General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=FPtje;42696313]I have a tiling window manager for a reason, but thanks for the tip! I didn't know terminal multiplexing exists. I usually only touch the other ttys when my window manager or login manager fails to start. [editline]30th October 2013[/editline] [img]http://i.imgur.com/GAxQUd8.png[/img] [editline]30th October 2013[/editline] Thanks [code] alias pw='ssh-add /home/falco/.ssh/id_rsa' [/code] This is an easy solution. It also helps me from having to enter the password every time I do something with git. Luckily ssh-add doesn't have that delay problem.[/QUOTE] I think the delay problem is with the actual program (git), not your choice of terminal access (gnome-terminal, terminator).

[QUOTE=lavacano;42700552]I think the delay problem is with the actual program (git), not your choice of terminal access (gnome-terminal, terminator).[/QUOTE] When I run a program, I can type things in the terminal. That's basically the problem, I know it is. [img]http://i.imgur.com/o3SrT9f.png[/img] I just don't see what the use is, though. It could sound magical if there was a myth going around that said Linus reads everything typed in a terminal when a program is running.

[QUOTE=FPtje;42700867]When I run a program, I can type things in the terminal. That's basically the problem, I know it is. [img]http://i.imgur.com/o3SrT9f.png[/img] I just don't see what the use is, though. It could sound magical if there was a myth going around that said Linus reads everything typed in a terminal when a program is running.[/QUOTE] [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5733962/ShareX/2013-10/2013-10-30_11-44-25.png[/img] An interesting thing to note is the shit I typed in while sleep was running appeared right after my prompt. I don't know why it does this, but it does.

I don't think it's the terminal's fault. I'm pretty sure it's the shell that's doing it.

Finally stopped being lazy and compiled the kernel myself on my laptop. [t]http://i.imgur.com/SXRlJV6.png[/t]

even when we're done with kernel 3.11 I'm probably going to mod the "Linux for Workgroups" image in i enjoy it way too much

I was done with 3.11 the moment 3.12-rc1 came out.

Ugh I still need to compile the latest kernel. The current one is 3.12-rc7 right?

Yup, 3.12-rc7 is latest right now. Though, I'm already feeling like I've been left behind... I may need to grab Torvalds' tree tomorrow. The great thing about running an ultra-new kernel is that only new kernel functionality can really be broken. The kernel is never, ever allowed to break userspace, and if it does, it's a massive kernel bug that will make Torvalds yell really loudly at the maintainer who let it through.

[QUOTE=nikomo;42703764]Yup, 3.12-rc7 is latest right now. Though, I'm already feeling like I've been left behind... I may need to grab Torvalds' tree tomorrow. The great thing about running an ultra-new kernel is that only new kernel functionality can really be broken. The kernel is never, ever allowed to break userspace, and if it does, it's a massive kernel bug that will make Torvalds yell really loudly at the maintainer who let it through.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but the bad thing about running an ultra-new kernel is that the new kernel functionality can be really broken.

What's new in 3.12/the torvald branch?

Right, but you have to knowingly hit that brick wall. Depends on the functionality really. Pretty much no distro ships with 3.12 right now, but the changes to the ondemand CPU governor are brilliant. Loving it.

[QUOTE=nikomo;42704188]Right, but you have to knowingly hit that brick wall. Depends on the functionality really. Pretty much no distro ships with 3.12 right now, but the changes to the ondemand CPU governor are brilliant. Loving it.[/QUOTE] What's new?

[QUOTE=nikomo;42703764]Yup, 3.12-rc7 is latest right now. Though, I'm already feeling like I've been left behind... I may need to grab Torvalds' tree tomorrow. The great thing about running an ultra-new kernel is that only new kernel functionality can really be broken. The kernel is never, ever allowed to break userspace, and if it does, it's a massive kernel bug that will make Torvalds yell really loudly at the maintainer who let it through.[/QUOTE] As of yesterday, the Portage tree only goes up to 3.11.6. And while I'm certain the 3.12 RCs work fine (and even the sources straight outta git are probably reasonably stable), I'd still prefer what Linus has actually released as "stable".

[QUOTE=danharibo;42708304]What's new?[/QUOTE] It scales down less aggressively. It tries to save power by cutting down clocks aggressively, but in reality you both slowed down execution, and increased the length of execution, which also hurts battery life.

