1. A computer that can run Supreme Commander and CS:S.
2. A Samsung moniter that doesn't turn white after use :argh:
3. A friendly rating.
Might just aswell post the whole shopping cart I've been dreaming about, I've got the cash but I'm waiting until my army perioid is over, so I'll be ordering whatever is the equivalent of this in 2011. Possibly an hexa- or even an octo-core if they can get those to consumer markets, possibly a SSD too. But anyway here are the most important components which I've had in mind (I do a lot of rendering and some simulations so I need the RAM etc.)
- i7 860, current Core 2 Duo E6400 2,13GHz feels SLOW on everything
- 4 x 2GB of 1333MHz (fastest the LGA1156 socket supports without OCing) DDR3, CL7 or CL9 I don't believe there's a world of difference.
- Asus Xonar Essence STX (loving dem headphones)
- Antec P180 Mini + replacing all 120mm fans and CPU cooler with Noctua stuff also hooray for chances in cable management and silence!
- A good, light mouse without annoying lights or extra buttons + a fast "gaming" mousepad, using a huge M$ mouse with no pad ATM and not enjoying it.
- Monitor no less than 23" in size, I guess I'm going with just 1080p, but things might change, editing 1080p video and modeling stuff need the space, current 1680x1050 feels cramped
But yeah, I have some $2,000 or 1500€ reserved for it. I'm looking forward to the end of my service because most of the PC tech will be completely different in 2011. I'm very excited that I can finally have a quality PC (feels like buying a Bentley!). Looking forward and waiting eagerly on all the things I'll be able to buy in the future, mainly new cooling components, CPU, GPU, sound cards, cases, and especially SSDs, heck everything sounds so interesting, the army will be like a time machine! D:
1. 500gb HDD to replace my 250
2. a 22" lcd monitor
3. extra stick of ram
but that will be awhile.
Here's a build CombineGuru made for me, hoping to get it as a joined present for my birthday and Christmas.
Intel Core i5-750
ASUS P7P55D
Patriot Viper II Sector 5 4GB (2 x 2GB)
COOLER MASTER 500W PSU
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5770
Western Digital Caviar Green 1 TB
Antec Three Hundred Illusion
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner
[QUOTE=Karjanainen;17847813]Might just aswell post the whole shopping cart I've been dreaming about, I've got the cash but I'm waiting until my army perioid is over, so I'll be ordering whatever is the equivalent of this in 2011. Possibly an hexa- or even an octo-core if they can get those to consumer markets, possibly a SSD too. But anyway here are the most important components which I've had in mind (I do a lot of rendering and some simulations so I need the RAM etc.)
- i7 860, current Core 2 Duo E6400 2,13GHz feels SLOW on everything
- 4 x 2GB of 1333MHz (fastest the LGA1156 socket supports without OCing) DDR3, CL7 or CL9 I don't believe there's a world of difference.
- Asus Xonar Essence STX (loving dem headphones)
- Antec P180 Mini + replacing all 120mm fans and CPU cooler with Noctua stuff also hooray for chances in cable management and silence!
- A good, light mouse without annoying lights or extra buttons + a fast "gaming" mousepad, using a huge M$ mouse with no pad ATM and not enjoying it.
- Monitor no less than 23" in size, I guess I'm going with just 1080p, but things might change, editing 1080p video and modeling stuff need the space, current 1680x1050 feels cramped
But yeah, I have some $2,000 or 1500€ reserved for it. I'm looking forward to the end of my service because most of the PC tech will be completely different in 2011. I'm very excited that I can finally have a quality PC (feels like buying a Bentley!). Looking forward and waiting eagerly on all the things I'll be able to buy in the future, mainly new cooling components, CPU, GPU, sound cards, cases, and especially SSDs, heck everything sounds so interesting, the army will be like a time machine! D:[/QUOTE]
i5 is a better idea than the i7 860. I've got the 920 and the 860, and the 860 isn't worth the cash, you might as well get a 920 for that.
[QUOTE=yngndrw;17842870]1) A workstation setup, with dual Nehalem CPUs & 24GB of ECC DDR3
2) A G300 graphics card
3) A 30" Dell monitor
4) A larger SSD array[/QUOTE]
I think the goal of this thread is to keep it in the realm of realistic wishing because there have already been enough 'dream rig' threads where people just maxed out with impossible specs, "I WANTZ 6 GTX295's in SLI AND THREE RGB LED SONY BRAVIA 52" 1080P TV's for monitors!", a dual Nahalem rig would be awesome but they are only noticeably more powerful over consumer line processors when you get up into the $1000-$1600 Xeons, until then its more economical to just buy like a i7 950 or 975.
-New graphics card (pref. Nvidia 300 series or a cheaper ATI 5870)
-Replace old DDR2 RAM sticks with 1066mhz ones
-Save whatever left over money I get for future upgrades
All I'm realistically wishing for.
