General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;42662806]What are the advantages of a tiling WM?[/QUOTE] It optimizes away having to micromanage positions and bounds if you find yourself thinking and working far more in terms of "I want this window to the right of this window", rather than "I want the corner of this window to overlap this part like so...". The physical metaphor's the obvious place to begin, but the possibility for simplification eventually pops into the mind - and where better to start than to realize that it's windows in relative positioning relationships to each other that I'm looking for, anyway?

fucking finally, figured out the problem windows 8 uses fast startup (aka hibernation instead of true shutdown), which causes issues with partition changes. now I'm running Fedora

Unity can be pretty too. [t]http://i.imgur.com/xKHlpKu.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=XxThreedogxX;42662806]What are the advantages of a tiling WM?[/QUOTE] I'll just refer to everything FPtje said and add that first and foremost it is nice to use [B]all[/B] of your screen's space. When I'm not using a tiling manager I end up spending a lot of time laying windows out so that I don't see my wallpaper: why would you ever want to see your wallpaper when you could instead be seeing the application you are using? In that same vein I configure all of my applications to have the minimum of extraneous GUI elements on the screen at a time, so that I can see what I'm interested in/working on. [editline]27th October 2013[/editline] For example I use (G)vim as my text editor for LaTex documents and Evince as my pdf viewer; when I want to preview my document I use the latex-suite keybind (leader+LV) and it opens Evince with my document loaded. Since my tiling manager automatically gives each 50% of the screen it is almost as if I have one larger application with an awesome editor and an awesome viewer. Evince even picks up changes and automatically reloads the document, so I can use the latex-suite keybind to recompile (leader+LL) and it instantly updates. This is just one case, but you'll find it happens very often; you can combine multiple GUI applications just as you would combine multiple command-line based ones with pipes.

[QUOTE=Ol' Pie;42664469]Unity can be pretty too. [t]http://i.imgur.com/xKHlpKu.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] I've been trying to find one for 5-6 years, but I still haven't found a single intelligent person that just sits there and looks at their desktop.

[QUOTE=nikomo;42664691]I've been trying to find one for 5-6 years, but I still haven't found a single intelligent person that just sits there and looks at their desktop.[/QUOTE] Well, putting it that way, i'm not pretty intelligent :v: . The thing is that a lot of times I just play music and stare at the ceiling of my room, so a pretty desktop works for me.

Probably late as fuck [IMG]http://img.lulz.net/src/gentoo_way.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Soleeedus;42664463]fucking finally, figured out the problem windows 8 uses fast startup (aka hibernation instead of true shutdown), which causes issues with partition changes. now I'm running Fedora[/QUOTE] you have got to be shitting me... windows corrupted the ntfs partition and now blue screens on startup, leaving me with fedora. I'm able to mount the drive and recover some files but overall, I have to reinstall W8 just spent 20 minutes on hold with M$ support and they finally resent my confirmation email with product key, so this little linux venture has been a huge pain in my ass.

because of windows, mostly?

[QUOTE=Soleeedus;42665793]you have got to be shitting me... windows corrupted the ntfs partition and now blue screens on startup, leaving me with fedora. I'm able to mount the drive and recover some files but overall, I have to reinstall W8 just spent 20 minutes on hold with M$ support and they finally resent my confirmation email with product key, so this little linux venture has been a huge pain in my ass.[/QUOTE] That's what happens when a 90+% monopoly company wants to make it shit for everyone else.

hybrid boot has great benefits, but sometimes it's just a fucking bitch. Especially on dualboot systems.

Sick to death of having to boot into Windows when I want to play games and then I cant be bothered to boot back into Linux. My computer feels so fragmented. Why cant Microsoft just fucking add native support for EXT? and I need Fuse on Windows that or the game devs port to Linux. Fucking sick of this shit. My computer also seems so much quieter when im in Linux; not constantly writing out to disk.

[QUOTE=TheCreeper;42667230]Sick to death of having to boot into Windows when I want to play games and then I cant be bothered to boot back into Linux. My computer feels so fragmented. Why cant Microsoft just fucking add native support for EXT? and I need Fuse on Windows that or the game devs port to Linux. Fucking sick of this shit. My computer also seems so much quieter when im in Linux; not constantly writing out to disk.[/QUOTE] Have you tried running your games in Wine? Like maybe using PlayOnLinux?

I'm having few problems mounting my windows partition in linux. I can mount it as read only, but not with write access. I've disabled windows fast boot and I have properly shut down windows, but it still throws me an error saying that the ntfs disk is protected or hibernated or some shit when trying to mount it

[QUOTE=PredGD;42667554]I'm having few problems mounting my windows partition in linux. I can mount it as read only, but not with write access. I've disabled windows fast boot and I have properly shut down windows, but it still throws me an error saying that the ntfs disk is protected or hibernated or some shit when trying to mount it[/QUOTE] Make sure that your Windows system is shut down, and not in hibernation mode or anything like that. If it's protected, you may need to mount the partition as root with read+write permissions.

