People still care about windows 8?
Man, you guys are about as bad as Linux users.
I can't hear you screaming over my Windows 98 desktop and its ability to do this legendary thing called [b]being a functional GUI[/b].
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M8Z-AWWt_nQ/TluOUApxYUI/AAAAAAAAACs/ZUa6pFCaFVk/s1600/DESKTOP_WIN98.JPG[/img]
[QUOTE=MIPS;40025601]People still care about windows 8?
Man, you guys are about as bad as Linux users.
I can't hear you screaming over my Windows 98 desktop and its ability to do this legendary thing called [b]being a functional GUI[/b].
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M8Z-AWWt_nQ/TluOUApxYUI/AAAAAAAAACs/ZUa6pFCaFVk/s1600/DESKTOP_WIN98.JPG[/img][/QUOTE]
i too can go to google and grab a picture and say that im on windows 98
[img]http://toastytech.com/guis/win98desk.gif[/img]
now, what is your argument about windows blue while you are still on xp which will be dead to microsoft in about a years time?
So, if i get this right, it's possible to make Blue look like Win7? I mean, desktop/UI wise? Icons and whatnot?
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;40025664]Eeew Rainy Day, I feel like topping myself again.[/QUOTE]
That's not rainy day.
some of those new apps remind me of holo, a lot
they're very pretty
[QUOTE=Panda X;40025324]Bit of bad news for Start Menu enthusiast:
Microsoft has removed all bits of the old start menu from Explorer and the registry as well as the msstyles.
Which means Start8, StartIsBack, and ClassicShell all do not work in blue.
At least not without major reconstruction and changes.[/QUOTE]
Any idea about ModernMix?
I'd also really like to see the Messages app improved, the Facebook functionality is really quite shit.
[t] http://d.ezhik.me/public/facepunch/windows%20blue/4.jpg[/t]
...I hope they'll allow you to use your own image as the metro background by the time it releases.
I know that you can already do that with unofficial start screen changers, but it really should be there by default.
[QUOTE=MIPS;40025601]People still care about windows 8?
Man, you guys are about as bad as Linux users.
I can't hear you screaming over my Windows 98 desktop and its ability to do this legendary thing called [b]being a functional GUI[/b].
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M8Z-AWWt_nQ/TluOUApxYUI/AAAAAAAAACs/ZUa6pFCaFVk/s1600/DESKTOP_WIN98.JPG[/img][/QUOTE]
I'm sorry what? I was a little busy being a productive and useful asset to some corporation that's paying me big bucks.
Well I'm having a go myself, and the multi-monitor start menu still isn't 100% as I'd like, but its definatly an improvement,
[QUOTE=MIPS;40025601]People still care about windows 8?
Man, you guys are about as bad as Linux users.
I can't hear you screaming over my Windows 98 desktop and its ability to do this legendary thing called [b]being a functional GUI[/b].
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M8Z-AWWt_nQ/TluOUApxYUI/AAAAAAAAACs/ZUa6pFCaFVk/s1600/DESKTOP_WIN98.JPG[/img][/QUOTE]
I'd say Metro is a fully functional GUI. If it were non-functional, I wouldn't be here disagreeing with you, now would I?
I hope Microsoft doesn't fuck up this time. Looks like they are close to moving in the right direction again though. Hopefully they remember that Desktop isn't dead and isn't going to be for a very long time.
[QUOTE=wingless;40026027]Any idea about ModernMix?[/QUOTE]
I see no reason why ModernMix wouldn't still work, though I haven't tested it myself.
OK, I tried ModernMix and it seems to work fine.
The Win 7 interface can be very helpful for desktop users.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;40024783]Multi-monitor optimization:
Start menu doesn't close when you click on a different screen
Metro apps can exist on multiple screens (so up to 6 metro apps with 2 1080p monitors)[/QUOTE]
All I need now is a new computer along with two monitors and a windows 8 install.
[QUOTE=Panda X;40024688]Not only 50:50 split. You can change the size to anything you want:
[images here][/QUOTE]
Ok, I've had my own play with blue now. You can only change it to whatever you want but only with certain apps. IE is one of those, alarms is not.
[QUOTE=wingless;40027823]Ok, I've had my own play with blue now. You can only change it to whatever you want but only with certain apps. IE is one of those, alarms is not.[/QUOTE]
That makes sense, and is a pretty good decision.
At some point this week, I'm shoving this on my really shitty old PC I used for the Windows 8 previews. It's a bit easier than sorting out a VM.
I'm absolutely buzzing for this. They've fixed about 90% of my problems with it. The start screen grid needs to behave a bit more like Windows Phone 8's rather than just sorting apps into columns in the weird way it does for the smaller tiles to work but they've got plenty of time for polish!
