[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47909668]Wait and get a z97 and 4790k.
[editline]9th June 2015[/editline]
WHOA NOT SO FAST~[/QUOTE]
Any recommendations for the mobo? Not so sure about ASRock now, but ASUS SABERTOOTH is a bit too expensive (€250 for a mobo...) Imo
[QUOTE=Cyberuben;47909661]Guys what to do:
My mobo shorted, fireworks and all (atleast, I guess, it has no visual damage and cpu and psu work fine with another mobo, and the 'shorted' mobo stinks like shit), and I need to get my PC working again.
I can do two things:
- buy another ASRock970 Extreme3 R2.0, or hope warranty covers it
- push my luck for in-store credit and buy an Z97 mobo and i7-4790k
Depending on warranty, solutions will cost me €80 or ~€500 respectively. I am planning on upgrading to Intel within a few weeks / months anyway (full new build) but I can either spend money and spend more money later again or just do it right the first time. The only problem is cashflow, I don't have it yet, but I will soon...[/QUOTE]
If you've been getting by on AMD so far, do you [I]really[/I] need an (overclockable) i7? i5-4690(K), Xeon E3-1231v3 and a regular 4790 are all great options.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;47909765]If you've been getting by on AMD so far, do you [I]really[/I] need an (overclockable) i7? i5-4690(K), Xeon E3-1231v3 and a regular 4790 are all great options.[/QUOTE]
I do a lot of programming and like to use SIMD and such, plus I could use the hyperthreading in certain situations. I'm getting tired of AMD's thermal throttling and terrible performance in all games I actively play. I have a Scythe Mugen 3 cooler, MX4 thermal paste and I'm sure I dust my PC out regularly, but GTA keeps causing it to throttle, Train Simulator runs shit and don't even get me started on Arma 2/3.
I'm really sure I want to move away from AMD and if I can choose between an i7 and i5, I'd rather go for the i7.
I just want to take a moment and realize openly how thankful I am for the internet. The "Sword and Scale" podcast is one of THE most interesting podcasts I've ever listened to.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47910004]Mail server migrations are not fun.[/QUOTE]
We're scared to restart ours because we're not sure it will turn back on.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47907158]Developing on Windows is shit anyway.[/QUOTE]
How is this even relevant, it has nothing to do with what platform you develop on, just on what you can target.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47910125]Try getting a minimal development environment up and running on Windows when all you have handy is a cheap & nasty laptop and the production environment just shat itself. See just how much fun that is.[/QUOTE]
In what way is this related to what i posted?
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47910288]Windows is a Cement shoe for developing software for anything but Windows, when shit hits the fan you will be left dicking around trying to collect dependencies, libraries and coaxing cygwin into actually working.
If your job depends on it, do not use it. I[B]ts simply not adequately tooled for most development work.[/B][/QUOTE]
so you're complaining that trying to use windows to do non-windows tasks doesn't work
who FUCKING KNEW
[editline]8th June 2015[/editline]
how is not having a proper development environment designed to work with your prod env windows' fault
Help.
Amiga is going off the hook.
basically you're complaining that you can't use a hammer as a socket wrench
even though hammers and socket wrenches are completely different tools and nowhere in the hammer user guide did it state that you could use a hammer as a socket wrench
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47910288]Windows is a Cement shoe for developing software for anything but Windows, when shit hits the fan you will be left dicking around trying to collect dependencies, libraries and coaxing cygwin into actually working.
If your job depends on it, do not use it. Its simply not adequately tooled for most development work.[/QUOTE]
Take a chill pill, I haven't even said anything about windows as a development platform.
Say, when I installed my own copy of Windows 8.1 Pro on my Asus laptop that only had regular Windows 8, would that void warranty?
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47910716]Nope.[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna print this and take it with me when I'm going to the store.
[QUOTE=Akasori;47910743]I'm gonna print this and take it with me when I'm going to the store.[/QUOTE]
I have it on [i]extremely[/i] good authority from a... colleague... of mine...
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47910770]Are OEM's still shitty about you nuking the recovery partition?[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah that too. I nuked the hard drive and installed an os that wasn't provided (but is supported) by the manufacturer.
Though I've had threw laptop "repaired" twice already and they reinstalled their crappy Windows 8 on it both times.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47910125]the production environment just shat itself.[/QUOTE]
that doesn't happen unless you're a shitty programmer to begin with
stop being a shitty programmer
[QUOTE=Ezhik;47904642]Just installed Chrome Dev, and it seems that Google got rid of the #enable-new-avatar-menu flag.
So there's no way to disable that pesky name in the corner for Chrome Dev, and it's only a matter of time before it's gone from the normal version. Fuck.[/QUOTE]
Apparently this shit's intentional: [url]https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=451920[/url]
What the fuck Google?
