General Linux Chat and Small Questions v. I broke my Arch Install - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=lavacano;42741105]What's the hardware?[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.lekki.fr/65-361-large/nokia-8210-blue.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=lavacano;42741105]What's the hardware?[/QUOTE] i5 4670k Gigabyte Z87X-D3H OCZ Agility 3 That's all I've changed.

[QUOTE=Skanic;42738699]This laptop is pretty shitty, Its a HP probook 6555b. Athlon x2 p320, hd 4250m 4 gb ddr3. Weird thing is that it starts tuning up the fan even though it doesn't do anything. It only does that on linux and in windows if you have the AC charger plugged in. the temps are 75°C on the cpu, you cant read the integrated gpu temps. I have radeon.dpm=1. I am running the latest Kubuntu x64 now.[/QUOTE] Have you tried the solutions [URL="http://askubuntu.com/questions/116005/gnome-3-ati-fan-always-on/116045#116045"]here?[/URL] Also you can try to read the GPU temp with lm-sensors. [URL="http://askubuntu.com/questions/53762/how-to-use-to-use-lm-sensors"]See here how[/URL]

[url]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUwMTQ[/url] Seems like Shuttleworths ego is creating quite a lot of bad blood.

[QUOTE=Van-man;42742121][url]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUwMTQ[/url] Seems like Shuttleworths ego is creating quite a lot of bad blood.[/QUOTE] I'm just gonna put my opinion out there: First of all, I dislike canonical, but like ubuntu as a product. Sure, there's many things wrong with ubuntu, especially with Mir and the unity-lens-shopping package, etc... but these things can be removed. It's also the reason wh I like mint. It takes all of the things I dislike about ubuntu, and creates a solid package just how I want it. I see canonical as a group of people who take a stand against FOSS. I also really dislike how they don't contribute upstream. Some decisions canonical makes are just pants-on-head retarded. these problems ainly are most likely caused by the higher-ups at canonical (AKA Shuttleworth). Like how the fuck can Microsooft contribute more to linux than conanonical does. Like seriously. I see also canonical as some sort of leech that feeds on the contributions other organisations make, and give nothing in return.

[QUOTE=nehkz;42741253]i5 4670k Gigabyte Z87X-D3H OCZ Agility 3 That's all I've changed.[/QUOTE] just changed my hardware as well, [I]can't wait[/I] to boot into arch to see how broken everything is

[QUOTE=kaukassus;42742198]I'm just gonna put my opinion out there: First of all, I dislike canonical, but like ubuntu as a product. Sure, there's many things wrong with ubuntu, especially with Mir and the unity-lens-shopping package, etc... but these things can be removed. It's also the reason wh I like mint. It takes all of the things I dislike about ubuntu, and creates a solid package just how I want it. I see canonical as a group of people who take a stand against FOSS. I also really dislike how they don't contribute upstream. Some decisions canonical makes are just pants-on-head retarded. these problems ainly are most likely caused by the higher-ups at canonical (AKA Shuttleworth). Like how the fuck can Microsooft contribute more to linux than conanonical does. Like seriously. I see also canonical as some sort of leech that feeds on the contributions other organisations make, and give nothing in return.[/QUOTE] What's bad about Canonical is not the work they may or may not upstream, but how they behave. They act as though they're always trying to take the high ground in any discussion, never actually refuting anything and just brushing it off as the other party being "annoyed" or "unreasonable".

This is probably a far shot, but what if Canonical's trying to wean Ubuntu off of Linux and make it a product they can actually sell?

[QUOTE=Stonecycle;42742796]This is probably a far shot, but what if Canonical's trying to wean Ubuntu off of Linux and make it a product they can actually sell?[/QUOTE] That would be foolish on so many levels that it's gone beyond being funny, then not funny and at last funny again in a Kitsch-like fashion.

[QUOTE=Stonecycle;42742796]This is probably a far shot, but what if Canonical's trying to wean Ubuntu off of Linux and make it a product they can actually sell?[/QUOTE] Question: What does ubuntu provide that makes it worth buying, compared to other solutions, that do esactly the same. (Assuming that you're not an enterprise customer) The thing is, if the make it a commercial product, then they need to provide something that makes it really worth buying. Also, this would probably drive distros like Kubuntu Xubuntu Lubutu, possibly away form ubuntu. The next question would be, if a company would consider paying for a Linux system (assuming you're paying for support), why would you consider ubuntu over Red hat Enterprise edition?. Also, if ubuntu would go commercial, they would still have to provide the source to their distribution, since they would be required, because Licenses etc... That would mean, that distros like "openubuntu", "librebuntu" and the like would appear. For example like Opensuse, that takes the code from SUSE Enterprise edition, and Fedora/CentOS from Red Hat EL. Either way, for ubuntu to go commercial, it would be really bad and stupid.

[QUOTE=Stonecycle;42742796]This is probably a far shot, but what if Canonical's trying to wean Ubuntu off of Linux and make it a product they can actually sell?[/QUOTE] Do you mean the general Linux community or that they'd literally write their own kernel

is there anything I should be aware of when installing Arch on an SSD disk? I'd love to move my root partition to my SSD disk but I don't want to move my home partition, I want that to stay in my HDD. do I even have to reinstall Arch to move my root to my SSD?

