• CIPWTTKT&GC v0x24 (v36): That Ain't Thermal Paste
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[QUOTE=brandonsh;48006676]Oh man, how about a Blackmagic (pocket?) Cinema Camera? Those things look so rad. [/QUOTE] Mounting things on it is a hassle, you'd need a cage just like for DSLRs to really have it function well. The battery life is pretty shit with what battery it uses but the batteries are cheap and you can hook it up to external batteries easily.
[QUOTE=garychencool;48008902]This video comes to mind.. [video=youtube;x1MDLcseF1E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1MDLcseF1E[/video] TL;DW: Canon 1080p DSLR video is a soft pile of shit Oh and the Sony FS700 outputs better, cleaner low light video than a DSLR, and it doesn't look soft or a heap of shit.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=B!N4RY;48008920]This is the biggest pile of bullshit I have ever heard about video resolution This guy's saying the camera "doesn't capture 1080P" because the video quality isn't as sharp as the GH4 lmao[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=B!N4RY;48008951]Everytime I see Canon announce a new DSLR, there's always a wave of amatures spewing shit along the lines of "wow what a shit camera because it doesn't record videos 8k resolution @ 1000fps, Canon's going downhill". Hmmm I wonder why Canon's not including those high end video features, is it MAYBE because these are meant to be STILL cameras????? People really can't seem to get that point across their mind.[/QUOTE] It's because DSLR's, especially Canon's actually don't capture 1080p. They capture something like 1750 by 980 lines or something due to line skipping. The Result is Upscaled, soft video with lots of aliasing or Moire. Smaller sensors can be scanned with less lines skipping, if any, and can provide a much sharper image for the same resolution. So him saying it doesn't capture 1080p because it's not as sharp is because it really doesn't capture 1080p. Though even if it did, it would probably seem soft because of the sampling of the sensor and moire. Him capturing 4k and downscaling is half fair half unfair. The sensor is able to sample 4k off the sensor in real time, thus providing better clarity than the 5d Mark III which I believe can't do anything over 1080p except in "RAW" which is maybe 2.5k. DSLR video is historically just absolutely fucking shit in terms of sharpness and actual resolution. But it has great skintone, dynamic range and low light performance due to it being a photo sensor. But these days you could and probably shoot look elsewhere if your concern is video. Panasonic has a GH4k sensor powered camera with a regular cinema camera layout. I whine about Canon's DSLR offerings because these days they are almost always behind other companies. Seems every new release maybe has 1-2 new features and the buttons are moved around. Especially Sony has been making Canon look like lazy engineers with their camera releases.
[QUOTE=Digimutant;48006616]It's not just fiddling or expenses, it's also the form factor it is as well. Looks uncomfortable imo.[/QUOTE] DSLRs are built with ergonomics for taking photos, not holding it to take video for long periods of time. [QUOTE=brandonsh;48006630] It's a shame Canon has a bit of a monopoly on consumer DSLRs, I'd love to see more community modifications like this.[/QUOTE] Canon was kinda the first to do it and it really exploded. Now they are sandbagging on the DSLR video side when many other cameras do better video. Although they now have the Cinema series of camcorders that still use the same EF mount but has way more video features both physically and in software. The video output from the C100, C300 and C500 camcorders and the 1Dc are much better than the 5D mark 3.
so uh I'm still stuck with 2010 level hardware for everything else I should still see decent speeds with SATA 3gb/s, yes?
[QUOTE=Digimutant;48006464]I'm still gonna attempt to invest one of those Canon Legria G30s. And then if I save up another £500 from my £600, I'll buy one of those pro-grade Sony [B]MiniDV HDV [/B]camcorders.[/QUOTE] It's 2015. Sure those cameras are cheap now but recording onto SD cards will make your life a million times easier than tape.
That and there is only so much you can do with 1440x1080 25mbps Mpeg2.
[QUOTE=Lyokanthrope;48009213]so uh I'm still stuck with 2010 level hardware for everything else I should still see decent speeds with SATA 3gb/s, yes?[/QUOTE] As long as you don't attach SSDs on those SATA ports, then you're fine.
An SSD on SATA 3gb/s still isn't anything shabby.
[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48006983] there's really no point in not getting a 5d unless you're going black magic or even red[/QUOTE] What? Anyways. It depends on what you're recording video on, etc. but there's many reasons on getting a 5D mark 3 over a Blackmagic or RED. The accessories are a hell lot cheaper and smaller. It doesn't mean they are as great but it's what you're considering when you're picking equipment to shoot with. [QUOTE=Digimutant;48006698]Was looking at them but I'm not terribly sure. Whenever I want a video camera, it always needs a manual focus ring, touchscreen and a viewfinder with optional lens hood. If a DSLR had a mount to behave like a camcorder then sure I'd buy it.[/QUOTE] You could get something like this [url]http://shop.panasonic.com/cameras-and-camcorders/camcorders/HC-X920K.html#start=1&cgid=camcorders[/url] It has a ring near the lens where you can use it to manually adjust focus, aperture, and probably some other things. There's a bunch of older models that have this ring. Some Sony camcorders have a smaller ring dial which works in similar ways.
[QUOTE=Levelog;48009305]An SSD on SATA 3gb/s still isn't anything shabby.[/QUOTE] You'll just get like half the performance though. Of course if you don't mind that penalty, you can use it.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;48009338]You'll just get like half the performance though. Of course if you don't mind that penalty, you can use it.[/QUOTE] Half? Nah, new good SSD's are somewhere in the 500mbps range.