[QUOTE=gman003-main;47908717]Dude, the game I started working on after I canceled NADC is now canceled. I'm not even sure if I still have the code to it.[/QUOTE]
So no???
what the hell is Google's boner for making anything and everything multi user anyway
it's pretty much exclusively single-user devices these days, and even on the few cases where it isn't we already have multi user implemented in the operating system itself
[QUOTE=lavacano;47911574]what the hell is Google's boner for making anything and everything multi user anyway
it's pretty much exclusively single-user devices these days, and even on the few cases where it isn't we already have multi user implemented in the operating system itself[/QUOTE]
they are sneaking in chrome os on your computer
Spoiler alert: if you use Windows 8 or later, it's already pretty much snuck in nearly in its entirety anyway.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;47911600]they are sneaking in chrome os on your computer[/QUOTE]
Then explain why Android is multiuser, even on phones.
Hell at this point if Google made condoms they'd probably make them multiuser.
[QUOTE=lavacano;47912157]Then explain why Android is multiuser, even on phones.
Hell at this point if Google made condoms they'd probably make them multiuser.[/QUOTE]
Surely multiuser is a good thing to have, it doesn't harm you if you don't use it, but if you need it and don't have it, that's problematic. In addition, I have two Google accounts, being able to log into both is pretty helpful.
[QUOTE=ben1066;47912208]Surely multiuser is a good thing to have, it doesn't harm you if you don't use it, but if you need it and don't have it, that's problematic. In addition, I have two Google accounts, being able to log into both is pretty helpful.[/QUOTE]
I think lavacano meant multi-user profiles on phones, not multiple Google accounts on the same profile.
[QUOTE=ben1066;47912208]Surely multiuser is a good thing to have, it doesn't harm you if you don't use it, but if you need it and don't have it, that's problematic. In addition, I have two Google accounts, being able to log into both is pretty helpful.[/QUOTE]
It's mostly annoying because (I'm assuming) it's put front and centre with no way to hide it if you don't need it. The first thing I do whenever mozilla adds some pointless feature is hide the button so it isn't eating space
[editline]9th June 2015[/editline]
Also ignore the clock, mobile
[QUOTE=lavacano;47912157]Then explain why Android is multiuser, even on phones.
Hell at this point if Google made condoms they'd probably make them multiuser.[/QUOTE]
It's worse than that. Every android application runs as a separate user in a separate VM.
[QUOTE=kaze4159;47912452]It's mostly annoying because (I'm assuming) it's put front and centre with no way to hide it if you don't need it. The first thing I do whenever mozilla adds some pointless feature is hide the button so it isn't eating space
[editline]9th June 2015[/editline]
Also ignore the clock, mobile[/QUOTE]
well it's not exactly slapped in your face, i will admit that, but it's very prominent, and there's no way to remove the button and pretend the feature isn't there
[t]http://jesusfuck.me/di/ZEUL/screenshot-2015-06-09-00-53-42.png[/t]
(sorry about the size, I used [t[b][/b]], i dunno why the fuck it ain't thumbing)
every time i look at my lock screen or open my notifications i see whatever i set as my avatar (which i put as a selfie because i look damn good in that selfie, but could theoretically use anything since it doesn't pull from my google account for some reason)
and my annoyance isn't because of any direct inconvenience to me, but the fact that phones have it at all, since even if you share a phone with someone you're not going to make a separate user for them because it'd be tedious to switch between them
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47912493]There's not a lot you can do when a project is underfunded, overscoped and management actively has you trashing the codebase.[/QUOTE]
Sabotage it.
They're going to fire you for all of that anyway, despite it being their fault in the first place. Nothing you can do about that, management is entirely staffed by shitheads, its a universal constant. Best you can do is make sure they don't have anything to salvage when they inevitably fuck you over.
[editline]9th June 2015[/editline]
and hey maybe if they lose enough money from their meddling they'll learn to fucking knock that shit off
[QUOTE=Cyberuben;47909887]I do a lot of programming and like to use SIMD and such, plus I could use the hyperthreading in certain situations. I'm getting tired of AMD's thermal throttling and terrible performance in all games I actively play. I have a Scythe Mugen 3 cooler, MX4 thermal paste and I'm sure I dust my PC out regularly, but GTA keeps causing it to throttle, Train Simulator runs shit and don't even get me started on Arma 2/3.
I'm really sure I want to move away from AMD and if I can choose between an i7 and i5, I'd rather go for the i7.[/QUOTE]
Sure, does it have to be a 4790K though?
Xeon E3-1231v3 is the cheapest Haswell quadcore with HT. The 4790 provides marginal performance benefits and an iGPU for an extra 50€. The 4790K adds overclocking capability and more marginal performance benefits for another 50€.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47912645]You will not be the first one to have this argument.
Even I would still go for at least a 4790 or a 4790K over the Xeon. Sure it's cheaper and offers very similar if not equal performance but the iGPU is very useful if his GPU cracks or he has to RMA the GPU.
I'd rather have an iGPU and a functional machine rather than a dead one. Hence I'd pay more and get the 4790/4790K[/QUOTE]
Well, I'd like to do some overclocking since I play some games that require good single core performance, Train Simulator 2015 being one of those games. It fully maxes out one core, and having an ability to overclock would be really beneficial. And yes, the iGPU is useful too.
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