General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install

[shodan]

[QUOTE=Venom Mk III;42651014]Define "every up to date distro" lol. All the implementations are varied and I can almost guarantee you that Ubuntu's implementation of EFI certs is the best and will have the least problems for this guy trying to try linux for the first time. (For the record I have had cases where nothing but Ubuntu would install on the computer simply because Fedora and Linux Mint didn't like the EFI bios.)[/QUOTE]

[url=https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EFI]Fedora[/url]
[url=https://wiki.debian.org/EFIStub]Debian[/url]
[url=https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/EFI_stub_kernel]Gentoo (install it)[/url]
[url=https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UEFI_Bootloaders]Arch Linux[/url]
Etc etc etc

Some distros require you to do some of the work others don't

[josm]

Okay, so, I spent hours yesterday trying to figure out why this won't work.

I try and install Linux to either my SSD or my HDD, then reboot, it then gives the the error "Could not load operating system".

Is there something I'm doing wrong during the installation process? or?

[diwako]

Alright so basically for an along side installation for Ubuntu and windows 8.1, I just grab either 12.04 LTS or 13.10 and select along side and follow the instructions from the Ubuntu side? Or do I need to do something else?

[Jivel1]

[QUOTE=nehkz;42651180]Okay, so, I spend hours yesterday trying to figure out why this won't work.

I try and install Linux to either my SSD or my HDD, then reboot, it then gives the the error "Could not load operating system".

Is there something I'm doing wrong during the installation process? or?[/QUOTE]

What distribution are you trying to install?

[josm]

[QUOTE=Jivel1;42651211]What distribution are you trying to install?[/QUOTE]

Xubuntu at first, then Manjaro.

[diwako]

Installed ubuntu know after disabling UEFI and fast boot. Now on restart it boots straight to window8.1...

[vlad]

is compiz dead? from what I gathered from their forum and wiki it seems pretty abandoned.

[MetricMoose]

[QUOTE=diwako;42652081]Installed ubuntu know after disabling UEFI and fast boot. Now on restart it boots straight to window8.1...[/QUOTE]

[url]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair[/url]

[diwako]

[QUOTE=benjgvps;42652165][url]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair[/url][/QUOTE]

done, works now. Can you customize the order of the OSes displayed?

[vlad]

uhmm, if I want to change my display settings (using compiz + a few other apps instead of a DE), how do I do that? install for example gnome settings and configure the shit there or is there something I do with compiz? couldn't find any settings for display and resolution in compiz

[esalaka]

[QUOTE=PredGD;42652142]is compiz dead? from what I gathered from their forum and wiki it seems pretty abandoned.[/QUOTE]

The head dev was hired by Canonical at some point (and he's already resigned after that as well); the newer versions are [url=https://launchpad.net/compiz]on Launchpad[/url]. Dunno if it's a completely made-for-Ubuntu thing nowadays, though. That'd explain the abandonment of all the old websites.

[naelstrof]

[QUOTE=PredGD;42652691]uhmm, if I want to change my display settings (using compiz + a few other apps instead of a DE), how do I do that? install for example gnome settings and configure the shit there or is there something I do with compiz? couldn't find any settings for display and resolution in compiz[/QUOTE]

Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change display settings. If you're using nvidia you can usually just run nvidia-xconfig to have it automatically generate an xorg.conf for you.

X is supposed to auto-detect your resolution though, if you already have an xorg.conf you could try simply removing it first. Then try making your own.

[editline]26th October 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=diwako;42652258]done, works now. Can you customize the order of the OSes displayed?[/QUOTE]

Yes you can, but it depends on how you're booting. You could be boothing through window's bootloader, legacy grub, grub, or perhaps some crazy efi boot manager like refind.

They all have their own configuration options, except for window's bootloader.
Once you figure out which one you're using we can help you with the configuration of it.

[XxThreedogxX]

[QUOTE=diwako;42652258]done, works now. Can you customize the order of the OSes displayed?[/QUOTE]

[video=youtube;UDh0-lWBVdo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDh0-lWBVdo[/video]

[editline]26th October 2013[/editline]

Not a fan of her but I found this useful.

[Banandana]

[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;42652926][video=youtube;UDh0-lWBVdo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDh0-lWBVdo[/video]

[editline]26th October 2013[/editline]

Not a fan of her but I found this useful.[/QUOTE]

Not gonna lie, that thumbnail picture of her looks pretty damn creepy.

[vlad]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;42652802]Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change display settings. If you're using nvidia you can usually just run nvidia-xconfig to have it automatically generate an xorg.conf for you.

X is supposed to auto-detect your resolution though, if you already have an xorg.conf you could try simply removing it first. Then try making your own.

[/QUOTE]

uhh, how do I make X do the auto-detect thing again? I deleted xorg.conf and now, well, nothing works. :v:

[diwako]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;42652802]Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change display settings. If you're using nvidia you can usually just run nvidia-xconfig to have it automatically generate an xorg.conf for you.

X is supposed to auto-detect your resolution though, if you already have an xorg.conf you could try simply removing it first. Then try making your own.

[editline]26th October 2013[/editline]

Yes you can, but it depends on how you're booting. You could be boothing through window's bootloader, legacy grub, grub, or perhaps some crazy efi boot manager like refind.

