General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install

[vlad]

huh, that's weird. output plugins are only Bluetooth AVDTP & A2DP sink. can't write in the name box.

[Darkwater]

[QUOTE=nehkz;42078394]You don't actually watch that show, do you?[/QUOTE]

when it's on I do, there's really nothing else to watch around that time.

[editline]4th September 2013[/editline]

Btw any ideas why #! doesn't see the Windows partitions on my friend's laptop?

[t]http://i.imgur.com/ldQr15u.jpg[/t]

cfdisk does see them

[t]http://i.imgur.com/u2XJb1H.jpg[/t]

(screenshots made from a live session)

[Johnny on Flame]

Began installing Arch, what is the lightest DE that works decently?

[Darkwater]

What's actually the difference between a DE and a WM?

[FPtje]

AwesomeWM.

Takes some configuration though.

Edit: Fuck, read DE as WM. AwesomeWM is a window manager. Shit like GNOME, KDE and XFCE are DE's.
Of those I would choose XFCE.

Difference DE and WM: WM is just a window manager, very barebone. A DE (Desktop Environment) provides much more than just a window manager. DE's provide basic apps like calculators, launchers and shit like that.

[Comfy]

[QUOTE=Darkwater124;42079146]What's actually the difference between a DE and a WM?[/QUOTE]

A desktop environment is a Windows Manager in combination with applications to create a complete desktop expierience.

A window manager is just the program that controls the apearance and placement of the windows.

[editline]4th September 2013[/editline]

[url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_Manager[/url]

[editline]4th September 2013[/editline]

[url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Environment[/url]

[Johnny on Flame]

WMs are also welcome. I always forget that there's a difference between the two. :v:

[QUOTE=FPtje;42079179]AwesomeWM.

Takes some configuration though.

Edit: Fuck, read DE as WM. AwesomeWM is a window manager. Shit like GNOME, KDE and XFCE are DE's.
Of those I would choose XFCE.

Difference DE and WM: WM is just a window manager, very barebone. A DE (Desktop Environment) provides much more than just a window manager. DE's provide basic apps like calculators, launchers and shit like that.[/QUOTE]

I love me some tinkering, I'll have a look.

[danharibo]

[QUOTE=Darkwater124;42079146]What's actually the difference between a DE and a WM?[/QUOTE]

the DE is a the whole suite of software, usually also containing a Window Manager which handles positioning and window-level interactions with the user.

[MuThing]

[QUOTE=danharibo;42079398]the DE is a the whole suite of software, usually also containing a Window Manager which handles positioning and window-level interactions with the user.[/QUOTE]

So, the gnome shell could be considered a WM, but the entire gnome package is a DE?

[Comfy]

AFAIK in Gnome-shell/Gnome3 Mutter is the WM.

[editline]4th September 2013[/editline]

in Gnome2, it was metacity I think.

[Chizbang]

Haven't tried KDE for about 2 years now.... Think it's worth a look again?

[ManningQB18]

Alright, so I have this shitty (64 bit) netbook and all I want out of it is to have a decent computer that I can browse the web and make shitty java code on. Ubuntu is running slow on it, and I'd rather a distro with a bit more command line involvement (I'm planning on learning to be efficient with the command line). I'm currently trying Elementary OS, but I feel like even that is a bit overkill.

The only real things I need are: A basic GUI, good battery life, and Synaptics trackpad support. I tried putting Ubuntu minimal on the laptop, but the install refused to finish citing kernel issues repeatedly. I tried again with normal ubuntu, but it decided to install itself onto the flash drive instead of the HDD, despite me telling it otherwise. This netbook has no DVD drive, so anything will have to be compatible with a flash drive.

[danharibo]

Tried something lighter like Lubuntu or Xubuntu?

[ManningQB18]

[QUOTE=danharibo;42087182]Tried something lighter like Lubuntu or Xubuntu?[/QUOTE]

Haven't yet, no. What are some good lightweight minimal DE's for this sort of thing, because I noticed that Lubuntu looked like shit (imo) with its default DE, and I don't know alternative window managers.

--elementary os installation froze. I guess I'll try Xubuntu

[.Lain]

openbox and tint2

[editline]5th September 2013[/editline]

with gnome utils

[benbb]

[QUOTE=ManningQB18;42087149]I'd rather a distro with a bit more command line involvement (I'm planning on learning to be efficient with the command line). [/quote]

[URL="http://crunchbanglinux.org/"]Crunchbang[/URL], Arch [URL="http://www.archlinux.org/"]Linux[/URL]/[URL="http://archbang.org"]Bang[/URL]

[ManningQB18]

Are there any good flash drive versions of crunchbang? I'm encountering this bug with Universal USB Installer that freezes the installation at random points so that it can't complete the install. I'll take anything that isn't Universal USB installer at this point.

