[QUOTE=AesoSpadez;21192143]The heat isn't really a concern for me, but the volume is. I was pretty blown away at the volume of both the 470 and the 480.
I think the 470 (and even the 480) fit pretty comfortably onto the price/performance curve that ATi laid out over the last 3 months, and I think that nVidia could produce a card that was terrible and people would still buy it. These cards aren't in any way revolutionizing the market, but they're not flops, either.
The real question here is how far off the Northern Island chips are. NVidia is back on top where they like to be (in terms of single GPU cards), but I wouldn't be surprised if ATi pushed their new chips out the door by christmas 2010. We'll just have to wait and see.[/QUOTE]
Nope, chip fabs kind of fucked over ati. They spent the past year or so on 32nm production for northern islands, so of course both TMSC and GF killed 32nm production. Now rumors are saying that they will release southern islands, which is basically a 40nm part that is a mix of cypress and northern islands.
[QUOTE=Odellus;21191575]lol, you're hilarious. Heat coming off of the card and heating up other components, hahahaha
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agree
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[B]I think I'm going to get a 470[/B][/QUOTE]
Do it, it's a fucking great card. Also it doesn't run that hot.
[QUOTE=broo20;21201048]Do it, it's a fucking great card. Also it doesn't run that hot.[/QUOTE]
When May rolls around I'll be buying it and hopefully I'll have enough money for this new universal GPU cooler as well, so I can overclock the shit out of it.
[QUOTE=Odellus;21193385]*image*
:smug:[/QUOTE]
Pity the cheapest GTX 470 is more expensive than the cheapest 5870 at the moment where I get parts from in Australia.
The GTX 480 is nearly double a 5850 as well.
Not being a fanboy or anything here, but I think ATI have the advantage because they are much cheaper, that's why I just bought a 5850.
[QUOTE=tomj;21201426]Pity the cheapest GTX 470 is more expensive than the cheapest 5870 at the moment where I get parts from in Australia.
The GTX 480 is nearly double a 5850 as well.
Not being a fanboy or anything here, but I think ATI have the advantage because they are much cheaper, that's why I just bought a 5850.[/QUOTE]
So you're in Australia, it's a different case for the US obviously.
[QUOTE=tomj;21201426]Pity the cheapest GTX 470 is more expensive than the cheapest 5870 at the moment where I get parts from in Australia.
The GTX 480 is nearly double a 5850 as well.
Not being a fanboy or anything here, but I think ATI have the advantage because they are much cheaper, that's why I just bought a 5850.[/QUOTE]
the MSRP is 349... so if it's more than a 5870 then whos fault is that?
[QUOTE=whatnow V2;21195666]I posted assuming everyone has a "decent" case. And if you don't have a good case, get a good case, then get a 470. You can get a good enough case for what, 100 bucks?[/quote] my case is fine and cool, but i'm easily seing it becomming a radiator when i swap my overclocked GTX 260 for a 470/80.
[QUOTE=whatnow V2;21195666]I had a really shitty case and my GTX 275 went to 80c+ with no issues. gee I wonder why the card had no problems at 80c![/QUOTE]
never contested that, i totally agree. never myself had problems with any kind of video cards at temps below 100 actually.
what case do you have then?
[QUOTE=Odellus;21191575]lol, you're hilarious. Heat coming off of the card and heating up other components, hahahaha
[/QUOTE]
yeah, you have no idea about how one physical mass transfers energy to another, do you?
it's part of science/physics class, wake UP!
so, yea, the 480 at 80 degrees is cooled by it's cooler to the external temp of 75 (just play along). this heat is then transferred into the air which was at room temp (20-25).
taking all other components into consideration CPU with stick cooler operates under load anywhere between 60-75 degrees celcius. this then heats the air inside the cabinet too.
well, taking everything into consideration, damaging the less heat resistant components in the long run is more likely than ever with this card.
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[QUOTE=whatnow V2;21204667]what case do you have then?[/QUOTE]
NZXT. i have no numbers on or anything else, so i'm just gonna asume it's a shitty cabinet with 2 large fans and some Gangsta* lightning in front for show. that's what i have, a gift from strangeguywhowantstobefriendmyparents225. and i'm happy not having to pay for one myself since i'm shit at managing money.
*=read: gay
[QUOTE=Bomimo;21204698]yeah, you have no idea about how one physical mass transfers energy to another, do you?
it's part of science/physics class, wake UP!
so, yea, the 480 at 80 degrees is cooled by it's cooler to the external temp of 75 (just play along). this heat is then transferred into the air which was at room temp (20-25).
taking all other components into consideration CPU with stick cooler operates under load anywhere between 60-75 degrees celcius. this then heats the air inside the cabinet too.
well, taking everything into consideration, damaging the less heat resistant components in the long run is more likely than ever with this card.