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;40024276]This is never going to happen, I would of thought people would be welcoming UI consistency after the last 15 years of the Windows clusterfuck.[/QUOTE]
Why would I welcome an idiotic and horribly broken UI like Metro? It relegates $1000 PCs to the duties of a hideously overpriced tablet or a smart phone. Not only have Microsoft gone insane with smart phone based UI fever, so have Gnome and KDE with their latest incarnations.
I also don't see how the UI of Windows that panned from Windows 95 to Windows 7 was a clusterfuck. Under all of the graphical changes over the years, it remained essentially the same to where you didn't have to relearn the entire system every time a new version of Windows was released.
I've used Windows 8 long enough to know it's a disgusting pile of garbage with the Metro UI, and just about every person I've done work for that had Windows 8 was trying to find a way to get rid of it, or make it actually functional with a start menu while killing Metro. The few that actually liked using it were hipsters that only used their computer for one singular purpose, which was usually playing music.
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;40024420]Or until people bother to get used to it. Give it a couple of weeks and the start menu or start8 seems like a joke in comparison. The metro home screen is like the best of both worlds between desktop shortcuts abuse and a start menu.[/QUOTE]
Uh, no. It doesn't work that way.
Windows 8 is like a completely different OS, you might as well not call it Windows. It's like the huge change from Windows 2.x to 3.x or from 3.x to 95. You don't just "get used to it", you have to relearn everything. You and other people who make the same claims are terribly wrong if you think that everyone can just pick up a radical change like Metro in just a few weeks, or even a few months.
Businesses know this and that's the reason why they're looking for alternatives after Windows 7, because of the cost of re-training everyone to learn the new OS is absurd.
The majority of the OS is still exactly the same as Windows 7. Metro replaced the start menu, nothing else. What else is there to relearn?
please just go
[editline]25th March 2013[/editline]
like it's said in the thread title, they are not removing metro
no matter how hard you complain
windows is ruined forever
switch to linux
[QUOTE=RautaPalli;40030239]The majority of the OS is still exactly the same as Windows 7. Metro replaced the start menu, nothing else. What else is there to relearn?[/QUOTE]
You do realize how ridiculous you sound right?
The start menu is used to control the OS, which is now completely replaced with Metro. Both look and perform completely different, there are zero similar aspects between the start menu and Metro. You also have to learn a bunch of keystrokes and where all of the annoying "hotspots" are on the screen to control metro and applications on the system. This is why you have to re-learn the OS.
It doesn't matter if the underlying OS is the same (which it isn't), if the method to control it changes, so does everything else.
But let's not forget that Windows 8 breaks settings uniformity. You have settings that are in the control panel, but not in Metro. You also have settings that are in Metro, but not in the control panel. And to top it all off, you have the some of the [B]same[/B] settings in both areas that aren't linked together and must be changed individually through two different interfaces to get set the way you want.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;40030266]please just go
[editline]25th March 2013[/editline]
like it's said in the thread title, they are not removing metro
no matter how hard you complain
windows is ruined forever
switch to linux[/QUOTE]
I've been using Linux for nearly a decade, and have migrated all but one of my machines to using it years ago. The only reason I still have Windows on this machine is because of games, but that's changing with the increased adoption of Linux by gaming companies now that Valve is on board. My next PC build will likely be running Linux with a Windows VM for the few things that don't run on Linux.
[QUOTE=bohb;40030369]You do realize how ridiculous you sound right?
The start menu is used to control the OS, which is now completely replaced with Metro. Both look and perform completely different, there are zero similar aspects between the start menu and Metro. You also have to learn a bunch of keystrokes and where all of the annoying "hotspots" are on the screen to control metro and applications on the system. This is why you have to re-learn the OS.
It doesn't matter if the underlying OS is the same (which it isn't), if the method to control it changes, so does everything else.
But let's not forget that Windows 8 breaks settings uniformity. You have settings that are in the control panel, but not in Metro. You also have settings that are in Metro, but not in the control panel. And to top it all off, you have the some of the [B]same[/B] settings in both areas that aren't linked together and must be changed individually through two different interfaces to get set the way you want.[/QUOTE]
You're the one that sounds ridiculous here. The only thing I ever used the start menu for is starting programs. I did that by typing the name of the program and hitting enter. It works exactly the same way in Windows 8. What the hell did you use it for if it changes the way you use the OS by such a huge amount? No similar aspects? They both have a bunch of icons that you click to launch programs. I don't see how the change from a list to a grid can confuse anyone.
The setting thing is pretty silly though, but makes sense after a while. Generally all the settings that are used to change something in the metro environment are in the metro settings, everything else is in the old control panel. There are some exceptions like user management, which can be done in both places. You having to change the same setting in both places for it to take effect is not true, I don't know where you got that from.