[benbb]

[QUOTE=ManningQB18;42087796]Are there any good flash drive versions of crunchbang? I'm encountering this bug with Universal USB Installer that freezes the installation at random points so that it can't complete the install. I'll take anything that isn't Universal USB installer at this point.[/QUOTE]

Download the normal ISO and use [URL="http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/"]Win32-diskimager[/URL]. It's like DD for Windows.

I had the same issue and it worked.

[Darkwater]

[QUOTE=Chizbang;42085421]Haven't tried KDE for about 2 years now.... Think it's worth a look again?[/QUOTE]

I use Kubuntu on my desktop, I really like it for general desktop use. (gaming, programming, surfing, chatting etc) There's a few glitches here and there but it's really customizable through guis.

[editline]5th September 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=ManningQB18;42087796]Are there any good flash drive versions of crunchbang? I'm encountering this bug with Universal USB Installer that freezes the installation at random points so that it can't complete the install. I'll take anything that isn't Universal USB installer at this point.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://linuxliveusb.com/[/url] worked for me

[Cowabanga]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/wGw6siG.png[/IMG]

dialog package is being a piece of shit, how do I fix this shit

[editline]6th September 2013[/editline]

I'm qqing irl thanks to this

e: I think I fixed it

[editline]6th September 2013[/editline]

oh god it's still broken help

[nikomo]

It's the encoding, switch to UTF-8 in PuTTY settings.

[A big fat ass]

I'm having troubles with Windows copying to a USB drive I have. It is definitely Windows, as I've tried it on multiple Windows computers and a friend's Mac and all issues are gone on his Mac. A friend suggested I put Ubuntu on a boot disc and try copying my files from there. I have not tried Ubuntu or Linux at all before today. Ubuntu is only recognize 2 out of my 3 hard drives.

I have three hard drives: one is just the C: drive which Windows is installed on connected via SATA, another is SATA which I partitioned into an E: and a P: drives, and I finally have an external USB W: drive which is the one that I've had filesystem issues with. The problem is that Ubuntu only recognizes my C: and W: drives, and my E: and P: drives contain the actual shit that I want to copy to my external USB. I believe my two SATA drives are NTFS and the USB external is FAT32, by the way. Google hasn't helped much. Would boot order in the BIOS be important here? I wouldn't think it would be, but I had to set my DVD drive to be first boot order so that it could launch Ubuntu's live DVD and I'm not sure if I had set my E: hard drive to be below it or something.

I'm back on Windows right now and my E: and P: drives still show up so I'm assuming it's something up with Ubuntu. It's version 13.04 64 bit off the live/'try before you install' DVD and is not installed. I wouldn't think the live DVD version being a problem considering it recognizes my other hard drives. You guys are much smarter than me when it comes to this stuff.

[editline]7th September 2013[/editline]

On an unrelated note, for the time that I tried Ubuntu, it's real sleek.

[Cowabanga]

[QUOTE=nikomo;42102875]It's the encoding, switch to UTF-8 in PuTTY settings.[/QUOTE]

It [I]is[/I] on UTF-8 though.

[esalaka]

[QUOTE=Cowabanga;42106660]It [I]is[/I] on UTF-8 though.[/QUOTE]

Your TERM variable is wrong.

Basically, there's some terminfos that work kinda well with PuTTY and others that work less well and I have no idea which of them actually supports line-drawing characters.

If you want to fix this quickly, run your program inside screen. That always works.

[shodan]

I've pretty much tried everything so I might be better of asking in here.
I'm trying to install owncloud on a nginx server but it just gets stuck on "Upgrading filesystem cache..."
Also It gives me this error message in the owncloud error log:

Warning     PHP     filesize(): stat failed for /srv/www/Cloud.BasBieling.com/public_html/owncloud/data/Mega/files/New Text Document.txt at /srv/www/Cloud.BasBieling.com/public_html/owncloud/lib/files/storage/local.php#74     2013-09-06T21:21:00+00:00
Warning     search_lucene     failed to extract meta information for /Mega/files/New Text Document.txt: unable to determine file format     2013-09-06T21:23:22+00:00

The nginx site config:

# owncloud
server {
  listen 80;
  server_name Cloud.BasBieling.com;
  rewrite ^ https://$server_name$request_uri? permanent;  # enforce https
}

# owncloud (ssl/tls)
server {
  listen 443 ssl;
  server_name Cloud.BasBieling.com;
  ssl_certificate /etc/nginx/ssl/server.crt;
  ssl_certificate_key /etc/nginx/ssl/server.key;
  root /srv/www/Cloud.BasBieling.com/public_html;
  index index.php;
  client_max_body_size 20000M; # set maximum upload size