[QUOTE=Evilan;17849517]-Replace old DDR2 RAM sticks with 1066mhz ones.[/QUOTE]
It's not a very big difference.. Unless you're at like 677mhz right now.
Well If I had a job I could afford this ,
3x Hannsg 28" LCD Monitor
1x ATi 5870/5850
1x AMD Phenom II x4 940 BE
6GB of RAM
1x 1TB HDD
1x Coolmaster Cosmos S window Case
a big L shape desk to fit all shit on
well I am getting the CPU, the RAM, and 1 of those screens soon +chrimbo
1. Decent laptop for university
2. Processor for desktop that's not a Pentium 4
3. HDD that's a bit bigger than 35GB // or external HD
[QUOTE=devvothechav;17848768]i5 is a better idea than the i7 860. I've got the 920 and the 860, and the 860 isn't worth the cash, you might as well get a 920 for that.[/QUOTE]
Care to show me some benches where 920 would be faster than 860?
I mean, the i7 860 is a bit cheaper to me vs the i7 920, also HT boosts rendering by a good margin
[QUOTE=Karjanainen;17853147]Care to show me some benches where 920 would be faster than 860?[/QUOTE]
They are about the same, expect the 860 has less PCI-E latency due to the onboard controller. That explains why i got about 0.6 FPS(average! so don't complain about the crysis bench below) better almost in every benchmark I did with my 860 than my 920. The 920 does features a triple channel memory controller, which indeed makes a difference (for me).
also take note that the i7 QPI operates @ 25.6GB/s and it connects to the northbridge, X58, whereas the i7 860s QPI does NOT connect to the PCH, the DMI does, and it operates @ 2.5GB/s, which can cause bottlenecks with lots of hard drives and things connected.
Here are my benchies. Although it is within margin of error, it did this every time i ran any benchmark.
Crysis
Core i7 920 @ 4 GHz (191x21) + GTX 275 (stock clocks)
[img]http://i36.tinypic.com/2ib2t7k.png[/img]
Core i7 860 @ 4 GHz (191x21) + GTX 275 (stock clocks)
[img]http://i38.tinypic.com/2sadv2u.jpg[/img]
as you can see.. not a big difference. But we are still yet to see if the QPI is bottlenecking.
I'm not saying the i5s and i7s (8XX) are faster than the 9XXs, I'm saying that the difference seems to be so little. I'm saying save cash and buy a i5 unless you're getting a fairly strong SLI/crossfire setup. You can't future proof, you never know, what if the GTX "400s" in 2 years are bottlenecked by the i7 900s? You don't know.
Maybe in a few years, as mentioned above, it will matter. That's why you would want to go for the 920, as it can be the same price as a 860. ( whole build )
[QUOTE=devvothechav;17853342]
a good wall of text
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I see, you've certainly done your homework.. but you only had a gaming benchmark in there, rendering uses multiple cores a bit more efficiently, and clock speeds make a difference when it comes to scene preparation, which is also an important factor, so as individual CPUs the i7 860 does seem the best (since i5 lacks the necessary hyperthreading) even if it does so with a very slight price-performance ratio advantage. But as a platform, the x58 is much more tempting, thinking about future i7s and i9s, so I think I'm going with one of the future LGA1366 cpus anyway. Thanks!
1. Radeon 5770.
2. Antec 902 case.
3. Borderlands.
Although I'm not too rich and I can't buy it at the moment :frown:.
1.A non-CRT monitor
2.Bigger Desk
3.2Gig Ram Stick x 2
4.Wacom Bamboo Tablet
5.New Video Card
[QUOTE=Karjanainen;17856304]I see, you've certainly done your homework.. but you only had a gaming benchmark in there, rendering uses multiple cores a bit more efficiently, and clock speeds make a difference when it comes to scene preparation, which is also an important factor, so as individual CPUs the i7 860 does seem the best (since i5 lacks the necessary hyperthreading) even if it does so with a very slight price-performance ratio advantage. But as a platform, the x58 is much more tempting, thinking about future i7s and i9s, so I think I'm going with one of the future LGA1366 cpus anyway. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Awesome.
I'll put in some multi threaded benchmarks, I' haven't had the time to put them in. (e.g. soft sandra, everest, pc mark vantage, h.264 encoding bench, cinebench
[QUOTE=devvothechav;17856914]Awesome.
I'll put in some multi threaded benchmarks, I' haven't had the time to put them in. (e.g. soft sandra, everest, pc mark vantage, h.264 encoding bench, cinebench[/QUOTE]
I think Cinebench, 3DSMax or Blender would be most relevant to my interests, but no need to go through all that trouble since them benchmarks are plenty around the internet :3 As it can be seen here, i7 860 is ever so slightly faster, but of course only time will tell if the LGA1366 will turn out better after all, ATM it seems like the six-core Gulftown is gonna be very expensive, so there might not actually be much sense in getting the 920 in hopes of getting a better CPU in the near future after all..
