• CIPWTTKT&GC v0x24 (v36): That Ain't Thermal Paste
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[QUOTE=Levelog;48061668]Jesus Christ people have actually purchased those? No offense.[/QUOTE] it was a surprise christmas gift because i needed a laptop -- if it were up to me i would have gotten a better model, but what can you really do?
[QUOTE=Levelog;48061668]Jesus Christ people have actually purchased those? No offense.[/QUOTE] My mum got a ThinkPad Edge E325 once, with an E-350 APU ThinkPad in name only, and sluggish as hell in everything. But the battery lasts forever.
So, when I first built this PC a couple years ago, it was at the bottom dollar. My old one caught on fire, and i needed a new one. Over time I've upgraded everything. CPU, ram, gpu, psu, everything except one thing. The mobo. Its a crap ecs one that foes not support CPU over clocking. It NEEDS to be an fm2 socket, and a micro mobo. My current mobo is an ECS A55F2-M4, so i need anything better than that. Any suggestions before i start looking for myself?
A10-5800k, best I can get for this socket.
Here's an hour of physical pain! [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGYcNcFhctc[/media]
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128689[/url] How's this one look?
Fuck, nevermind. I looked in my bank and have less than I thought. Being jobless sucks.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;48060100]Modern processors are too complex for a simple count of how many "cores" they have to be meaningful. Let's look at the smallest part that cannot be subdivided and still be a full processor core, for AMD's and Intel's current desktop microarchitecture. An Intel Haswell "core" contains: 1 instruction fetch unit (256 bits/clock) 4 instruction decoders (1 complex, 3 simple) 8 execution ports 4 integer ALUs, 2 FPUs, 2 vector units, 4 load/store units, and several miscellaneous processing units 1x 32KiB L1D cache (64B/c, 4c latency), 1x 32KiB L1I cache (64B/c, 4c latency), 1x 1536B uop cache, 1x 256KiB L2 cache (64B/c, 11c latency) Pipeline length: 19 stages, 14 if uop cached A Haswell "core" can physically run two threads simultaneously, sharing resources. This is disabled on many processors (most Core i5, Pentium and Celeron processors). An AMD Bulldozer "module" contains: 1 instruction fetch unit (256 bits/clock) 4 instruction decoders (all identical) 6 execution ports 4 integer ALUs, 2 FPUs, 2 vector units, 4 load/store units 2x 16KiB L1D cache (32B/c?, 4c latency), 2x 64KiB L1I cache (32B/c?, 4c latency), 1x 2MiB L2 cache (32B/c?, 21c latency) Pipeline length: 20+ stages (AMD has categorically refused to specifically say how much) A Bulldozer "module" is sold as two physical cores. You can disable the ability to run a second thread on the module in software; this sometimes helps performance in very linear code. Overall, an Intel core is about the same as an AMD module on raw processing bandwidth. However, there are several other factors. Bulldozer features the same narrow L1D$ as Haswell, but has a slower and less responsive L2$. So whenever it stalls on a read from L2 cache, it wastes about twice as many clock cycles as Haswell. The L3 cache is even worse - 65 cycles latency versus 25 on Intel. The other inefficiency is on branch mispredict. On very old processors, whenever a core hit a branch instruction (if X then Y else Z), it would stall until the result was computed, then continue from there. Modern (meaning post-1990 or so, can't remember exactly when we got this on desktops) CPUs will take a guess as to which way the branch will go, and keep the pipeline going while it computes the actual result. If it guessed right (which it can usually do about 95% of the time), it just keeps on going. If it guessed wrong, it wipes out every instruction that it was running in the meantime, and starts over. On Haswell, that's between 14 and 19 stages being flushed. On Bulldozer, that's 20-30. The longer pipeline made it somewhat easier for them to hit such high clock speeds, but it had the cost of a higher penalty for mispredicting a branch instruction - and from studies, Bulldozer's branch predictor is actually worse than Intel's. [B]All told, I'd estimate a Bulldozer-based chip needs to be clocked about 30% higher than a Haswell-based one in order to get similar performance.