  # deny direct access
  location ~ ^/(data|config|\.ht|db_structure\.xml|README) {
    deny all;
  }

  # default try order
  location / {
    try_files $uri $uri/ @webdav;
  }

  # owncloud WebDAV
  location @webdav {
    fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+\.php)(/.*)$;
    fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000;
    fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME $document_root$fastcgi_script_name;
    fastcgi_param HTTPS on;
    include fastcgi_params;
  }

  # enable php
  location ~ \.php$ {
    fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:9000;
    fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME $document_root$fastcgi_script_name;
    fastcgi_param HTTPS on;
    include fastcgi_params;
  }
}

[stringy]

[QUOTE=A big fat ass;42104758]I'm having troubles with Windows copying to a USB drive I have. It is definitely Windows, as I've tried it on multiple Windows computers and a friend's Mac and all issues are gone on his Mac. A friend suggested I put Ubuntu on a boot disc and try copying my files from there. I have not tried Ubuntu or Linux at all before today. Ubuntu is only recognize 2 out of my 3 hard drives.

I have three hard drives: one is just the C: drive which Windows is installed on connected via SATA, another is SATA which I partitioned into an E: and a P: drives, and I finally have an external USB W: drive which is the one that I've had filesystem issues with. The problem is that Ubuntu only recognizes my C: and W: drives, and my E: and P: drives contain the actual shit that I want to copy to my external USB. I believe my two SATA drives are NTFS and the USB external is FAT32, by the way. Google hasn't helped much. Would boot order in the BIOS be important here? I wouldn't think it would be, but I had to set my DVD drive to be first boot order so that it could launch Ubuntu's live DVD and I'm not sure if I had set my E: hard drive to be below it or something.

I'm back on Windows right now and my E: and P: drives still show up so I'm assuming it's something up with Ubuntu. It's version 13.04 64 bit off the live/'try before you install' DVD and is not installed. I wouldn't think the live DVD version being a problem considering it recognizes my other hard drives. You guys are much smarter than me when it comes to this stuff.

[editline]7th September 2013[/editline]

On an unrelated note, for the time that I tried Ubuntu, it's real sleek.[/QUOTE]

This does sound odd, as my Ubuntu installation on my new laptop even automounted drives for windows UEFI bootcode and the windows recovery partition.

I would recommend you install lsscsi,

sudo apt-get install lsscsi

which will list devices like ATA and SATA drives as well as useful information like their location in the device filesystem.

$ lsscsi
[0:0:0:0]    disk    ATA      Hitachi HTS72505 PC4O  /dev/sda
...
$ ls /dev/sda*
/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3

In this case there is an ATA Hitachi drive represented by the file /dev/sda with 3 partitions, /dev/sda[1-3].

You can mount the partitions using the mount command, which should auto-recognize ntfs. If, for example, you recognize drive sda and partition 2 as being your E: drive, you might do this.

mkdir /mnt/e_drive/
mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/e_drive/
ls /mnt/e_drive/

Sorry if this is too complicated, but it is as straight forward as it gets when GUI tools fail.

[Stonecycle]

cdrdao isn't working like as I was told to rip a TOC.

# cdrdao read-cd --datafile image.bin --driver generic-mmc:0x20000 --device /dev/sg0 --read-raw image.toc

Cdrdao version 1.2.3 - (C) Andreas Mueller <[e-mail]>
/dev/sg0: ATA TOSHIBA MQ01ABD0	Rev: AX00
Using driver: Generic SCSI-3/MMC - Version 2.0 (options 0x20000)

Reading toc and track data...
ERROR: Cannot read disk toc.

/dev/cdrom's busy for some reason so I can't use that. Now I'm just stuck.

[Mudbone]

Been using ubuntu (xbuntu de) for 2 months now and have only booted back into windows probally twice. I'm loving that things can be easilly found and done in the termnial. Ive seen a few people badmouthing apt-get as a package manager. Just woundering what's the problem with it. Is there something better I should be learning?

[ipha]

[QUOTE=Mudbone;42111425]Been using ubuntu (xbuntu de) for 2 months now and have only booted back into windows probally twice. I'm loving that things can be easilly found and done in the termnial. Ive seen a few people badmouthing apt-get as a package manager. Just woundering what's the problem with it. Is there something better I should be learning?[/QUOTE]

There's nothing wrong with apt, it's just a bit slower than others.

[danharibo]

[QUOTE=Mudbone;42111425]Been using ubuntu (xbuntu de) for 2 months now and have only booted back into windows probally twice. I'm loving that things can be easilly found and done in the termnial. Ive seen a few people badmouthing apt-get as a package manager. Just woundering what's the problem with it. Is there something better I should be learning?[/QUOTE]

People just like to say it's a slower than pacman or Yum, but really it's quite good and there's nothing more than minor inconveniences (like what on earth is "apt-get install -f" about..).

[editline]7th September 2013[/editline]

Then again pacman has more than it's fair share of arcane incantations.