[QUOTE=Levelog;48009340]Half? Nah, new good SSD's are somewhere in the 500mbps range.[/QUOTE] New SSDs can easily exceed 550-600MByte/s of IO, but it's capped by SATA-II's 3GBit/s bus. Thus you can only effectively have up to about 375 Megabyte/s of transfer speed on a SATA-II port, which is still pretty far off from its full potential.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;48009356]New SSDs can easily exceed 550-600MByte/s of IO, but it's capped by SATA-II's 3GBit/s bus. Thus you can only effectively have up to about 375 Megabyte/s of transfer speed on a SATA-II port, which is still pretty far off from its full potential.[/QUOTE] The fastest SSD's are 550 to 560. 375 isn't nearly half.
[QUOTE=Levelog;48009376]The fastest SSD's are 550 to 560. 375 isn't nearly half.[/QUOTE] Is that your point?
[QUOTE=Brt5470;48009380]Is that your point?[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'm saying 375 is still damn fast and binary's post was an exaggeration.
[QUOTE=Warship;48006905]DSLRs are just often impractical for video. Shitty audio, 4GB limit, no HDMI out while keeping the built-in LCD on, so on... [/QUOTE] The mics in the DSLRs have gotten better at least, now it's Stereo with less shit internal mics. The 4GB limit only applied to older DSLRs, for the past 2 years you can continuously record on the newer DSLR models. HDMI out while the built-in LCD screen was on was a Canon DSLR and some other cameras kind of thing. The good old GH2 was able to do both outputs without issues. [QUOTE=B!N4RY;48006919]That's why you don't buy a budget DSLR for video. Higher end SLR like the 5D family have much better video quality and features for videos. If you're serious about video, you shouldn't even be using a DSLR to be honest. DSLR is simply not designed for professional videos.[/QUOTE] Get an actual camcorder, it will have a ton of things you'd want for actual video work. That includes XLR inputs because 3.5mm audio sucks and DSLR pre-amps also suck. Although it's not designed for pro video, you can kinda make it work but some solutions are pretty hacky.
i just made like a hundred gold-sized dvdp avatars
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;48008963]The way I see it is DSLR's video feature is just there to accomodate casual uses. You shouldn't even be getting a DSLR if you're planning to use it for serious filming in the first place.[/QUOTE] People also forget Canon has a video camera line they don't want to make redundant. (EOS C-series)
[QUOTE=wingless;48009710]People also forget Canon has a video camera line they don't want to make redundant. (EOS C-series)[/QUOTE]The Canon C-line is priced beyond ridiculous.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;48009769]The Canon C-line is priced beyond ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Yes, and why would they make a product that's better that's vastly cheaper? Business 101.
[QUOTE=wingless;48009710]People also forget Canon has a video camera line they don't want to make redundant. (EOS C-series)[/QUOTE] They realized that people really wanted to use their photographic lenses for video after their 5D mark 2 was so popular so they made a DSLR-like camcorder line that's actually pretty good. It's the proper mix of DSLR portability, with traditional camcorder features mashed into each other both physically and software wise. Sony tried to do something like this starting with the VG10 with a full frame model but it never really took off. The handle part on the C100/300/500 added XLR inputs which was actually pretty smart and was one of the reason why it got the edge over the Sony versions of the DSLR-like camcorders.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;48009769]The Canon C-line is priced beyond ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Unlike with Nikon, you are getting what you pay for. :^) Dare I also consider to you Sony or Panasonic's line of video cameras?
The Panasonic HMC150 is amazing to use, I hope the DVX200 will be just as awesome but better video quality of course.
Why does my macbook lie to me. It says I have all 5 dots in the WiFi thingy yet I keep timing out with large ping spikes when in this room? The dots never change, it either works or it doesn't. Any other device gets 2 dots in this room but my Macbook gets 5 because it's better? Do they take me for an idiot?
What's currently the best anti-virus that I can put on a computer illiterate user's computer?
[QUOTE=Confuzzed Otto;48010126]Why does my macbook lie to me. It says I have all 5 dots in the WiFi thingy yet I keep timing out with large ping spikes when in this room? The dots never change, it either works or it doesn't. Any other device gets 2 dots in this room but my Macbook gets 5 because it's better? Do they take me for an idiot?[/QUOTE] Mine does exactly the same. It can display perfect signal even though everything constantly times out, and having 3/4 bars is like the equivalent of trying to speak to someone through concrete. If I use Windows on it it'll usually not show full signal even if I'm in the same room as the router
[QUOTE=Warship;48010206]What's currently the best anti-virus that I can put on a computer illiterate user's computer?[/QUOTE] Avast. HTTPS scanning off, gaming mode on, hardened mode agressive.
Woah merge
[QUOTE=magravn;48010239]Mine does exactly the same. It can display perfect signal even though everything constantly times out, and having 3/4 bars is like the equivalent of trying to speak to someone through concrete. If I use Windows on it it'll usually not show full signal even if I'm in the same room as the router[/QUOTE] Still undersell > oversell
[QUOTE=brandonsh;48006630]It's a shame Canon has a bit of a monopoly on consumer DSLRs, I'd love to see more community modifications like this.[/QUOTE] pfft yeah nah when i was out shopping both times, nikon had way better cameras (specs etc) than canon right now i have a d5300 and i'm really happy with it (except i very rarely use it :v:) 1080p 60fps video with a mic in port is pretty nice, canon didn't even come close in that price range [vid]http://fat.gfycat.com/PracticalTidyHorse.webm[/vid]
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