Using a HP Probook 6555b and after installing linux mint 15 cinnamon with my corsair flash voyager gt. And when i reboot i get this:[T]http://i.imgur.com/5crrwEC.jpg[/T] [editline]1st November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Skanic;42718234]Using a HP Probook 6555b and after installing linux mint 15 cinnamon with my corsair flash voyager gt. And when i reboot i get this:[T]http://i.imgur.com/5crrwEC.jpg[/T][/QUOTE] I am able to install elementary os and boot into it without this ^ hang up.

so I searched "gentoo" in the portage tree on a lark [code]* app-misc/gentoo Available versions: 0.19.13 0.20.1 (~)0.20.3 {nls} Homepage: http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/ Description: A modern GTK+ based filemanager for any WM[/code] you can literally install gentoo on gentoo

I've been hanging around IRCs waiting for answers for quite some time now, and decided that this question was better asked in a forum like this. I've got a netbook. It has two video outputs. I want to utilize both of those, with the two screens I've got. Problem? [code] xrandr: cannot find crtc for output HDMI-0 [/code] Here's the output from `xrandr`: [code] Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3046 x 1050, maximum 8192 x 8192 LVDS connected primary 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 256mm x 144mm 1366x768 60.0*+ 1280x720 59.9 1152x768 59.8 1024x768 59.9 800x600 59.9 848x480 59.7 720x480 59.7 640x480 59.4 HDMI-0 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1280x1024 60.0 + 75.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.1 60.0 800x600 75.0 60.3 640x480 75.0 60.0 720x400 70.1 VGA-0 connected 1680x1050+1366+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 430mm x 270mm 1680x1050 60.0*+ 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.1 60.0 800x600 75.0 60.3 640x480 75.0 60.0 720x400 70.1 [/code] Any ideas how to get this working? I am using the open source AMD drivers.

So why can i install and boot Kubuntu x64 on my probook 6555b but linux mint kde x64 wont boot? Also how do i do power management on linux?

[QUOTE=mastersrp;42720766]I've been hanging around IRCs waiting for answers for quite some time now, and decided that this question was better asked in a forum like this. I've got a netbook. It has two video outputs. I want to utilize both of those, with the two screens I've got. Problem? [code] xrandr: cannot find crtc for output HDMI-0 [/code] Here's the output from `xrandr`: [code] Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3046 x 1050, maximum 8192 x 8192 LVDS connected primary 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 256mm x 144mm 1366x768 60.0*+ 1280x720 59.9 1152x768 59.8 1024x768 59.9 800x600 59.9 848x480 59.7 720x480 59.7 640x480 59.4 HDMI-0 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1280x1024 60.0 + 75.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.1 60.0 800x600 75.0 60.3 640x480 75.0 60.0 720x400 70.1 VGA-0 connected 1680x1050+1366+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 430mm x 270mm 1680x1050 60.0*+ 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.1 60.0 800x600 75.0 60.3 640x480 75.0 60.0 720x400 70.1 [/code] Any ideas how to get this working? I am using the open source AMD drivers.[/QUOTE] What DE are you using? With gnome on my laptop: I just plug in a new video output source and it automatically sets itself up. I can even drag over a currently playing movie and maximize it. I don't have a xorg.conf and I'm just using the open source Intel drivers. Maybe you don't need to mess with xrandr or configs. [Editline]asdf[/editline] Oops sorry. Kinda misread your post. I need to stop making posts at school.

[QUOTE=Anderen2;42675765]Assuming you are using Windows 8 Have you tried to hold down the right shift key, while pressing the power off button under the charms-bar? If so, the only idea I have is to [URL="http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/12/disable-hibernation-windows-8/"]disable hibernation completly[/URL] (If you do not need it)[/QUOTE] been a while since I booted into linux now, but disabling hibernation worked for me. thanks! [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] I really don't understand what's so special about tiling WM's. what do they offer that a traditional WM doesn't? in my opinion it's better to be able to resize your windows freely and choose what's on top of what or what is gonna occupy the entire screen. suppose it boils down to preference in the end? [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] I need to mount my android phone to transfer a few files but I can't get it to show up. neither MTP or PTP shows up as a device in linux. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/7a3QBhY.png[/IMG] really need some help for that

[QUOTE=PredGD;42736341]I really don't understand what's so special about tiling WM's. what do they offer that a traditional WM doesn't? in my opinion it's better to be able to resize your windows freely and choose what's on top of what or what is gonna occupy the entire screen. suppose it boils down to preference in the end?[/QUOTE] Both overlapping and tiling WMs have existed for decades and both have their advantages. A tiling WM, for instance, allows you to trivially switch between any two windows (for example, to the one on the left or to the one on the right) because no two windows may occupy the same space on the screen. As a vim user, I can ascertain this is very useful. The real advantage, however, is that you can usually use all the features of a tiling wm without a mouse. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] Regarding the android issue, is lsusb showing your device? (Also, all mtp filesystem drivers I've tried were kinda... dysfunctional. They'd copy all the files in the root of /sdcard, for instance.)

