[QUOTE=mfb412;24156529]5850's are stupid and obsolete now.[/QUOTE]
Wat.
[QUOTE=Falubii;24173189]Wat.[/QUOTE]
Because they are sometimes more expensive than GTX 460 1GB (especially when these Nvidia cards are (pre-)OC) for less or more the same performance.
HD 4850/4870/4890 < GTX 460 768MB < GTX 460 1GB < 5870 < GTX 480
just ordered two EVGA GTX460 1GBs
having a good time
so i've had these two beasts in since about 10am(it's now 4pm)
lost planet 2:
DirectX 11, 1920x1200, everything high, anti-aliasing off
test A: rank A, 77.3FPS average
test B: rank B, 57.3FPS average
Unigine: Heaven
DirectX 11, 1920x1200, everything high, anti-aliasing off, tesselation "extreme"
min: 18.3
avg: 47.5
max: 127.0
score: 1198
will post more when i uh do more
[editline]04:38PM[/editline]
Mafia II
[B]Apex PhysX: High[/B]
1920x1200, everything high, no AA
min: 3.3 fps
avg: 41.2 fps
max: 166.7 fps
rank: C
[B]Apex PhysX: Off[/B]
min: 3.8 fps
avg: 101.6 fps
max: 250.0 fps
rank: A
Batman: Arkham Asylum
1920x1200, everything high, no AA
[B]PhysX: High[/B]
min: 47 fps
avg: 1oo fps
max: 156 fps
[B]PhysX: Off[/B]
min: 114 fps
avg: 242 fps
max: 341 fps
[editline]04:48PM[/editline]
Grand Theft Auto IV
1920x1200, high textures, high reflection, very high water, high shadow (night as well), anisotropic x14, 100 view distance, 100 detail distance, 100 car density, definition on (this is a stupid setting)
Average FPS: 62.51
CPU Usage: 31%
System memory usage: 50%
Video Memory Usage 91%
[editline]05:00PM[/editline]
AvP DirectX11 Benchmark
Resolution: 1920 x 1200
Texture Quality: 2
Shadow Quality: 3
Anisotropic Filtering: 16
SSAO: ON
Vertical Sync: OFF
DX11 Tessellation: ON
DX11 Advanced Shadows: ON
DX11 MSAA Samples: 1
Benchmark Summary:
Number of frames: 7146
Average Frame Time: 14.7ms
Average FPS: 68.2
[editline]05:48PM[/editline]
anyone know how to:
run a metro 2033 benchmark
get the crysis benchmarks to work with the steam version
[QUOTE=Falubii;24173189]Wat.[/QUOTE]
5850 for 270$, GTX 460 for 230$ (even less with rebates and stuff)
the 460 performs very below or equally for 40$ less
figured out how to get the crysis benchmark working, what i was doing wrong was keeping it from installing punkbuster and comrade so every time i'd go to run the benchmark it'd want to do that which is stupid but whatever
but in the process i downloaded the benchmark tool so i have it doing a lot of runs for me now which should generate some rather useful numbers
[QUOTE=M_B;24531368]figured out how to get the crysis benchmark working, what i was doing wrong was keeping it from installing punkbuster and comrade so every time i'd go to run the benchmark it'd want to do that which is stupid but whatever
but in the process i downloaded the benchmark tool so i have it doing a lot of runs for me now which should generate some rather useful numbers[/QUOTE]
awaiting 1080p, very high, 16xQ CSAA results
[QUOTE=mfb412;24531166]5850 for 270$, GTX 460 for 230$ (even less with rebates and stuff)
the 460 performs very below or equally for 40$ less[/QUOTE]
I guess, at least I bought my 5850 back in May though. I couldn't be happier with it.
[QUOTE=Odellus;24532788]awaiting 1080p, very high, 16xQ CSAA results[/QUOTE]
yeah i couldn't figure out how the fuck to actually see performance results from the benchmark but in the top left corner it gave an average of 50FPS at 1920x1200 very high
without anti-aliasing though.