[img]http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1731/20078.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Teddypimm;17844682]For me its
1. long aux cable
2. new computer ( will cost about £650[B] (its a prebuilt))[/B]
3. Surge protector
4. Games for new computer[/QUOTE]
:sigh:
1) 2GB more RAM (currently 3 GB, GTA IV LOVES RAM, can't play with textures on High w/out lag on 3 GB).
2) 500 GB hard disk (current one is almost full).
New CPU and Mobo.
I guess I can handle things with a HD3850, if not, probably a new GPU aswell.
And a new PSU.
And more RAM.
And a ..
I need a whole new computer.
I don't even want to list my specs here.
[QUOTE=xboomguy;17858164]1) 2GB more RAM (currently 3 GB, GTA IV LOVES RAM, can't play with textures on High w/out lag on 3 GB).
2) 500 GB hard disk (current one is almost full).[/QUOTE]
for GTA4 get a graphcis card with memory thats bigger than 512mb, such as the GTX 260 or the ATi 4870/5850/5870 make sure you have 64bit aswell or you cant use all of your ram
[QUOTE=Dr Nick;17842168]Only reason I can see that happening is hardware overheating.[/QUOTE]
Overheating? No wonder I can play longer with a desk fan blowing into the case.
[QUOTE=Soldier32;17833823]Yeah, I want to move my PC into my room too but that would require a lot of rerouting and shit.[/QUOTE]
You know whats funny, my room was the only way to access the internet at the time.
an upgrade to i5, a 5870, 1 or 2 terrabyte hd.
ipod touch 32 gig(gonna buy one in november though)
[QUOTE=Sgt Pringles;17858333]for GTA4 get a graphcis card with memory thats bigger than 512mb, such as the GTX 260 or the ATi 4870/5850/5870 make sure you have 64bit aswell or you cant use all of your ram[/QUOTE]
I know what I'm doing. 512MB VRAM is actually enough if the GPU has enough horsepower. I used to have 5GB RAM and I can play GTA IV on High (everything including textures) @ 1920x1080 with low FPS but no lags because I haven't upgraded my processor. I uninstalled GTA IV because it ate most of the space on my hard disk, but now I bought the Phenom II X3 720 BE and OC'd to 3.5 GHz, GTA IV plays around 40-65 FPS with everything High, but when I start to move around, it lags because I sold 2GB to my friend (I have 3GB left). I used the commandline -nomemrestrictions and -availablevidmem 2.0, worked like charm. The video card is HD 4770.
tl;dr version: 512MB VRAM is enough for GTA IV, need fast CPU (>3 cores @ >3.2 GHz) and a lot of RAM.
Yea, the cpu is what makes gta4 feel good or bad.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;17848776]I think the goal of this thread is to keep it in the realm of realistic wishing because there have already been enough 'dream rig' threads where people just maxed out with impossible specs, "I WANTZ 6 GTX295's in SLI AND THREE RGB LED SONY BRAVIA 52" 1080P TV's for monitors!", a dual Nahalem rig would be awesome but they are only noticeably more powerful over consumer line processors when you get up into the $1000-$1600 Xeons, until then its more economical to just buy like a i7 950 or 975.[/QUOTE]
That is realistic for me - I've just finished University doing Computer Games Development and will soon be getting a job. The time-frame for these changes are around when the G300 cards will be released, or slightly after.
I also use VMware and compile maps for people. The extra RAM and CPU power is very welcome for me. (Although I actually expect it to be slower than my current i7 for games.)
[QUOTE=Ajacks;17848776]I think the goal of this thread is to keep it in the realm of realistic wishing because there have already been enough 'dream rig' threads where people just maxed out with impossible specs, "I WANTZ 6 GTX295's in SLI AND THREE RGB LED SONY BRAVIA 52" 1080P TV's for monitors!", a dual Nahalem rig would be awesome but they are only noticeably more powerful over consumer line processors when you get up into the $1000-$1600 Xeons, until then its more economical to just buy like a i7 950 or 975.[/QUOTE]
why not a 920 haha, 950 is crap, and the 975 is Intels pick of the crop batches, with a unlocked multi. If intel sees a chip that bins very high, they'll mark it as a 975 and unlock the multiplier (or not lock it, I'm not sure how that part works at least)
[QUOTE=yngndrw;17859564]That is realistic for me - I've just finished University doing Computer Games Development and will soon be getting a job. The time-frame for these changes are around when the G300 cards will be released, or slightly after.
I also use VMware and compile maps for people. The extra RAM and CPU power is very welcome for me. (Although I actually expect it to be slower than my current i7 for games.)[/QUOTE]
That's interesting, could I see your portfolio out of curiosity? Where are you going to work and where did you graduate from?
[QUOTE=Blackwater;17849843]It's not a very big difference.. Unless you're at like 677mhz right now.[/QUOTE]
It will be a tremendous difference I think... I have 6gb of 677mhz RAM, 2x1gb and 2x2gb sticks.
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