i don't know what it is, it's frustrating
600? 800? i want amazon links for everything and can't really mail in rebates
this is the worst
i have actual use for a really good computer and there are rich assholes buying workstation pcs just to browse the internet on them (yes i know someone who did this)
it's not really an option, it depends on how much i get from my parents for a new computer -- it's not really as if i can just save a little more
Step one of building a computer is to set a budget.
[editline]8th July 2015[/editline]
So go ask them.
i did, got a fat "we'll talk about it later"
[editline]7th July 2015[/editline]
the disc drive isn't necessarily that important, and you can go even smaller with the SSD -- it's really only going to store windows and premiere/after effects/photoshop
[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48144657]i did, got a fat "we'll talk about it later"
[editline]7th July 2015[/editline]
the disc drive isn't necessarily that important, and you can go even smaller with the SSD -- it's really only going to store windows and premiere/after effects/photoshop[/QUOTE]
Trust me, you don't want a 64GB system drive.
Especially not if you want to install CC too.
Just for the record...
I agree with Chubbs. The FOV advantage isn't what people think it is in CS. It's not about seeing people in your peripheral, because if they are in your peripheral, you played your round incorrectly.
Doesn't stop him from being a gigantic asshole though.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48144655]fine
$754
[URL]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7byZ7P[/URL]
[URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7byZ7P"]PCPartPicker part list[/URL] / [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7byZ7P/by_merchant/"]Price breakdown by merchant[/URL]
[B]CPU:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590"]Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/URL] ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
[B]CPU Cooler:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2"]Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/URL] ($26.98 @ OutletPC)
[B]Motherboard:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah97md3h"]Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/URL] ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
[B]Memory:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d16gxm"]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/URL] ($89.99 @ Newegg)
[B]Storage:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct128mx100ssd1"]Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/URL] ($72.99 @ Newegg)
[B]Storage:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003"]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/URL] ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
[B]Video Card:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42966kr"]EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card[/URL] ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
[B]Case:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr4bl"]Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case[/URL] ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
[B]Optical Drive:[/B] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-optical-drive-gh24nsc0b"]LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer[/URL] ($12.99 @ Newegg)
[B]Total:[/B] $754.70
[I]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/I]
[I]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-07 19:44 EDT-0400[/I][/QUOTE]
Why a Fractal case instead of something like a [url=http://store.antec.com/value-solution/vsk4000e.html]budget Antec one that looks basically the same[/url]? Why have an optical drive at all?
620W sounds a [I]little[/I] overkill.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48144714][url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9ByZ7P]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9ByZ7P/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590]Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah97md3h]Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d16gxm]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($89.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct128mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($72.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42966kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card[/url] ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc9011052ww]Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($54.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg620m]Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-optical-drive-gh24nsc0b]LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($12.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $767.71
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-07 19:52 EDT-0400[/i]
[editline]8th July 2015[/editline]
LIME SEE THIS POST[/QUOTE]
Holy shit that case is hilariously ugly, and STILL more expensive on newegg than the one I linked.
Regarding the PSU thing, that's basically the same specs as my PC has (except I have a GTX 760) and I'm on a 450W one. 620 is definitely overkill.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48144777]saves buying another psu if you upgrade to an i7 later on the line and want to over clock or shove another 960 in there
and that antec case is too plain but sand castle is free to make any changes to it
personally i hate the spec 3 but it does the job tbh[/QUOTE]
Is there really such a thing as "too plain"?
I wonder what Amiga thinks.
i remember back in 2011 when he hated everything apple and was of the opinion that matte black was the end all be all of design
[QUOTE=PredGD;48140957][t]http://i.cubeupload.com/b6q8hZ.jpg[/t]
I did it! OS X and Windows now peacefully coexist![/QUOTE]
Please tell how. My hackintosh is pretty much 100% working but I can't for the life of me figure out how to dual boot on one ssd.
there are a couple of things i could maybe pull off, i'll get back to you guys if either pan out
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48144824]that antec case to me is just not my taste limejet
im sorry bby[/QUOTE]
yeah well i hate u now :c
[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48144818]...the opinion that matte black was the end all be all of design[/QUOTE]
Beige will make a comeback eventually, mark my words.