[QUOTE=PredGD;42744403]is there anything I should be aware of when installing Arch on an SSD disk? I'd love to move my root partition to my SSD disk but I don't want to move my home partition, I want that to stay in my HDD. do I even have to reinstall Arch to move my root to my SSD?[/QUOTE] Not at all. You can simply move the partition, change the boot drive, and you should be good to go.

[QUOTE=mastersrp;42744444]Not at all. You can simply move the partition, change the boot drive, and you should be good to go.[/QUOTE] how do I move the partition over though? :v: can I use GParted to move it? also, how am I supposed to get grub working again? give the root partition some space on the SSD disk, boot up GParted, move partition, boot up arch live CD, install grub and reboot?

[QUOTE=PredGD;42744643]how do I move the partition over though? :v: can I use GParted to move it? also, how am I supposed to get grub working again? give the root partition some space on the SSD disk, boot up GParted, move partition, boot up arch live CD, install grub and reboot?[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's pretty much it. There's an extra step though, which is chrooting into your root partition, and reconfiguring grub using `grub-config - o /boot/grub/grub.cfg`

[QUOTE=PredGD;42742231]just changed my hardware as well, [I]can't wait[/I] to boot into arch to see how broken everything is[/QUOTE] I bet you'll be able to actually install Linux, though.

[QUOTE=PredGD;42744403]is there anything I should be aware of when installing Arch on an SSD disk? I'd love to move my root partition to my SSD disk but I don't want to move my home partition, I want that to stay in my HDD. do I even have to reinstall Arch to move my root to my SSD?[/QUOTE] Also read [url]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD#Tips_for_Maximizing_SSD_Performance[/url]

After an hour of non-stop button smashing I made this tool: [url]https://github.com/Darkwater124/dock[/url] [url=http://dev.novaember.com/s/13-11-04_00-22-39_029077922.webm]Preview[/url] You'll have to do the bindings yourself. Maybe I'll write something that listens to keyboard inputs later.

[QUOTE=Darkwater124;42748050]After an hour of non-stop button smashing I made this tool: [URL]https://github.com/Darkwater124/dock[/URL] [URL="http://dev.novaember.com/s/13-11-04_00-22-39_029077922.webm"]Preview[/URL] You'll have to do the bindings yourself. Maybe I'll write something that listens to keyboard inputs later.[/QUOTE] Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't understand; why not just use a tiling WM?

If anyone here using base Ubuntu 13.10, can you please tell me if I'm no the only one getting a metric shit ton of errors every time I log in?

Should i try out other linux? I have only some knowledge of debian/ubuntu based distros, like terminal commands etc, i don't know how to compile my own driver or something like that. I have never used Fedora, Arch etc.

i tried to use jack and it was going fine at first but now everything is broken [editline]4th November 2013[/editline] you know what fuck everything i am installing fedora jam kde i'll be dead before they slap the cuffs on [editline]4th November 2013[/editline] you know what fuck everything i am installing fedora jam kde i'll be dead before they slap the cuffs on

[QUOTE=Megaman1811;42748493]If anyone here using base Ubuntu 13.10, can you please tell me if I'm no the only one getting a metric shit ton of errors every time I log in?[/QUOTE] [THUMB]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63660484/Facepunch%20shit/Screenshot%20from%202013-11-01%2016%3A34%3A57.png[/THUMB] This can't be normal [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] Im serious guys. how do I find out what is wrong?

[QUOTE=Megaman1811;42749464][THUMB]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63660484/Facepunch%20shit/Screenshot%20from%202013-11-01%2016%3A34%3A57.png[/THUMB] This can't be normal [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] Im serious guys. how do I find out what is wrong?[/QUOTE] System logs (/var/log/)? If Ubuntu's using systemd you can just run journalctl.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;42750727]System logs (/var/log/)? If Ubuntu's using systemd you can just run journalctl.[/QUOTE] but what am I looking for specifically? what log file? if it helps, this is just base Ubuntu as you can probably tell

[QUOTE=Skanic;42748722]Should i try out other linux? I have only some knowledge of debian/ubuntu based distros, like terminal commands etc, i don't know how to compile my own driver or something like that. I have never used Fedora, Arch etc.[/QUOTE] Definitely try something like Arch or Gentoo. I've tried using Gentoo myself and failed miserably because I didn't know my computer well enough, but Arch was great because you get to handpick your applications. It led to a very tiny, very effecient operating system. I'm sure Gentoo would be even better, but I lack the knowledge and patience for it. [editline]3rd November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Megaman1811;42750752]but what am I looking for specifically? what log file? if it helps, this is just base Ubuntu as you can probably tell[/QUOTE] I have no clue! Try anything and everything. Xorg.0.log will probably contain the most relevent errors. Otherwise you're probably getting kernel or application errors, which will be in some other log files. I'm too used to journalctl where everything is in one place, and I can just search for errors with regex expressions. So I'm pretty unfamiliar with where logs will be stored. Oh also I haven't used Ubuntu in years. So take everything I say with a grain of salt: I'm just guessing what's wrong.

[QUOTE=Rayjingstorm;42748472]Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't understand; why not just use a tiling WM?[/QUOTE] Because I only want specific windows to tile. I know you can have floating windows in most tiling wms, but I want my wm to behave like a floating wm.

So I tried to apply themes to Ubunto since I don't really like its look that much. How it should look like (huge image): [url]http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/156309-1.jpg[/url] And how it looks like: [t]http://i.imgur.com/QuW4PWG.jpg[/t] Welp

Are you even using gnome?

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;42752191]Are you even using gnome?[/QUOTE] To be honest. No idea..