General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=Megaman1811;42521286]My laptop literally just shit on its registry and windows was basically gone. I though Linux would be a temp thing but I am really falling in love with it. the only problems I have would be my PS3 controller not acting like an Xbox 360 controller and the fact that Unity acts weird sometimes[/QUOTE] Windows shit all over me when it came to my WiFi I even tried a usb WiFi dogle and nothing worked when I switched to Linux it worked pefectly.

[QUOTE=IpHa;42517553]I'm so glad the wobbly window fad is over.[/QUOTE] Wonderful times, otherwise - Compiz/Beryl wheel-warring, glorying at outrageously sharp edges and corners while workspace-switching, the feeling that we could all just unite behind Ubuntu and GNOME, Ubuntu Tweaks, and shitty Aero clones were all I needed back then. I can't wait for our combined aesthetic sense to switch back to ornament, volume, and excess. Daddy needs his graphics cards, and they in turn need something to spur driver development.

[QUOTE=danharibo;42521293]What do you mean about your PS3 controller?[/QUOTE] There is a tool called motioninjoy for windows. It allows a Dualshock 3 to emulate a 360 pad. I can't find a good replacement for ubuntu

I still remember ubuntu 10.04 with gnome2, docky, conky and emerald. All that rice. Ahh good times. I may go back on it via a VM and recreate the ricer desktops I used to do. [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] Also, wobbly windows were the shit back then.

[QUOTE=kaukassus;42521748]I still remember ubuntu 10.04 with gnome2, docky, conky and emerald. All that rice. Ahh good times. I may go back on it via a VM and recreate the ricer desktops I used to do. [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] Also, wobbly windows were the shit back then.[/QUOTE] In the KDE kwin settings someplace you can still enable things like closing Windows burns them down, and Wobbly windows.

Don't forget that Linux is just [i]fun[/i]. I would think the novelty would wear off after a year or so, but I still just enjoy knowing (or being at liberty to learn) [i]literally anything[/i] I want about how my PC works at just about any level of abstraction from userspace applications to kernel modules, to the kernel itself, etc. There aren't any black boxes anywhere (save few-and-far-between proprietary applications and modules), as there are in Windows, where you are only at liberty to know how an interface works. If you just want a PC to generate/render document markup then the novelty would probably wear off a lot quicker.

I mostly use Linux on servers since every time I want to install it on a computer for regular desktop use, I end up having driver issues. However, it works great on servers since I can create a bunch of Linux VMs and not have to worry about licencing. It's also great since there's very little overhead and usually rock solid.

[QUOTE=Megaman1811;42521713]There is a tool called motioninjoy for windows. It allows a Dualshock 3 to emulate a 360 pad. I can't find a good replacement for ubuntu[/QUOTE] You shouldn't need one? Linux doesn't do stupid shit like segregating XInput from DirectInput and whatever else. Every single controller is interfaced with in exactly the same way. People don't use tools to make the PS3 controller look like a 360 controller, because as far as everything else is concerned there is no difference. [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] Anyway, the main reasons I use Linux: * I've never had Linux randomly provide subpar performance because it didn't feel like doing something. Meanwhile, I've had to put up with Windows computers with top of the line hardware (GTX 680, i7, whole nine yards) drop to 20 FPS in L4D2 for no reason other than "i dont wanna". * If I want Linux to do something, I can make it do something. I might have to roll my own solution sometimes, but it never takes more than maybe 5 minutes of research to get the information I need, and I don't have to spend a dime. Whereas in Windows, if I want it to do something, I either have to spend some stupid amount of money to Microsoft to roll my own solution (because apparently compilers other than Visual Studio don't work), or spend hours on the Internet and hope to fuck someone released a program that works even similarly to how I want (and those usually cost anywhere from $5 to $50).

[QUOTE=kaukassus;42517700]* No known backdoors.[/QUOTE] There has been some discussion on the mailing lists lately that rRand maybe contains a backdoor (psuedo random) [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] It's used for encryption etc btw

I want to try a new distro. Anyone know of some interesting new ones?

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;42523163]There has been some discussion on the mailing lists lately that rRand maybe contains a backdoor (psuedo random) [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] It's used for encryption etc btw[/QUOTE] Yeah, but iirc the entire thing is just used as a pool, which means that even if there WERE a backdoor in any one of the random generators, it would be ruined by the other generators.

