too much time on his hands, but for a real user it's an entirely different world. [QUOTE=Foxconn;40000030]Arch is not a DIY distro.[/QUOTE] Then I guess the ONLY distro you'll consider to be DIY is LFS, because Arch Linux is pretty much as DIY as it ever gets.

[QUOTE=supervoltage;40003300]Then what are Arch users? The Buddhists of the Linux community?[/QUOTE] That spot is already taken by the Gentoo users.

[QUOTE=gparent;40003414]This is not to take away from Arch, as it's a great distro if you're the typical basement dweller with way too much time on his hands, but for a real user it's an entirely different world.[/QUOTE] I think you meant "the general public" when you said "a real user". I'd argue that any user is a real user, unless they're imaginary.

I really didn't want to have to bother you guys, but I have a problem. My laptop is running steadily at 150-160 degrees when running chrome (or anything, for that matter) on Ubuntu 12.10. This feels way too hot, and I need to know if there's anything I can do about it or if I just need to install a lighter distro. Relevant specs: Dell Inspiron N5110 Intel Core i3-2330M Intel HD graphics 3000 [editline]22nd March 2013[/editline] Not sure if it's the CPU or the graphics (should be the CPU, I'm using cinnamon environment).

[QUOTE=sdwise;40004841]I really didn't want to have to bother you guys, but I have a problem. My laptop is running steadily at 150-160 degrees when running chrome (or anything, for that matter) on Ubuntu 12.10. This feels way too hot, and I need to know if there's anything I can do about it or if I just need to install a lighter distro. Relevant specs: Dell Inspiron N5110 Intel Core i3-2330M Intel HD graphics 3000 [editline]22nd March 2013[/editline] Not sure if it's the CPU or the graphics (should be the CPU, I'm using cinnamon environment).[/QUOTE] I hope you're talking about fahrenheit and not celsious.

Oh, hell yeah. Hovers around 65-70 degrees C. When there are no (foreground) programs running, it drops to about 50-55 C.

If those are internal temperatures, it's pretty normal.

It just felt like a hair dryer by the fan. Worries me.

I'm not a very kind person, and having my netbook on my sheet while I'm surfing around, watching movies and chatting, it hovers on currently 81C.

That actually makes me feel much better, thank you :)

Do note that if your computers internal temperatures, especially the GPU, gets up to about 90 or above, you should probably SERIOUSLY do something about it.

I installed an app with a power saver mode to cut it down a bit, but is only cut off a few degrees under load and around 10 idle.

It's pretty limited what can be done by userspace applications. The powersaving systems in the Linux kernel are currently... Problematic, at best. Hopefully it'll improve further in the future, but for now, there's not a lot you can do except try some power saving utilities.

So, I couldn't deal with all of the bloat on Ubuntu anymore, so what I did was I did a minimal install of it. As in, it's only got the most basic packages installed that are pretty much required for the system. Was that a good or bad idea?

[QUOTE=danielmm8888;40005279]So, I couldn't deal with all of the bloat on Ubuntu anymore, so what I did was I did a minimal install of it. As in, it's only got the most basic packages installed that are pretty much required for the system. Was that a good or bad idea?[/QUOTE] That's up to you to decide. I'd say it's a good idea, because you don't have to remove a whole lot of bloat that you'd never use. But then again, if I wanted a simple system, I probably wouldn't go with Ubuntu in the first place.

Thanks so much :)

[QUOTE=esalaka;40004333]I think you meant "the general public" when you said "a real user". I'd argue that any user is a real user, unless they're imaginary.[/QUOTE] ∀ user, user ∈ ℝ

[QUOTE=Foxconn;40002961]Because your typical Arch users are the Jehovah Witnesses of the Linux community [IMG]http://puu.sh/N9y4[/IMG][/QUOTE] It's funny because it's true :v: While xBSD users are acting like members of a small suicide cult. [editline]23rd March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=danielmm8888;40005279]So, I couldn't deal with all of the bloat on Ubuntu anymore, so what I did was I did a minimal install of it. As in, it's only got the most basic packages installed that are pretty much required for the system. Was that a good or bad idea?[/QUOTE] I went with Xubuntu instead, and stripped out the junk or found better replacements. 'tis good. [QUOTE=kaukassus;40003426]That spot is already taken by the Gentoo users.[/QUOTE] Well obviously you'd have time to find your inner ZEN with all that compiling :v:

For Zeus's sake. [IMG]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3483/lxdewtf.png[/IMG] How is this even possible? So much ram on IDLE, I remember it reaching 7GB, when even KDE consumes four times less.

[QUOTE=Foxconn;40022020]For Zeus's sake. [IMG]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3483/lxdewtf.png[/IMG] How is this even possible? So much ram on IDLE, I remember it reaching 7GB, when even KDE consumes four times less.[/QUOTE] Check htop to see what's using the memory up. Also remember that the kernel will keep a cache of frequently used files in memory if there is room; considering how much ram you have this cache could contain just about every file you access (I don't actually know if archey considers this cache 'used' though) so it wouldn't take long to have a large cache.

I love BleachBit, just done two runs (one with Root) Disk space recovered: 2.24GB Files deleted: 4106 Special operations: 15 Disk space recovered: 485.4MB Files deleted: 17307 Special operations: 4

So I'm completely new to linux ...Ubuntu?

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;40067550]So I'm completely new to linux...Ubuntu?[/QUOTE] Ubuntu or Mint. Those are probably the easiest.

[QUOTE=IpHa;40067660]Ubuntu or Mint. Those are probably the easiest.[/QUOTE] do they have file navigation kind of like windows explorer?