[QUOTE=fstab;25320928]You realize Openbox is a WM right? :siren:[/QUOTE]
technically I use XFCE but I voted Openbox because I use it instead of XFWM.
There seems to be a big movement starting, particularly in the Linux magazines such as Linux Format and Linux Magazine, hinting that the DE developers should cut out this individual bullshit and combine their resources into one united front for Linux.
Seems like a good idea, will make changing to Linux easier for other OS users. However, is it worth bringing more users over if we lose a bit of the personal choice and customisation?
I use DWM as well as turb__.
It's not well known in the Linux world, which I think is a shame because it's one of the more aesthetically pleasing WM/DE's.
The only downside I can think of is by default it's not very customizable, although it can be patched with relative ease to appear however you want.
turb?
I can't find anything through google.
DWM is very customizable by default, if that's what you're referring to.
[QUOTE=snuwoods;25329269]turb?
I can't find anything through google.
DWM is very customizable by default, if that's what you're referring to.[/QUOTE]
Turb, the user here. Not a DE/ WM. Silly.
haha, his sentence doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=TrueNash;25327853]There seems to be a big movement starting, particularly in the Linux magazines such as Linux Format and Linux Magazine, hinting that the DE developers should cut out this individual bullshit and combine their resources into one united front for Linux.
Seems like a good idea, will make changing to Linux easier for other OS users. However, is it worth bringing more users over if we lose a bit of the personal choice and customisation?[/QUOTE]
Diversity is what makes linux strong. I'd hate to see my choice reduced just so linux gets a few more people.
[QUOTE=eXeC64;25329851][B]Diversity is what makes linux strong[/B]. I'd hate to see my choice reduced just so linux gets a few more people.[/QUOTE]
qft
[QUOTE=TrueNash;25327853]There seems to be a big movement starting, particularly in the Linux magazines such as Linux Format and Linux Magazine, hinting that the DE developers should cut out this individual bullshit and combine their resources into one united front for Linux.
Seems like a good idea, will make changing to Linux easier for other OS users. However, is it worth bringing more users over if we lose a bit of the personal choice and customisation?[/QUOTE]
it will never happen. that's just not the way the Linux community works.
[QUOTE=TrueNash;25327853]There seems to be a big movement starting, particularly in the Linux magazines such as Linux Format and Linux Magazine, hinting that the DE developers should cut out this individual bullshit and combine their resources into one united front for Linux.
Seems like a good idea, will make changing to Linux easier for other OS users. However, is it worth bringing more users over if we lose a bit of the personal choice and customisation?[/QUOTE]
The day I'm stuck using some horrific fusion of KDE and Gnome with spinnan' cubes built-in is the day I say "fuck Linux" and switch to Plan 9.
On a related note, I can't wait for Glendix.
[QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;25333068]The day I'm stuck using some horrific fusion of KDE and Gnome with spinnan' cubes built-in is the day I say "fuck Linux" and switch to Plan 9.[/QUOTE]
there are only two window managers for plan 9, and one doesn't even work with the newest versions
The thing with the "single, unified DE/WM for all distros" idea is that it would probably be the stock DE on most user ready distros like Ubuntu and Mint, but could still be replaced with whatever you want manually. As you said Buttsex, it's not the way the Linux community works. They would always want the option to change.
I'd also expect Arch and Gentoo to never support having those by default too. Seeing as they are do-it-yourself distros.
[QUOTE=TrueNash;25327853]There seems to be a big movement starting, particularly in the Linux magazines such as Linux Format and Linux Magazine, hinting that the DE developers should cut out this individual bullshit and combine their resources into one united front for Linux.
Seems like a good idea, will make changing to Linux easier for other OS users. However, is it worth bringing more users over if we lose a bit of the personal choice and customisation?[/QUOTE]
Even if it did happen, it wouldn't make the situation better.
Theres a saying that goes something like "if it takes 5 programmers to do a job in a year, that doesn't mean 10 can do it 6 months."
Which is similar to "9 mothers can't have a baby in 1 month"
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;25333143]there are only two window managers for plan 9, and one doesn't even work with the newest versions[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter.
rio > X+KDE.
Or maybe even if the DE/WM thing does happen, it'll push developers to make better DE's to compete with it. :colbert:
[QUOTE=EEvilMuffin;25334020]Or maybe even if the DE/WM thing does happen, it'll push developers to make better DE's to compete with it. :colbert:[/QUOTE]
Gnome and KDE are the prevalent DEs. it's pretty obvious that quality isn't what matters
Well define quality, because you have all different types. Stable, full of eye candies, functional, customizable, it all depends on the user's taste. Coke or Pepsi really.
functional is what matters. the faster you can get shit done, the better the environment.
[QUOTE=EEvilMuffin;25339559]Well define quality, because you have all different types. Stable, full of eye candies, functional, customizable, it all depends on the user's taste. Coke or Pepsi really.[/QUOTE]
No.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;25339800]functional is what matters. the faster you can get shit done, the better the environment.[/QUOTE]
What about a desktop environment makes getting stuff done faster? KDE doesn't slow down my typing in vim. So I'm not really sure what else there is.
[QUOTE=ROBO_DONUT;25340135]No.[/QUOTE]
Why?
Xfce.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;25340208]What about a desktop environment makes getting stuff done faster? KDE doesn't slow down my typing in vim. So I'm not really sure what else there is.[/QUOTE]
start firefox in kde:
click the icon
start firefox in openbox:
super+z (note that it isn't default but fuck defaults they always suck no matter what)
I'm just using Gnome right now, but I'm gonna try KDE, LXCE, XFCE, openbox and others over the course of the next couple of days.
Well, if minecraft lets me stop playing it... I LOVE THIS FUCKING GAME.
[QUOTE=Justice;25352333]GNOME. XFCE isn't too bad either from first glances, but I haven't tried it much.[/QUOTE]
Gnome is a bit better. but I prefer XFCE
Lack of bulky frameworks just for one note taking application. I'd say it's all the libraries.
DEs are pointless to me. All I use them for is opening applications. Tint2 and OpenBox gives me the same result.
I like to feel like I'm using my computer, not battling against it.
That's why I just bung on something like Gnome and be happy. I don't need the super lightweight attributes of something like XFCE or *Box, and neither do I need the customizability.
It just seems like a lot of effort for something that I barely use except for launching other stuff, which is why I just use Gnome with factory settings.
[editline]13th October 2010[/editline]
tl;dr Gnome looks nice and is easy.
Openbox because its nice and fast.
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