[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;21020070]I guess people will bitch and moan about it no matter what. Saying, it's hot buggy and unfixable. so was the 4000 series by ATI then. it got up to 100c standard fan. It's the very same deal with the 400 series. Maybe things in technology that start with a 4 just have bad luck. like the MX 440 too. When we get actual cards we'll by then get fixed drivers and whatnot. power may increase then, and lower power consumption too. maybe.[/QUOTE]
Fermi's current competitor, Cypress did not have this problems.
Anyways, as I said about a month ago, Fermi doesn't necessarily mean prices are going to drop for ATi. Looks leik I'm going to be right ://
i have the benchmark you've all been waiting for
[img]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1957/gpuo.png[/img]
[QUOTE=rampageturke;21024956]i have the benchmark you've all been waiting for
[img]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1957/gpuo.png[/img][/QUOTE]
HAHAHA ATI WHERE IS YoUR GOD NOW
[quote=rampageturke;21024956]i have the benchmark you've all been waiting for
[img]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1957/gpuo.png[/img][/quote]
look at that bacon sizzle
[QUOTE=rampageturke;21024956]i have the benchmark you've all been waiting for
[img]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1957/gpuo.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Dam my hamburger is going to take forever on my 5750.
rather disappointing, my 8800 ULTRAs cook faster than that GTX 470.
now I'm hungry...
and you're back :downs:
or not..?
I'm back
[QUOTE=whatnow V2;21025890]rather disappointing, my 8800 ULTRAs cook faster than that GTX 470.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the 470 is one easy to use cooking surface! It's even metal!
[QUOTE=Inacio;21026433]The fat even is canalized to a special container! :byodood:[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, even I didn't expect it to idle at 90C with dual LCDs!
[url]http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1258/15/[/url]
And I'm the guy who's been bitching that fermi'd be shit for months!
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480 beats out the dual GPU 5970s with a single GPU at about $200 less
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[QUOTE=PyroCF;21010550][img]http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/857/woote.png[/img]
In come all the pictures across the internet.[/QUOTE]
Also, nvidia is supposed to run hotter, they have their cards a lot quieter than AMD, but they run a little warmer... ATi still hasn't gotten cooling right and their cards are loud and overheat, but they try to be loud and cool better. Of course you can change this with 2 clicks.
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[QUOTE=Peacekid;21006882]2 months later: GTX 580[/QUOTE]
They're going to be consuming kilowatts soon
[QUOTE=TheStaticAge;21031810]480 beats out the dual GPU 5970s with a single GPU at about $200 less[/QUOTE]
Did you even read any reviews? The 5970 consistently beats the 480.
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[QUOTE=TheStaticAge;21031810]Also, nvidia is supposed to run hotter, they have their cards a lot quieter than AMD, but they run a little warmer[/QUOTE]
That's not true with the 400 series, they're both louder and hotter than their 5000 series equivalents.
[QUOTE=TheStaticAge;21031810]480 beats out the dual GPU 5970s with a single GPU at about $200 less
[editline]07:19AM[/editline]
Also, nvidia is supposed to run hotter, they have their cards a lot quieter than AMD, but they run a little warmer... ATi still hasn't gotten cooling right and their cards are loud and overheat, but they try to be loud and cool better. Of course you can change this with 2 clicks.
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They're going to be consuming kilowatts soon[/QUOTE]
There is so much wrong with this I can't even say it all.
[QUOTE=sbradford26;21032862]There is so much wrong with this I can't even say it all.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=895537[/url] remember this?
[QUOTE=TheStaticAge;21031810]480 beats out the dual GPU 5970s with a single GPU at about $200 less
[editline]07:19AM[/editline]
Also, nvidia is supposed to run hotter, they have their cards a lot quieter than AMD, but they run a little warmer... ATi still hasn't gotten cooling right and their cards are loud and overheat, but they try to be loud and cool better. Of course you can change this with 2 clicks.
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They're going to be consuming kilowatts soon[/QUOTE]
Nvidia-fan butthurt ?
[QUOTE=TheStaticAge;21031810]480 beats out the dual GPU 5970s with a single GPU at about $200 less
[editline]07:19AM[/editline]
Also, nvidia is supposed to run hotter, they have their cards a lot quieter than AMD, but they run a little warmer... ATi still hasn't gotten cooling right and their cards are loud and overheat, but they try to be loud and cool better. Of course you can change this with 2 clicks.
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They're going to be consuming kilowatts soon[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't, the 5970 is consistently above the GTX480 (with a few exception of course), so it doesn't beat the 5970 in performance (probably because the 5970 is dual-GPU too).
If you mean in price/performance, then yes it does beat the 5970, but the best price/performance ratio goes to the 5870 then.
