General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install

[Anderen2]

[QUOTE=kaukassus;42293829]I sometimes do for several occasions, and anonymous FTP stuff.

(for friends to upload shit for gameservers)[/QUOTE]

You can upload stuff with SFTP/SCP aswell. Most FTP clients (ex. FileZilla, WinSCP, etc) supports SFTP. If you want anonymous upload (Which is kindof an safety risk, but okay), you could just create an unprivileged "anonymous" user on your server, and set his shell to /bin/false in /etc/passwd to prevent him using SSH aswell.

[awh]

[QUOTE=Anderen2;42294176]You can upload stuff with SFTP/SCP aswell. Most FTP clients (ex. FileZilla, WinSCP, etc) supports SFTP. If you want anonymous upload (Which is kindof an safety risk, but okay), you could just create an unprivileged "anonymous" user on your server, and set his shell to /bin/false in /etc/passwd to prevent him using SSH aswell.[/QUOTE]

You should also use something like this in sshd_config:

Match User anonymous
  ForceCommand internal-sftp
  AllowTcpForwardng no

(you might also want to chroot them with ChrootDirectory /home/%u)

[Comfy]

[QUOTE=Anderen2;42294176]You can upload stuff with SFTP/SCP aswell. Most FTP clients (ex. FileZilla, WinSCP, etc) supports SFTP. If you want anonymous upload (Which is kindof an safety risk, but okay), you could just create an unprivileged "anonymous" user on your server, and set his shell to /bin/false in /etc/passwd to prevent him using SSH aswell.[/QUOTE]

I know, I use Sftp aswell. (but none of my friends will have access to it), because I don't trust them. Thats why I have FTP with virtual users.

[editline]24th September 2013[/editline]

i currently resort to a form of virtual users in a chrooted environment.

[tark!]

Holy hell why did no-one tell me the Archlinux devs were such massive pretentious snobs? Fuck Arch I'll use some other distro that isn't made by, and apparently to them for, complete assholes.

[supervoltage]

I don't get it, what did the devs do/say?

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=Tark;42301348]Holy hell why did no-one tell me the Archlinux devs were such massive pretentious snobs? Fuck Arch I'll use some other distro that isn't made by, and apparently to them for, complete assholes.[/QUOTE]

What is your issue exactly with the Arch devs? I don't find them to be exactly the smartest people in the world either, I mean the latest systemd update seems to have broken my skype installation, but there's always ignite(runit), and eudev. I guess.

[naelstrof]

I asked Tark on steam and he gave me this: [url]https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141521[/url]
He told me all he wants to do is make an account to ask why the live-cd kernel panics whenever he tries to pacstrap, but he can't because you need Arch Linux running in order to make an account.

[shodan]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;42301547]{...} you need Arch Linux running in order to make an account.[/QUOTE]

Whoa wait what!?
Why!?

That doesn't make any sense. Just imagine you have to have the steam overlay browser on gmod running in order to make an account here! (kinda)

[ipha]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;42301547]I asked Tark on steam and he gave me this: [url]https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141521[/url]
He told me all he wants to do is make an account to ask why the live-cd kernel panics whenever he tries to pacstrap, but he can't because you need Arch Linux running in order to make an account.[/QUOTE]

It may not be the best solution, but you have to admit it does keep spammers off the forum.

And it doesn't have to be arch, any distro will do or maybe even cygwin.

[rilez]

A really neat icon pack just got posted up on deviantart if anyone would like it:

[url]http://bokehlicia.deviantart.com/#/art/Pacifica-Icons-402508559?hf=1[/url]

[img]http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/267/d/8/pacifica_icons_by_bokehlicia-d6nn5lb.png[/img]

[nikomo]

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;42301551]Whoa wait what!?
Why!?

That doesn't make any sense. Just imagine you have to have the steam overlay browser on gmod running in order to make an account here! (kinda)[/QUOTE]

You don't need Arch Linux running in order to answer that, it'll run on literally any Linux system.
uname just prints "Linux" without any options set, so it's not in any way kernel-version dependant, or Arch-dependant.