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NZXT. i have no numbers on or anything else, so i'm just gonna asume it's a shitty cabinet with 2 large fans and some Gangsta* lightning in front for show. that's what i have, a gift from strangeguywhowantstobefriendmyparents225. and i'm happy not having to pay for one myself since i'm shit at managing money.
*=read: gay[/QUOTE]
75C of the heat it's generating is not going to be transferred to the air around it, are you insane? If anything it'll heat up the air immediately around it by 1C or less. It doesn't even ventilate except for out the back of your case.
just sayin' the graphics card is designed to push air out the back of the case and not inside.
Turning on furmark doesn't increase the temperature of the air in my case much, high fan or low (High it was around 67c and low @ 90c) with TWO GTX 275s.
You're making a big deal out of a small thing.
And no, I'm not going to play along. It'll stay at 80c (64c "card" according to legitreviews), because the fans are on auto. They'll be slow, and moving little air. Ramp it up to 60-80 percent and watch the temps drop... run games.. it's still not going to go up much.
[QUOTE=tomj;21201426]Pity the cheapest GTX 470 is more expensive than the cheapest 5870 at the moment where I get parts from in Australia.
The GTX 480 is nearly double a 5850 as well.
Not being a fanboy or anything here, but I think ATI have the advantage because they are much cheaper, that's why I just bought a 5850.[/QUOTE]
If it's not PC case gear or MSY and it's Australian, don't buy from it.
i was just saying, it's not entirely unlike for "as this thread trollingly states" a 150 degree card to overheat the whole fucking rig!
heat spreads wether you like it or not, that's how this works. go be NEO if you want to change it then, tell me how it works.
but i'm fine with my radiator (computer) at about 30-40 overall.
As soon as companies bring out custom coolers it should sort out heat and noise issues, right?
[QUOTE=PyroCF;21206056]As soon as companies bring out custom coolers it should sort out heat and noise issues, right?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://images.anandtech.com/doci/c3637/Card2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://images.anandtech.com/doci/c3637/Card3.jpg[/img]
Coming soon to a 400 series near you.
jesus
[QUOTE=Odellus;21207034]jesus[/QUOTE]
And if the size wasn't enough, it's $110 for the whole package. But I'm sure some people would find it worth it:
[img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/spitfire_040610125711/22390.png[/img]
[img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/spitfire_040610125711/22391.png[/img]
Will probably do wonders for the 400s as well.
lol
i wouldn't pay a cent for that. I'll just turn up my fan speeds. Boom.
[QUOTE=M_B;21214014][img]http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8245/omnialcgtx480.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
AKA: another hydro copper.
well, factoring in costs the spitfire 480 will probably be cheaper than Hydro copper or the omnial up there.
[QUOTE=M_B;21214014][img]http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8245/omnialcgtx480.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Prettu ugly IMO, Evga's are much nicer looking.
Also unnecessary dual-slot bracket.
I'm in the market for a new video card and wanted to wait until the 4XX series was released, but it's going to be another few months before any affordable priced models are released and even then it's going to have inflated prices because it's new.
I'm thinking about just dropping in for a 5770 or a 4870. I can get the former at $130 (right within my price needs), and the latter for $150. Thinking about the latter simply because I hear the 5770 has issues with windows 7 and auto-underclocking, plus the 4870 simply performs modestly better. Eyefinitiy is a gimmick to me and so is DX11 (atleast for the next couple of years when the card will already be obsolete).
5770 can't even run DX11, tessellation or Eyefinity for shit. There's no point in buying it.
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[QUOTE=Roast Beast;21214335]Prettu ugly IMO, Evga's are much nicer looking.
Also unnecessary dual-slot bracket.[/QUOTE]
You're not going to see it.
Stop commenting on the looks of graphics cards, it's stupid.
[QUOTE=Odellus;21214985]You're not going to see it.
Stop commenting on the looks of graphics cards, it's stupid.[/QUOTE]
What's the point of posting pictures of graphics cards if not to get comments on how they look?
[quote= source] Over at EXPreview, some photographs have surfaced of the shortened version of the GTX 480. This PCB design appears to be a complete redesign of the GTX 480 that we recently reviewed from Nvidia. The interesting thing is, these designs are beginning to surface before cards are even globally available through retailers. This fact brings us to believe that AIBs have been working on these designs for quite some time and that a redesign has long been in the cards.