The GTX480 is good for those that want a bit more performance than the 5870 (and possibly futerproofing), but aren't prepared to shell out 250$ more, not to mention that if you are going to get a 5970, you might as well buy two 480s instead and shell out 200$ more (I heavily doubt you don't ahve them if you were going to buy a 600$ card).
Also one thing must be said, it is very possible (I'd nearly say very probable) that the GTX480 will see its performance greatly increased in newer games that are coming out in these years (end 2010 onwards), so it's possible that the performance will have an enormous jump with new games (which is why I think a GTX480 is a very good idea if you have a good case, power-supply and those 50-80 $ more to put in it).
[QUOTE=TheStaticAge;21031810]480 beats out the dual GPU 5970s with a single GPU at about $200 less
[editline]07:19AM[/editline]
Also, nvidia is supposed to run hotter, they have their cards a lot quieter than AMD, but they run a little warmer... ATi still hasn't gotten cooling right and their cards are loud and overheat, but they try to be loud and cool better. Of course you can change this with 2 clicks.
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They're going to be consuming kilowatts soon[/QUOTE]
So my 5770 with a GPU at 1Ghz is roasting now at 70c stressed? That's with the fan on auto.....can't hear it over my case's fans.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvvQAQU7Sjg[/url] if you have any decent game you get better most of the time.
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the GTX 480 is better than the 5970.
that being said my core i7 laptop with 4GB DDR3 has a 5730 and it plays games fine.
that being said my core i7 920 4.5GHz main computer with 6GB DDR3 and 2 x GTX 280's (SLI) plays* games wonderfully.
probably will be able to play all the games coming out in the next 5 years just fine.
that being said i would prefer nVIDIA over ATI anyday. the only reason my laptop has ATI graphics is because it came with it and i had no choice to change it.
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[QUOTE=TheStaticAge;21038454][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvvQAQU7Sjg[/url] if you have any decent game you get better most of the time.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheStaticAge;21038454][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvvQAQU7Sjg[/url] if you have any decent game you get better most of the time.[/QUOTE]
Because a random youtube video is a far better source than respected benchmarking sites.
Looks like Nvidia will be offering cheaper Fermi cards this summer: [url]http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Fermi-GF100-GPU-Graphics,9998.html[/url]
Im hopin that prices drop for the 5xxx series
[QUOTE=TheStaticAge;21038454][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvvQAQU7Sjg[/url] if you have any decent game you get better most of the time.[/QUOTE]
Because everyone with half a brain knows that fermi's architecture means that for tessellation alone, fermi beats the 5xxx series black and blue. Try an actual game.
[QUOTE=ShaRose_;21046836]Because everyone with half a brain knows that fermi's architecture means that for tessellation alone, fermi beats the 5xxx series black and blue. Try an actual game.[/QUOTE]
nVidia invested in tessellation more than general performance. Then wanted that advantage now rather then later. The plan is that devs will push out games that support different levels of tessellation (low, med, high, etc) and thats where things will begin to pay of for GF100. But since people didn't get the performance they wanted in a new GPU six months ago and still don't have even now, they are quick to right off this as a failure when its actually far from it. When more games support different levels of tessellation, only then will a much more clearer picture will be painted.
[QUOTE=Spartan8907;21047443]nVidia invested in tessellation more than general performance. Then wanted that advantage now rather then later. The plan is that devs will push out games that support different levels of tessellation (low, med, high, etc) and thats where things will begin to pay of for GF100. But since people didn't get the performance they wanted in a new GPU six months ago and still don't have even now, they are quick to right off this as a failure when its actually far from it. When more games support different levels of tessellation, only then will a much more clearer picture will be painted.[/QUOTE]
Except that with fermi, the lower end you go, the weaker the tessellation is. With ati, it's the same amount all throughout.
As well, ati can easily add more performance there if they want. They have both the die area and tdp to spare for it. Just add another engine, or add a bigger / more powerful one. Nvidia doesn't have that ability, since fermi is already maxed out on tdp, die area, etc, and the limit is 32 polymorph engines for the architecture. They could overclock, but then, tdp limits. They can't go past 300 watts and still be PCI-E.
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Oh and of course, you can crossfire low end cards and double performance with tessellation afaik, because it adds another tessellation engine to the mix. Don't know if it really works though, so.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9HBKIH1e-Y[/media]
PhysX, 3D Vision and so on. The only really interesting part (for me at least) is the PhysX in Mafia 2, not worth a new case, a new powersupply and 50$ more for the GPU, but I guess that if you already have the right case and right powersupply, it could be worth spending 50$ for the PhysX in certain games (like Mafia 2, most probably Mirror's Edge 2 and so on).
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