[Skanic]

You guys don't talk about SteamOs?

[Comfy]

[QUOTE=Skanic;42303194]You guys don't talk about SteamOs?[/QUOTE]

I'm gonna use SteamOS on my HTPC once it comes out. Sounds like a solid system.

I guess we don't really talk about it yet, because there aren't really much informations known yet. (like if it runs on wayland / mir(why)).

[Darkwater]

I wonder how game streaming will work and if it's gonna be playable with really demanding games.

[TheCreeper]

-snip-

[vlad]

having a weird issue here! I installed GDM3 settings package to customize GDM a little, and after selecting which themes I want and so on, I'm now unable to log in! I can't login with the root account either. when I press "log in" it just hangs there doing nothing at all. no errors, just hangs there. nothing freezes though and I can cancel the log in attempt. I can log in with another tty so there's nothing wrong with my accounts I suppose?

need help fast, need access to my PC!

[tark!]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;42301547]I asked Tark on steam and he gave me this: [url]https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=141521[/url]
He told me all he wants to do is make an account to ask why the live-cd kernel panics whenever he tries to pacstrap, but he can't because you need Arch Linux running in order to make an account.[/QUOTE]

Wasn't the only problem I have with them personally, their forums are in general completely contradictory to what they say they stand for in the wiki. The mods act like asshats, and the users act like asshats, and anyone who is new even just to arch is left in the dust because "arch isn't for noobs".

edit:
I really shouldn't have said 'devs' because that's untrue. The developers themselves seem to be perfectly awesome people, or atleast the people who wrote the Wiki are. The only problem is their forums which are essentially the only place to really ask for help if a solution hasn't already been put up somewhere else.

edit:
Actually, to be perfectly honest that entire post was really uncalled for and off-handed. I apologize, was tired and frustrated but I'll still try to get Arch running because hell I've been wanting to use it for years.

[naelstrof]

[QUOTE=PredGD;42304306]having a weird issue here! I installed GDM3 settings package to customize GDM a little, and after selecting which themes I want and so on, I'm now unable to log in! I can't login with the root account either. when I press "log in" it just hangs there doing nothing at all. no errors, just hangs there. nothing freezes though and I can cancel the log in attempt. I can log in with another tty so there's nothing wrong with my accounts I suppose?

need help fast, need access to my PC![/QUOTE]

I couldn't get gdm working either. Open ~/.xinitrc and put in "exec *-session" where * is your desktop evironment (ex. xfce4-session, gnome-session, etc). Then just run startx as a normal user. It'll dump you in your desktop.

[vlad]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;42305117]I couldn't get gdm working either. Open ~/.xinitrc and put in "exec *-session" where * is your desktop evironment (ex. xfce4-session, gnome-session, etc). Then just run startx as a normal user. It'll dump you in your desktop.[/QUOTE]

thank you, got back into gnome by doing that. no clue why this is happening now, but I can't unlock my keyring. not sure if that was related to my GDM issue. anyway, I need to get into amdcccle to adjust some settings but the keyring is locked and won't open using the password I set. is it possible to purge the keyring or change the password?

[editline]25th September 2013[/editline]

looks like gnome won't accept my password at all. I can still create a root terminal and I can still run commands using sudo but all graphical stuff which involves a password doesn't work.

[lavacano]

I'm probably banned from #archlinux on Freenode because I was having trouble getting netctl to use WEP the one time the Arch LiveCD actually decided to not kernel panic on boot (incidentally the solution was to prefix the key with \", what the flying fuck is that shit). And I was actually the most civil user there.

I'm not going back in there anyway unless I become Freenode staff. Maybe a /kill or G-line will knock their shitrag asses back into line.

[shodan]

How about switching to a distro that doesn't take weeks to set up

[vlad]

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;42305637]How about switching to a distro that doesn't take weeks to set up[/QUOTE]

but setting it up is part of the fun

[Comfy]

[QUOTE=PredGD;42305649]but setting it up is part of the fun[/QUOTE]

Setting up Archlinux is a valuable expierience, especially for those who wish to learn more about GNU/Linux, But I wouldn't really use it as my main operating system.