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/L6rRLLp.png[/IMG] guessing that ASUSTek is the device considering I have a asus device, but not sure if it could possibly be my motherboard?

[QUOTE=Skanic;42721576]So why can i install and boot Kubuntu x64 on my probook 6555b but linux mint kde x64 wont boot? Also how do i do power management on linux?[/QUOTE] The reason for why Mint does not work, while Kubuntu does may be anything. One thing I noticed is that the preinstalled kernel on Mint seems to be 3.8. While Kubuntu 13.10 ships with 3.11. After what I read, your HP Probook uses an AMD graphicschipset and there were lots of changes with the opensource AMD graphics from 3.8 > 3.11. If you want to figure out the spesific error, switch to an VT (Ctrl-Alt-F1), and type "dmesg", and check "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see what went wrong. What do you mean with "Power management"? If you think of simple options like when to switch off the monitor etc. then it should be in your KDE System Settings. More advanced stuff like Radeon DPM can be switched on by applying the radeon.dpm parameter to the kernel. ([URL="http://www.botchco.com/agd5f/?p=57"]More info here[/URL]) [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=PredGD;42736341] I need to mount my android phone to transfer a few files but I can't get it to show up. neither MTP or PTP shows up as a device in linux. really need some help for that[/QUOTE] What DE are you using? I know that the latest KDE have full support for MTP now, unsure about the rest.

-snip because I read that too fast- I'm using cinnamon [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] can't find anything which seems to prove useful. my system recognizes the device when inserted though [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/mn6tT0E.png[/IMG] so it knows it's there, but I can't find it on the system

[QUOTE=PredGD;42737111]-snip because I read that too fast- I'm using cinnamon [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] can't find anything which seems to prove useful. my system recognizes the device when inserted though so it knows it's there, but I can't find it on the system[/QUOTE] I don't think Cinnamon have any GUI-way of using or detecting MTP, but CLI should work. Tried installing libmtp? [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MTP#Installation"]Arch Wiki: MTP[/URL]

[QUOTE=Anderen2;42737318]I don't think Cinnamon have any GUI-way of using or detecting MTP, but CLI should work. Tried installing libmtp? [URL="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MTP#Installation"]Arch Wiki: MTP[/URL][/QUOTE] cheers man, should've checked the wiki before even asking here, completely forgot about it. got it working now!

[QUOTE=Anderen2;42736929]The reason for why Mint does not work, while Kubuntu does may be anything. One thing I noticed is that the preinstalled kernel on Mint seems to be 3.8. While Kubuntu 13.10 ships with 3.11. After what I read, your HP Probook uses an AMD graphicschipset and there were lots of changes with the opensource AMD graphics from 3.8 > 3.11. If you want to figure out the spesific error, switch to an VT (Ctrl-Alt-F1), and type "dmesg", and check "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see what went wrong. What do you mean with "Power management"? If you think of simple options like when to switch off the monitor etc. then it should be in your KDE System Settings. More advanced stuff like Radeon DPM can be switched on by applying the radeon.dpm parameter to the kernel. ([URL="http://www.botchco.com/agd5f/?p=57"]More info here[/URL]) [editline]2nd November 2013[/editline] What DE are you using? I know that the latest KDE have full support for MTP now, unsure about the rest.[/QUOTE] This laptop is pretty shitty, Its a HP probook 6555b. Athlon x2 p320, hd 4250m 4 gb ddr3. Weird thing is that it starts tuning up the fan even though it doesn't do anything. It only does that on linux and in windows if you have the AC charger plugged in. the temps are 75°C on the cpu, you cant read the integrated gpu temps. I have radeon.dpm=1. I am running the latest Kubuntu x64 now.

I've come to the conclusion that my new hardware just doesn't like Linux. I'm either doing something the wrong way with the new hardware or it just simply will not install. It's really frustrating.

What's the hardware?