i rarely play demanding games with anti-aliasing so i rarely bother turning it on, but just for yours and my curiosity i'll run it with that ridiculous level of anti-aliasing
[editline]09:33PM[/editline]
[quote]9/1/2010 9:29:05 PM - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1920x1080, AA=16xQ, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: VeryHigh
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 58.12s, Average FPS: 34.41
Min FPS: 22.34 at frame 157, Max FPS: 46.17 at frame 867
Average Tri/Sec: -8108951, Tri/Frame: -235628
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -3.89
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 48.29s, Average FPS: 41.42
Min FPS: 22.34 at frame 157, Max FPS: 47.56 at frame 849
Average Tri/Sec: -9153035, Tri/Frame: -220977
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -4.15
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 48.05s, Average FPS: 41.62
Min FPS: 22.34 at frame 157, Max FPS: 47.95 at frame 870
Average Tri/Sec: -9094279, Tri/Frame: -218511
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -4.20
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================
<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>
9/1/2010 9:29:05 PM - Vista 64
Run #1- DX10 1920x1080 AA=16xQ, 32 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 41.52[/quote]
[editline]09:34PM[/editline]
i don't know why it says vista as i am on win7 but whatever
[editline]09:47PM[/editline]
ok and here's without anti-aliasing, 1920x1200 instead but i honestly doubt there's that much of a performance difference between 1920x1080 and 1920x1200
[quote]9/1/2010 9:37:50 PM - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1900x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: VeryHigh
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 43.80s, Average FPS: 45.66
Min FPS: 25.91 at frame 143, Max FPS: 57.39 at frame 873
Average Tri/Sec: -16098197, Tri/Frame: -352551
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.60
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 38.54s, Average FPS: 51.89
Min FPS: 25.91 at frame 143, Max FPS: 57.39 at frame 873
Average Tri/Sec: -17529746, Tri/Frame: -337841
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.71
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 38.58s, Average FPS: 51.85
Min FPS: 25.91 at frame 143, Max FPS: 57.39 at frame 873
Average Tri/Sec: -17546208, Tri/Frame: -338426
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.71
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================
<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>
9/1/2010 9:37:50 PM - Vista 64
Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 51.87[/quote]
[QUOTE=M_B;24528236]
Mafia II
[B]Apex PhysX: High[/B]
1920x1200, everything high, no AA
[I][B]min: 3.3 fps
avg: 41.2 fps
max: 166.7 fps
rank: C[/B][/I]
[B]Apex PhysX: Off[/B]
min: 3.8 fps
avg: 101.6 fps
max: 250.0 fps
rank: A
[/QUOTE]
:wtc:
60 FPS dip. How much PhysX is in that game?
[QUOTE=M_B;24535105]yeah i couldn't figure out how the fuck to actually see performance results from the benchmark but in the top left corner it gave an average of 50FPS at 1920x1200 very high
without anti-aliasing though.
i rarely play demanding games with anti-aliasing so i rarely bother turning it on, but just for yours and my curiosity i'll run it with that ridiculous level of anti-aliasing
[editline]09:33PM[/editline]
[editline]09:34PM[/editline]
i don't know why it says vista as i am on win7 but whatever
[editline]09:47PM[/editline]
ok and here's without anti-aliasing, 1920x1200 instead but i honestly doubt there's that much of a performance difference between 1920x1080 and 1920x1200[/QUOTE]
jesus
[editline]06:51AM[/editline]
and I just said 1080p because I assumed that was the max resolution your monitor supported, 1200p is great
[editline]06:52AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;24539227]:wtc:
60 FPS dip. How much PhysX is in that game?[/QUOTE]
it always does that because it doesn't have some sort of delay, so you get the 3 FPS from the level still loading
[QUOTE=Odellus;24539236]
it always does that because it doesn't have some sort of delay, so you get the 3 FPS from the level still loading[/QUOTE]
I meant the Avg. between 'Physx off' and 'PhysX high'
So I guess it would about 20 FPS on a single 460.
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;24539227]:wtc:
60 FPS dip. How much PhysX is in that game?[/QUOTE]
a lot.
"Apex" is pretty much the entie engine apart from AI and visuals
[editline]07:24AM[/editline]
and yeah 1920x1200 is the max res
i would try higher resolutions but lol i can't and even if i could it'd be meaningless to me
[QUOTE=M_B;24542278]a lot.
"Apex" is pretty much the entie engine apart from AI and visuals
[/QUOTE]
There's a physX patch for certain driver versions that increases physx performance incredibly in Mafia II.
I have a single 480 and I don't experience these dips/stutters that people are talking about.
Also, on a different note, how much power would I need to run a second 480? I'm googling around but all I'm getting is dumb replies to threads and stuff like "get 5870s and crossfire them instead hurr" or "2Kilowatts 200 amps derp"
[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;24548115]There's a physX patch for certain driver versions that increases physx performance incredibly in Mafia II.
I have a single 480 and I don't experience these dips/stutters that people are talking about.
Also, on a different note, how much power would I need to run a second 480? I'm googling around but all I'm getting is dumb replies to threads and stuff like "get 5870s and crossfire them hurr" or "2Kilowatts 100 amps derp"[/QUOTE]
about 30 amps per card
[editline]03:26PM[/editline]
29.583... actually
-snip-
[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;24548115]There's a physX patch for certain driver versions that increases physx performance incredibly in Mafia II.[/QUOTE] is it a mafia ii patch or a driver patch? either way that was off of the demo
[quote=FunnyGamer;24548115]I have a single 480 and I don't experience these dips/stutters that people are talking about.[/QUOTE]
i didn't either, the dip he was referring to was the performance comparison, at least, if i understood him properly, anyway.