[editline]e[/editline]
ow his merge
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;48144853]No, a reserved design is much more classy.
When you have to go nuts with gloss & embellishments you are trying too hard. Basically look at every Samsung smartphone ever.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Stand out by not needing to. If there's some sort of flair, it should be a single focus point that sort of... summarizes the whole point of the design.
Sort of the philosophy behind the FAB in Material Design. A flat environment with a single-hovering dash of colour that represents the main action of the current screen.
[url=https://www.google.com/design/spec/components/buttons-floating-action-button.html]Incidentally, I really like the design document for it.[/url]
[editline]agh[/editline]
ow my merge
I'm still fuckign salty that that was a april fools joke.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;48144708]Just for the record...
I agree with Chubbs. The FOV advantage isn't what people think it is in CS. It's not about seeing people in your peripheral, because if they are in your peripheral, you played your round incorrectly.
Doesn't stop him from being a gigantic asshole though.[/QUOTE]
Being able to see more cannot be a disadvantage. If you render at 1440x1080 on a 1920x1080 screen, you are only handicapping yourself. Letterboxed or stretched, doesn't matter, you're still having less meaningful data being pushed through your eyes. (Consider the game+player system from an information perspective - you have fixed bandwidth of information going to the player, from video, audio and perhaps rumble, and coming from the player via controller/keyboard/mouse/whatever. In this analysis, only the number of pixels that come out of the renderer matter, not the number that are displayed)
The stretched visuals being more prominent *could* be important if your eyesight is too bad to pick up a meaningful gameplay element on-screen. However, that would require a single-pixel-wide object to be a notable gameplay object - something you have to be aware of and respond to. Since we're talking about Counter-Strike and not some hidden-object adventure game, I think we can safely say that there are no such things.
Since it cannot ever be a disadvantage to be able to see more, even if the only cases where it is an advantage are rare and contrived (and I can contrive quite a few), it is on the whole an advantage. If you already have a 16:9 screen, it thus makes no sense to run it at 4:3. Likewise for 21:9 - I wouldn't expect the advantage to be worth going out to buy such a screen, but if you have one, running it at native aspect would be the only rational choice.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;48144906][img]http://legitreviews.com/images/reviews/news/900dseb_480.png[/img]
We need the 900D in beige.[/QUOTE]
real talk, I really want a tower that I can fit an 8" floppy reader in.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;48144927]Being able to see more cannot be a disadvantage. If you render at 1440x1080 on a 1920x1080 screen, you are only handicapping yourself. Letterboxed or stretched, doesn't matter, you're still having less meaningful data being pushed through your eyes. (Consider the game+player system from an information perspective - you have fixed bandwidth of information going to the player, from video, audio and perhaps rumble, and coming from the player via controller/keyboard/mouse/whatever. In this analysis, only the number of pixels that come out of the renderer matter, not the number that are displayed)
The stretched visuals being more prominent *could* be important if your eyesight is too bad to pick up a meaningful gameplay element on-screen. However, that would require a single-pixel-wide object to be a notable gameplay object - something you have to be aware of and respond to. Since we're talking about Counter-Strike and not some hidden-object adventure game, I think we can safely say that there are no such things.
Since it cannot ever be a disadvantage to be able to see more, even if the only cases where it is an advantage are rare and contrived (and I can contrive quite a few), it is on the whole an advantage. If you already have a 16:9 screen, it thus makes no sense to run it at 4:3. Likewise for 21:9 - I wouldn't expect the advantage to be worth going out to buy such a screen, but if you have one, running it at native aspect would be the only rational choice.[/QUOTE]
I know what you're saying, but simply that CS isn't a watch and hunt game. I'm saying FOV and peripheral has a lot less to do with winning, like in games where there are enemies everywhere, compared to being in the right position at the right time, looking in the right place.
In my experience, being comfortable significantly outweighs any theoretical or statistical advantage resolution of FOV might have. The far sides of the screen make sense if you're in a faster paced game where it's about reaction time from having no idea where enemies are, but probably 70-80% of winning a CS match is making predictions of where they are and you should already be facing that way. FOV isn't an advantage in that scenario, though that's not to say it won't be useful in some fringe cases.