Taiyanfa Custom GeForce GTX 480 Board - an ideal board for Folding@home?
Taiyanfa Custom GeForce GTX 480 Board - an ideal board for Folding@home and powerful HTPC systems?
This non-reference card appears to feature not only a shorter card length, but it also should have dual 6-pin power connectors as opposed to the current 8 + 6 pin design. In addition to that, there is a possibility that these cards could launch at the same clocks as the reference cards but possibly be hampered in overclocking by their dual 6 pin design. This design is drastically different from even the first custom PCB cards that we reported on around the time of the GTX 480 launch.
Backside of this custom PCB design reveals how short the GTX 480 design can be - this board is as short as GeForce GTS 250
Backside of this custom PCB design reveals how short the GTX 480 design can be - this board is as short as GeForce GTS 250
As we’ve stated before in our GTX 480 review, there will likely be a ton of custom PCB designs out there that could possibly help Nvidia stay in the game, although as it stands right now there still aren’t any GTX 480’s out there for sale yet and the card is indeed quite hot and power hungry. AIBs hope to remedy both of these issues with custom coolers and non-reference designs.
Taiyanfa's custom design PCB lowers the maximum power consumption to 225W [75W from PCIe x16, two 6-pin connectors count for additional 150W total], which is most probably achieved by lowering the GPU clock. However, we see a lot of potential in this design - for instance, populating six PCIe slots on All-PCIe boards such as ASUS P6T6/P6T7 or EVGA's X58 Classified 4-Way SLI for a GPGPU computing monster, single card design for HTPC chassis, or simply users that don't have 8+6-pin power - such as numerous workstation chassis or already assembled computers from Dell, HP and the like.
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[url]http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/4/6/custom-pcb-gtx-480-designs-show-interesting-developments.aspx[/url]
[img]http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2010_4_6/Custom-PCB-GTX-480-Designs-Show-Interesting-Developments/NVDA_Custom_GTX480A_675.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2010_4_6/Custom-PCB-GTX-480-Designs-Show-Interesting-Developments/NVDA_Custom_GTX480B_675.jpg[/img]
It's looking better for nvidia.
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;21220653][url]http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/4/6/custom-pcb-gtx-480-designs-show-interesting-developments.aspx[/url]
[img]http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2010_4_6/Custom-PCB-GTX-480-Designs-Show-Interesting-Developments/NVDA_Custom_GTX480A_675.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2010_4_6/Custom-PCB-GTX-480-Designs-Show-Interesting-Developments/NVDA_Custom_GTX480B_675.jpg[/img]
It's looking better for nvidia.[/QUOTE]
looks fatter than normal
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or is it just me
[QUOTE=Roast Beast;21214335]Prettu ugly IMO, Evga's are much nicer looking.
Also unnecessary dual-slot bracket.[/QUOTE]
that's an [B]aftermarket[/B] cooler
:downs:
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[QUOTE=Roast Beast;21215189]What's the point of posting pictures of graphics cards if not to get comments on how they look?[/QUOTE]
the point of me posting that pic was to show an optional after market water cooler for the card
[url]http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24027[/url]
not for someone to critique how it looks, i'm not exactly sure what the hell made you think that was why i posted the picture.
and really i've never cared, the card is inside the case, and even if you have a window, the part you'd be looking at, with the silly CG picture or whatever it is, will be facing down. not sure why anyone would really care about how this or that video card looks. same goes for every computer component. even if you have a window, you shouldn't be that concerned about what the product looks like, more concerned about what it does and how well it can do it.
All you posted was a picture, no info about "how well it can do what it does". I thought it looked ugly, so I stated my opinion. I wasn't making any kind of value judgment and I don't give a damn about how parts look when I go to buy them. Stop reading meaning in my comment that isn't there.
M_B is always right b quiet
[QUOTE=KorJax;21214522]I'm in the market for a new video card and wanted to wait until the 4XX series was released, but it's going to be another few months before any affordable priced models are released and even then it's going to have inflated prices because it's new.
I'm thinking about just dropping in for a 5770 or a 4870. I can get the former at $130 (right within my price needs), and the latter for $150. Thinking about the latter simply because I hear the 5770 has issues with windows 7 and auto-underclocking, plus the 4870 simply performs modestly better. Eyefinitiy is a gimmick to me and so is DX11 (atleast for the next couple of years when the card will already be obsolete).[/QUOTE]
Should check out the prices of a 4890, which is bascially an tweaked 4870 I think
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