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;42523163]There has been some discussion on the mailing lists lately that rRand maybe contains a backdoor (psuedo random) [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] It's used for encryption etc btw[/QUOTE] I am aware of it, as there has been lots of talk on r/netsec when it first surfaced it. But the potential backdoor dosen't matter, because the backdoor is in Intels Hardware Random Generator. The Linux kernel uses the HW Rand Generator if it's available, to further strenghten the entropy of the pool. So if the HW Rand Generator is backdoored to intentionally output low entropy, it doesen't weaken the pool, because it would only add to it, but not lower the entropy count. [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] Fucking hell I got ninjad again.

Is GNOME under Wayland functional yet?

[QUOTE=nehkz;42523425]I want to try a new distro. Anyone know of some interesting new ones?[/QUOTE] Well what have you tried? Also if you want something interesting [URL="http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/"]Hannh Montana Linux[/URL]

[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;42523905]Well what have you tried? Also if you want something interesting [URL="http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/"]Hannh Montana Linux[/URL][/QUOTE] [url]http://sourceforge.net/projects/rebeccablackos/[/url] It even uses wayland.

Oh for fuck sake guys. I'm being serious.

[QUOTE=nehkz;42524092]Oh for fuck sake guys. I'm being serious.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;42523905]Well what have you tried? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=nehkz;42524092]Oh for fuck sake guys. I'm being serious.[/QUOTE] I'll ask again what have you used?

[QUOTE=nehkz;42523425]I want to try a new distro. Anyone know of some interesting new ones?[/QUOTE] Fedora is nice. also [QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;42524287]I'll ask again what have you used?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=nehkz;42523425]I want to try a new distro. Anyone know of some interesting new ones?[/QUOTE] If you are new to Linux, start with a flavor of Ubuntu. If you like it and want to spread out, try something else like Manjaro or Elementary

I'm not new to Linux. I've tried Ubuntu, Debian, #!, Arch and Fedora. I was just looking for something new.

You've tried the majority of the distributions. Do none of them do what you like?

Yes, they do. I would like to try something new though. Maybe I should try BSD or something.

[QUOTE=nehkz;42525815]Yes, they do. I would like to try something new though. Maybe I should try BSD or something.[/QUOTE] How about you try it in vm first.

[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;42526302]How about you try it in vm first.[/QUOTE] No because then he will miss out on all the beautiful manual hardware configuration you have to do when you install it on something that isn't a server.

[QUOTE=kaukassus;42523595]But the potential backdoor dosen't matter, because the backdoor is in Intels Hardware Random Generator. The Linux kernel uses the HW Rand Generator if it's available, to further strenghten the entropy of the pool. So if the HW Rand Generator is backdoored to intentionally output low entropy, it doesen't weaken the pool, because it would only add to it, but not lower the entropy count.[/QUOTE] Which is all fine and dandy, until you realize that the CPU is basically just a magical black box of things you don't actually have access to. The input from the generator is just XOR'd with the pool, meaning that the CPU can read the state of pool and generate biased output to generate a biased pool. You could send a specific magic packet to the NIC, that gets handled by the CPU, that triggers a condition somewhere, you'd only compromise the few systems you need access to, not all the systems that security researchers are looking at. However, all of that is harder to implement than anyone thinks. But the capability is there.

[QUOTE=Lyoko774;42523852]Is GNOME under Wayland functional yet?[/QUOTE] [url=https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/]Very recently, but under GNOME 3.10.[/url] Or are you saying you've tried this and it was atrocious? [editline]X[/editline] I know that Wayland's supposed to be the new alternative (and hopefully replacement) for X.org, but when it comes to things like that, do there have to be new drivers to support it?' [editline]e[/editline] Turns out there's adoption for it with Mesa, but will it cause the constant freezing with Sandy Bridge graphics?

[QUOTE=Stonecycle;42527156][url=https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/]Very recently, but under GNOME 3.10.[/url] Or are you saying you've tried this and it was atrocious? [editline]X[/editline] I know that Wayland's supposed to be the new alternative (and hopefully replacement) for X.org, but when it comes to things like that, do there have to be new drivers to support it?' [editline]e[/editline] Turns out there's adoption for it with Mesa, but will it cause the constant freezing with Sandy Bridge graphics?[/QUOTE] The proprietary drivers will have to add support for EGL. nVidia has already started discussing how it should be implemented.

[QUOTE=nehkz;42525754]I'm not new to Linux. I've tried Ubuntu, Debian, #!, Arch and Fedora. I was just looking for something new.[/QUOTE] There's always Gentoo.

[QUOTE=Venom Mk III;42526781]No because then he will miss out on all the beautiful manual hardware configuration you have to do when you install it on something that isn't a server.[/QUOTE] Well there's always PCbsd which gives you the choice between desktop and server when you install. It even has a default graphical installer.