Archlinux isn't really even that hard to setup, but this is coming from a guy who has done tons of GNU/Linux installations for a wide range of distros.

[lavacano]

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;42305637]How about switching to a distro that doesn't take weeks to set up[/QUOTE]

if it takes you weeks to set up a distro, even one as "non-wizardy" as arch or gentoo, you're doing something seriously wrong

[Comfy]

The good thing about Archlinux and Gentoo is the huge amount of Documentation both of those distros have.

Even if you are not an user of Arch or Gentoo, you can still benefit from it, since most of the stuff there can be brought over to other distros aswell.

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=PredGD;42305649]but setting it up is part of the fun[/QUOTE]

Sadomasochism.

[naelstrof]

[QUOTE=PredGD;42305249]thank you, got back into gnome by doing that. no clue why this is happening now, but I can't unlock my keyring. not sure if that was related to my GDM issue. anyway, I need to get into amdcccle to adjust some settings but the keyring is locked and won't open using the password I set. is it possible to purge the keyring or change the password?

[editline]25th September 2013[/editline]

looks like gnome won't accept my password at all. I can still create a root terminal and I can still run commands using sudo but all graphical stuff which involves a password doesn't work.[/QUOTE]

Just uninstall gnome-keyring. It's broken on Arch Linux currently.

I made a post about it here: [url]https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=169320[/url]

[ichiman94]

I can't understand how you can't setup Arch Linux. It sure takes some tries, and it doesn't come with magic that other distros have, but I may just have a generic pc #95235 which doesn't need any special treatment. Supporting people with special hardware is a thing that the people on IRC and forums should help anyone, but normally, you shouldn't have any problem if you can read the wiki. Also, you get small disk usage, probably faster responding times and everything set up as You wanted. Arch is great for that stuff, but if you don't know what you are doing then first try it out on a virtual machine before blowing up the partitions. Or just install a generic 'buntu variant which is targetted at users with little to zero knowledge of linux. I hope drivers won't be an issue with future releases, but there are lots of legacy and new stuff that are not implemented or maintained at all. With new and new users coming to linux, this will be a more huge demand, and we can hope that hardware manufacturers will take part in contributing and fixing incomplete drivers. But it's just hope, nothing can be sure.

After all, I have just repeated what others have said, I'm late as usual.

[FPtje]

[QUOTE=Van-man;42306030]Sadomasochism.[/QUOTE]

Not really. While it can be frustrating at times, setting up Arch once or twice in your life is a very valuable experience. You learn a lot from it. Finishing an Arch installation means you applied problem solving skills. I've never been able to install Arch by only following the wiki. There have always been unexpected issues (wifi drivers etc., you know the deal) that I had to solve. I learnt a lot from it.

That said, Arch is annoying and breaks all the time and I'm perfectly satisfied with the Ubuntu installation I'm running. I love being able to modify pretty much anything while not being [i]forced[/i] to tinker with it until it works. It works out of the box, and I can always mess around with it if I want to.

[naelstrof]

I was actually delightfully surprised with Arch Linux yesterday. Normally everything that deviates from the norm (printing, changing audio devices, changing video drivers, etc) requires a ton of setup and configuration changes.

but when I was asked in class to demonstrate some code I wrote, I was able to just walk right up, plug in the video cable, and X automatically and immediately detected the projector and set it up. I was capable of dragging over the code to the projector and explained it without too much trouble.

Then my excitement was killed with the suddenness of a jack-in-a-box when I realized X froze. (It has been doing this a lot lately, even on my desktop system) I had to pull up a VT and restart X during the demonstration, it took less than 20 seconds but I was still embarrassed because I had to explain to them why I just suddenly stopped demonstrating the code.
When X came back, the mouse cursor was invisible for no reason, but I knew GNOME keyboard binds enough to open the text file from terminal, move my window over, maximize it, then I just used vim binds to highlight code I was explaining.

You can say a lot of people thought I was incredibly nerdy then, since most of the students don't even know Linux exists. And I was pulling up terminals and clickity clacking to nervously highlight and show things.