[editline]12:52PM[/editline]
other than that performance was pretty smooth and consistent, except at the beginning, inside vito's house, i wasn't getting the greatest performance. which is weird, because, generally, and most games follow suit, outdoor environments shouldn't perform better than indoor environments.
[QUOTE=M_B;24548776]is it a mafia ii patch or a driver patch? either way that was off of the demo
i didn't either, the dip he was referring to was the performance comparison, at least, if i understood him properly, anyway.
[editline]12:52PM[/editline]
other than that performance was pretty smooth and consistent, except at the beginning, inside vito's house, i wasn't getting the greatest performance. which is weird, because, generally, and most games follow suit, outdoor environments shouldn't perform better than indoor environments.[/QUOTE]
when you're outside of your house, you're not rendering a lot of the inside, but when you're inside of your house, you're still rendering everything outside. it's just bad optimization
I've had my 460 in for a day, and while I haven't been able to test it how I would like (I don't really have any intensive games). I have been impressed, 30c idle, 50c on CoD4 under heavy load. The fan is loud, but not as loud as I expected.
Need to get my hands on a really intensive game.
[QUOTE=M_B;24548776]is it a mafia ii patch or a driver patch? either way that was off of the demo
[/QUOTE]
It was a driver update. The physX update was labeled as 0.513 and from there you should be able to figure out which drivers you need.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;24549252]I've had my 460 in for a day, and while I haven't been able to test it how I would like (I don't really have any intensive games). I have been impressed, 30c idle, 50c on CoD4 under heavy load. The fan is loud, but not as loud as I expected.
Need to get my hands on a really intensive game.[/QUOTE]
Crysis, the universal benchmark.
[QUOTE=Falubii;24550865]Crysis, the universal benchmark.[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly :buddy: Now to wait until I know I have money spare.
It's funny how a game from 2007 is still the standard for benchmarking high end cards.
[QUOTE=Odellus;24551713]It's funny how a game from 2007 is still the standard for benchmarking high end cards.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, also funny how Crysis 2 is supposed to get 2x the FPS on a DX11 card as Crysis would.
[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;24550645]It was a driver update. The physX update was labeled as 0.513 and from there you should be able to figure out which drivers you need.[/QUOTE]
err yeah the mafia ii demo installs that version
[editline]11:10PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Odellus;24549156]when you're outside of your house, you're not rendering a lot of the inside, but when you're inside of your house, you're still rendering everything outside. it's just bad optimization[/QUOTE]
huh never thought of that.
yeah most games will have the inside of your house and the outdoors as separate maps but i guess that would require a loading screen HEAVEN FORBID
[editline]11:11PM[/editline]
except for gtaiv for obvious reasons
[editline]11:11PM[/editline]
by obvious reasons i mean you can blow all kinds of shit up with an rpg from the sanctity of a balcony and uh
[editline]11:21PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Falubii;24552932]Yeah, also funny how Crysis 2 is supposed to get 2x the FPS on a DX11 card as Crysis would.[/QUOTE]
yeah because crysis 2 is most likely going to look half as good
if you don't recall, they want the same experience on all platforms, gameplay and visuals
[QUOTE=M_B;24561451]
yeah most games will have the inside of your house and the outdoors as separate maps but i guess that would require a loading screen HEAVEN FORBID
[/QUOTE]
You don't have to go through a loading screen to stop rendering certain things.
The source engine does this to for example when a door is open:
[img]http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/images/5/58/Opt_areaportal_open.jpg[/img]
You see the room is rendered. When the door closes it stops rendering:
[img]http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/images/2/2b/Opt_areaportal_closed.jpg[/img]
That is an example of area portals in Source but similar things will apply to most games I guess.
So just because something is not on the screen does not mean it isn't being rendered.. even though with perfect optimization that would be true.
well yes CryEngine 2 is like that as well, but a lot of games still have a short loading sequence there
[QUOTE=LiquidGame;24561682]You don't have to go through a loading screen to stop rendering certain things.
The source engine does this to for example when a door is open:
[img]http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/images/5/58/Opt_areaportal_open.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
That doesn't look right. If there were areaportals surely the models behind the left wall and the door wouldn't be rendered too when the door is open? Been a long time since I've really paid much attention to them.
Source renders a whole area at once generally. It's calculated when the map is compiled in the VIS stage.
If you want to see it for yourself turn cheats on and do mat_wireframe 1
cryengine 2 on the other hand only renders just a tiny bit more than what you can see. so what's behind a wall isn't really being rendered. this creates graphical anomalies, however, where in some scenarios you'll be able to see it, but it won't render, because not enough is visible. typically destruction related
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