[QUOTE=PredGD;42667554]I'm having few problems mounting my windows partition in linux. I can mount it as read only, but not with write access. I've disabled windows fast boot and I have properly shut down windows, but it still throws me an error saying that the ntfs disk is protected or hibernated or some shit when trying to mount it[/QUOTE] Make sure you have ntfs-3g installed as well. Without it you can't write.

ntfs-3g is installed, windows is shut down properly before switching to linux and I'm already mounting it with the root account, no dice.

The worst part about Unity now is that when in Alt+Tab, using the scroll wheel is backwards.

[QUOTE=PredGD;42668503]ntfs-3g is installed, windows is shut down properly before switching to linux and I'm already mounting it with the root account, no dice.[/QUOTE] Try using ntfsfix on the afflicted partition, it comes with the ntfs-3g package.

[QUOTE=PredGD;42668503]ntfs-3g is installed, windows is shut down properly before switching to linux and I'm already mounting it with the root account, no dice.[/QUOTE] If you have Windows8/8.1, you need to reboot windows because of hybrid boot, because restart makes a cold boot.

[QUOTE=kaukassus;42671582]If you have Windows8/8.1, you need to reboot windows because of hybrid boot, because restart makes a cold boot.[/QUOTE] well that explains it most likely. how do I reboot if that isn't the same as a restart?

[QUOTE=PredGD;42672123]well that explains it most likely. how do I reboot if that isn't the same as a restart?[/QUOTE] restart == reboot. I may worded it wrong. If you shutdown windows 8/8.1, it doesen't really shutdown completly. AFAIK it writes the kernel state to the disk, do it doesen't have to load everything on the next start again( AKA Hybrid boot). A Reboot/Restart completly shuts down the machine, and it doesen't write the kernel state to disk. Thats also why you need to restart the machine for windows updates, instead of normally shutting down. Some more informations here: [url]http://www.techopedia.com/definition/29080/hybrid-boot-windows-8[/url] [url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTFS-3G#.22Metadata_kept_in_Windows_cache.2C_refused_to_mount.22[/url]

then I'm clueless. whenever I switch into my arch install I restart windows, so it must be completely shut down?

[QUOTE=PredGD;42672181]then I'm clueless. whenever I switch into my arch install I restart windows, so it must be completely shut down?[/QUOTE] Do you have UEFI or bios?

bios

[QUOTE=PredGD;42672204]bios[/QUOTE] Hmm, I guess I'm out of options. [editline]28th October 2013[/editline] chkdsk in Windows? try that.

aye aye, will try that out once I get home

What strikes me as problematic is that going through all these posts, I've had a good amount of the problems myself in my early Linux days. Of course, I can't remember the solutions anymore.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;42673235]What strikes me as problematic is that going through all these posts, I've had a good amount of the problems myself in my early Linux days. Of course, I can't remember the solutions anymore.[/QUOTE] I think many people had their fair share of problems when starting out with Linux. I remember when my CEO asked me to Learn Linux to have atleast one person who knows their way around a Linux system. And so I started out with Kubuntu. The Installation didn't even last a day. I could work for ~1 hour, and then the Installation completly locked up. this was with Kubuntu 9.10. So many things have changed now. I've been distro hopping from the very start, and I always came back to *ubuntu, even today. The main problem I had back then, was that I had to get used to using different software to get the job done. For example: MS Office -> Libreoffice Games -> Flash Games / Cross plattform games / Wine Photoshop -> Gimp etc... For Day-to-Day Usage and for school stuff, Linux is more than capable. The main Problem I always go back to Windows on my school laptop is that the School uses 802.1x Authentication for Network connection, which is a fucking pain in the ass to function on Linux. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesen't. Also Games. Yes, sometimes even in school. [editline]28th October 2013[/editline] I also remember the time when I started out using archlinux. Archlinux has taught me much in the process. When I installed it, I has a casual knowledge on how to use the CLI, I could do basic tasks, and could use a CLI text editor, and I had almost no knowledge on how a Linux system works. Installing it for the first time, and getting it to work was a valuable expierience. I had a similiar expierience when installing gentoo. Back in the days, we even had the flawed Arch Installation Framework. it took me like 2 Days and a few tried to get a bootable system, and installing the correct GFX drivers and getting it to boot on a graphical interface. Truly a beautiful expierience.

[url]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ5Njg[/url] Glad to see this is a common problem in a sense. Not that that's good, but good that it's known and hopefully gets fixed in the meantime. I hear the i915.semaphores = 0 trick brings a 10-15% performance reduction.