As for the resolution stuff, It's been explained to me that they purposefully make the game low res and aliased so that small changes result in larger physical changes on screen. You notice motion more with less pixels, compared to a very smooth yet subtle change. I personally play on 1440p, max settings with 8xCSAA. Because that's what I [I]enjoy[/I] playing on.
But your approach to the argument I think isn't as relevant as it might be to another game or another genre where map control and predictions aren't as important as just looking at the scene as carefully as possible as perhaps with other larger titles.
Again, you're not really wrong, I think it's just that your reasoning doesn't have as much weight in this scenario.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48144777]saves buying another psu [B]if you upgrade to an i7 later on the line and want to over clock[/B] or shove another 960 in there
and that antec case is too plain but sand castle is free to make any changes to it
personally i hate the spec 3 but it does the job tbh[/QUOTE]
An i7 doesn't magically take like, 150 extra watts compared to an i5. We're not talking about a P4 Extreme here. Dual video cards would take some extra juice, though if you want more GPU performance in 2-3 years, buying a second old card doesn't make sense when you could get a brand new card that has the performance of two of the old ones SLIed while using less power and putting out less heat.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;48144927]Being able to see more cannot be a disadvantage. If you render at 1440x1080 on a 1920x1080 screen, you are only handicapping yourself. Letterboxed or stretched, doesn't matter, you're still having less meaningful data being pushed through your eyes. (Consider the game+player system from an information perspective - you have fixed bandwidth of information going to the player, from video, audio and perhaps rumble, and coming from the player via controller/keyboard/mouse/whatever. In this analysis, only the number of pixels that come out of the renderer matter, not the number that are displayed)
The stretched visuals being more prominent *could* be important if your eyesight is too bad to pick up a meaningful gameplay element on-screen. However, that would require a single-pixel-wide object to be a notable gameplay object - something you have to be aware of and respond to. Since we're talking about Counter-Strike and not some hidden-object adventure game, I think we can safely say that there are no such things.
Since it cannot ever be a disadvantage to be able to see more, even if the only cases where it is an advantage are rare and contrived (and I can contrive quite a few), it is on the whole an advantage. If you already have a 16:9 screen, it thus makes no sense to run it at 4:3. Likewise for 21:9 - I wouldn't expect the advantage to be worth going out to buy such a screen, but if you have one, running it at native aspect would be the only rational choice.[/QUOTE]
Go ahead and set your FOV to 180 degrees horizontal.
Yeah you'll see more, but unless you're on triple monitors, you're going to hate it. And suck.
And subjective preference is a thing. Objective technical measures of quality don't always inform it.
Media encoders will sacrifice SNR for psychovisual improvements. An overdriven guitar amp technically reduces SNR, but you're not gonna tell musicians to stop using those. Even glitch art has its fans.
And similarly, playing games on a widescreen monitor, at its native resolution and aspect ratio, using ~74° vertical FOV is better than what Chubbs is doing by objective technical measures, as well as what most people happen to prefer, that doesn't stop her from [I]just not liking it[/I], for whatever reason.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;48144974]t-that tower is not to scale r-right
that floppy has disappeared[/QUOTE]
It doesn't seem too far off tbh. I have a 900D, and this thing is massive.
Who gives a fuck about FOV anyway, it's absolutely fucking pointless in the big picture lmao
don't get too invested in building me a pc -- my parents own a small business that relates with a much larger company, might be able to land a discount that makes buying a prebuilt workstation actually fairly priced
do a fresh install of windows 7/8/10 and i'd be doing pretty good
Beige is pretty much crap in any context. Beige computers, beige cars, beige houses, beige underpants, it's all garbage.
Matte black stuff looks decent
I like that dark blue color you see on those smart card reader keyboards that show up at thrift stores all the time
I don't know if i should change my Anti Virus software but i have seen some Test that show Vipre Internet Security is bad. I use malwarebytes as well, Are there any good free Anti- virus/malware Software?
If I could build my own computer case, I think I'd build the entire thing out of brushed aluminum, maybe with large glass panels. Or maybe make the whole thing out of glass, tinted glass panels, except for whatever fittings you absolutely need to make it work.
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