I used to have almost as many dicks in my mouth as you bohb, but then I installed Windows 8 on my gaming rig.
It's literally the same as fucking Windows 7. If you're seriously claiming that you spend hours and hours every day staring at the fucking start menu in Windows 7, you have bigger problems than your operating system.
The performance improvements are great, the added functionality is generally awesome, and you spent a maximum of 2 seconds at a time looking at the new start screen thing. You press desktop when you boot up, and then forget about it. When you need an application, it's either pinned, or you press the super-key, type in the name of the application and press enter. Two seconds max.
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[QUOTE=MIPS;40025601]People still care about windows 8?
Man, you guys are about as bad as Linux users.
I can't hear you screaming over my Windows 98 desktop and its ability to do this legendary thing called [b]being a functional GUI[/b].
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M8Z-AWWt_nQ/TluOUApxYUI/AAAAAAAAACs/ZUa6pFCaFVk/s1600/DESKTOP_WIN98.JPG[/img][/QUOTE]
please stop posting, you're welcome to your opinion but not if it's presented in that shit eating holier than thou way
[editline]25th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=bohb;40030369]
I've been using Linux for nearly a decade, and have migrated all but one of my machines to using it years ago. The only reason I still have Windows on this machine is because of games, but that's changing with the increased adoption of Linux by gaming companies now that Valve is on board. My next PC build will likely be running Linux with a Windows VM for the few things that don't run on Linux.[/QUOTE]
ok
[editline]25th March 2013[/editline]
seriously, the start menu was used to launch programs and, in the latter years of its existence, search for programs to launch or files to open. the new start menu does all of those two, three at a push, things. if you're seriously complaining that windows is ruined because you have to change the way you use it slightly (a process that took me about half an hour to fully acclimatise to) then you're legitimately retarded.
as for settings, the metro settings app can be summarised as only containing settings that would be needed by someone who used the metro UI exclusively. once you get that down it becomes second nature to know where the settings are
basically what this comes down to is you all being incredibly spergy and resistant to change - it doesn't fucking matter and a well adjusted person would be able to let it go, get used to it and not complain about it in EVERY SINGLE THREAD ON THE SUBJECT
[QUOTE=RautaPalli;40030443]You're the one that sounds ridiculous here. The only thing I ever used the start menu for is starting programs. I did that by typing the name of the program and hitting enter. It works exactly the same way in Windows 8. What the hell did you use it for if it changes the way you use the OS by such a huge amount? No similar aspects? They both have a bunch of icons that you click to launch programs. I don't see how the change from a list to a grid can confuse anyone.[/QUOTE]
[I]You[/I] use the search function, along with some other people. Yet other people like myself use the mouse to navigate the start menu. The difference between the start menu an Metro is that the start menu doesn't take up the entire screen like Metro, and you don't have to use hotkeys to invoke the start menu.
Metro also uses huge space wasting tiles, the smallest of which are still four times the size of an item in the start menu that uses text and a tiny 16x16 icon besides it. So while you can have everything you need to see in the start menu, Metro not only takes up the entire screen, you have to scroll sideways to see more than just a few things.
[QUOTE=RautaPalli;40030443]The setting thing is pretty silly though, but makes sense after a while. Generally all the settings that are used to change something in the metro environment are in the metro settings, everything else is in the old control panel. There are some exceptions like user management, which can be done in both places. You having to change the same setting in both places for it to take effect is not true, I don't know where you got that from.[/QUOTE]
What was the point of you posting this? You vindicated half of my claims here.
[QUOTE=nikomo;40030483]I used to have almost as many dicks in my mouth as you bohb, but then I installed Windows 8 on my gaming rig.[/QUOTE]
So now you have more dicks in your mouth? Thanks for clearing that up, though that was more information than I needed to know.
[QUOTE=bohb;40031198]-long-[/QUOTE]
some people like metro and some dont, state your opinions and reasons and move along. (its not just you who decides to get into pointless arguments around metro vs start menu for the record)
it seems like this stuff happens literally every 5-8 pages in windows threads, could we please just not?
[QUOTE=usa;40031232]some people like metro and some dont, state your opinions and reasons and move along. (its not just you who decides to get into pointless arguments around metro vs start menu for the record)
it seems like this stuff happens literally every 5-8 pages in windows threads, could we please just not?[/QUOTE]
So people on the other side of the argument (myself) are supposed to be able to post why we don't like X, but we're also supposed to move along and not comment any further when people who like X are allowed to say I have dicks in my mouth or that my argument is pointless?
How about no.
If I don't like something, I'm perfectly entitled to debate it into the ground, whether you like it or not. Nobody is forcing you to read it, so just move along.
:words:
All of you grow the hell up, especially you bhob
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