They all have their own configuration options, except for window's bootloader.
Once you figure out which one you're using we can help you with the configuration of it.[/QUOTE]

GNU GRUB v1.99-21ubuntu3.10

[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;42652926][video=youtube;UDh0-lWBVdo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDh0-lWBVdo[/video]

[editline]26th October 2013[/editline]

Not a fan of her but I found this useful.[/QUOTE]

Will check that out.

[naelstrof]

[QUOTE=PredGD;42653054]uhh, how do I make X do the auto-detect thing again? I deleted xorg.conf and now, well, nothing works. :v:[/QUOTE]

That's what you're supposed to do, depending on your distro you could have an outdated X which has poor auto-detection.

What videocard do you have? You're going to need to manually configure X.

[vlad]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;42653878]That's what you're supposed to do, depending on your distro you could have an outdated X which has poor auto-detection.

What videocard do you have? You're going to need to manually configure X.[/QUOTE]

AMD 6850 XFX, currently I have the open source ATI drivers installed. I use arch and X is up to date.

[vlad]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/XAGdYI8.png[/t]

a day worth of struggle and I finally got things the way I wanted them to be, worth it

[naelstrof]

Ah sorry, I should've just contacted you on Steam. I'm glad you got it working on your own!

[Soleeedus]

gparted won't let me resize my partition, it's telling me to run chkdsk /f and reboot twice

which I've done already

[editline]26th October 2013[/editline]

same issue with linux mint

[XxThreedogxX]

I've been thinking of switching back to Manjaro again.

[naelstrof]

[QUOTE=Soleeedus;42657291]gparted won't let me resize my partition, it's telling me to run chkdsk /f and reboot twice

which I've done already

[editline]26th October 2013[/editline]

same issue with linux mint[/QUOTE]

Are you trying to resize a partition while it's mounted? Isn't chkdsk a windows program? Do you mean fsck?
Are you resizing a windows partition? If so try using ntfsfix to fix filesystem problems.

[larikang]

[QUOTE=nehkz;42651180]Okay, so, I spent hours yesterday trying to figure out why this won't work.

I try and install Linux to either my SSD or my HDD, then reboot, it then gives the the error "Could not load operating system".

Is there something I'm doing wrong during the installation process? or?[/QUOTE]
That sounds like the message you would get when you don't install a bootloader. That shouldn't be a big deal though. You can probably boot up the installation media again and complete that step.

[editline]26th October 2013[/editline]

Also, I had another "I love Arch!" moment today. Did a full upgrade this morning and UGH my game wouldn't compile anymore due to link errors with SDL2_image.

I rolled back using pacman's cache, checked the repositories and saw that SDL2_image was flagged out of date yesterday. Did another full upgrade just now and everything's good again. Minor inconvenience? Yes. But that's a [i]two day[/i] lag from upstream. Totally worth it.

[Soleeedus]

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;42658159]Are you trying to resize a partition while it's mounted? Isn't chkdsk a windows program? Do you mean fsck?
Are you resizing a windows partition? If so try using ntfsfix to fix filesystem problems.[/QUOTE]
chkdsk is a windows function, yes

but it's still telling me to do that when I try resizing my partition

[naelstrof]

Please answer the rest of the questions please. You somehow happened to answer the only rhetorical question.

I need to know what kind of filesystem you're resizing mainly.
Gparted is just trying to keep all your files in-tact. If you don't care for that you can simply delete the partition, then resize it.

Assuming you're attempting to resize a ntfs partition, you can try ntfsfix, or you may have to boot windows and do a chkdsk /f. A windows partition can be locked up if you last hibernated or slept the computer the last time you were in Windows.

[editline]26th October 2013[/editline]

Oh I also need to know if you're trying to resize a partition that's currently mounted (you can't do that).

[XxThreedogxX]

What are the advantages of a tiling WM?

[FPtje]

[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;42662806]What are the advantages of a tiling WM?[/QUOTE]

Tiles.

[editline]27th October 2013[/editline]

Really, the WM puts the windows in tiles according to rules [i]you[/i] defined.
It can also spawn windows on tags (workspaces) you defined.

e.g. Firefox always starts on tag (workspace) 3. If I'm in tag 1 and open firefox, I won't see it until I open tag 3. It's really useful. I can open a bunch of programs on boot with keyboard shortcuts (that I defined myself) and they'll automatically be in the right workspace.

[mastersrp]

[QUOTE=Soleeedus;42659524]chkdsk is a windows function, yes

but it's still telling me to do that when I try resizing my partition[/QUOTE]

It's because you need to first reboot into windows, and run the specified command, THEN use gparted to resize the partition. This does sometime happen as an effect of the way that Windows treats partitions and filesystems.

[editline]27th October 2013[/editline]

Alternatively, boot with a Windows rescue CD (available free from neowin), and run the command on the correct drive.

[Soleeedus]

[QUOTE=mastersrp;42663296]It's because you need to first reboot into windows, and run the specified command, THEN use gparted to resize the partition. This does sometime happen as an effect of the way that Windows treats partitions and filesystems.

[editline]27th October 2013[/editline]

Alternatively, boot with a Windows rescue CD (available free from neowin), and run the command on the correct drive.[/QUOTE]

I did exactly that -- booted into windows, ran chkdsk /f, rebooted twice, then tried installing linux. it's still telling me to run chkdsk /f