[/B] The final issue is power efficiency. Intel has a major advantage in fabrication technology, and so their processors need far less power for similar performance, and they don't need to push their power consumption as high to get good clock speeds. AMD, meanwhile, is way behind on fab tech, so they're less efficient at similar clock speeds, and they've been pushing their cores to the absolute limit to try to match Intel on compute performance. Power consumption goes up exponentially with increased clock speeds, so AMD chips suck down far more power than Intel ones (200W vs 90W for some comparable chips). The overall amount of electricity is negligible in the grand scheme of things, at least for a home user, but every watt of power it uses becomes a watt of heat, and that heat has to be removed. More heat means more fans, and more fans means more noise. So it's a simple, inescapable fact that an AMD-based computer will be louder than a comparable Intel-based computer.[/QUOTE] I should stop looking at GHz and cores and look at all of those little things when I'm buying a new CPU or the CPU on the laptop.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48062252]PCI-E 4.0 in 2017 can we even fucking fully use PCI-E-2.0?[/QUOTE] Yes. PCI-E 3, even. Quite easily.
Since we were on the topic of ISPs earlier, Bell beats Google on 1Gbps Internet in Canada (well Toronto but close enough, that's where I'm at and I'm totally ok with that rolling out in my area) in like 36 months. [URL]http://www.bnn.ca/News/2015/6/25/Bell-to-bring-new-high-speed-internet-service-to-Toronto-2400-jobs-to-be-created.aspx[/URL]
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;48062160][url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128689[/url] How's this one look?[/QUOTE] I am pretty sure the high-end/overclocking chipset for FM2(+) is A88X. That doesn't always mean you wouldn't be able to overclock with the different chipsets, but its going to depends on the specific motherboard. And considering the age of the FM socket the A88X chipsets motherboards are probably around the same price. But yeah you should probably be opting for a new build, if that's possible. If you overclock that CPU you might be able to go to 4.3-4.6 (although ~4.6 is pushing it on that cooler) which is 2-9% performance improvement which probably isn't worth it.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48062269]I'm guessing NVMe drives can easily max it? Not exactly filled in with NVMe. Also here's the [URL="http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/pci-express-4-0-with-16gts-data-rates-and-new-connector-to-be-finalized-by-2017/"]article[/URL] if people don't get what I mean[/QUOTE] Uh... lots can easily max it. It's really not that hard, you're seriously underestimating things here.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48062295][URL]http://www.bell.ca/Gigabit-Fibe-Internet[/URL] "FIBE" I'd rather say Fibre then Fibe. Really Bell?[/QUOTE] Basically "Fibe" is a brand of Bell, there's Fibe Internet (home Internet) and Fibe TV (basically cable TV services served through your Internet services, it doesn't slow your Internet down as I'm guessing it's on a different network. The TV receiver is connected to the router and you can have more receivers connected to it throughout your house with without a cable, it goes through 5GHz WiFi which is pretty cool. They still have Satellite TV that they are phasing out). So I can see why they would want to keep using the "Fibe" name and just say Gigabit Fibe. And it would be less confusing to use Fibe and Gigabit Fibe instead of using Fibe and Fibre for consumers. Consumers already know Fibe as "the Internet".
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;48061982]My mum got a ThinkPad Edge E325 once, with an E-350 APU ThinkPad in name only, and sluggish as hell in everything. But the battery lasts forever.[/QUOTE] I use a version of the E325 with the AMD E-450. I have no idea what idiot at Lenovo thought Windows would be usable on that laptop. Linux is usable though.
because nobody would buy a laptop without windows
[QUOTE=nikomo;48062692]I use a version of the E325 with the AMD E-450. I have no idea what idiot at Lenovo thought Windows would be usable on that laptop. Linux is usable though.[/QUOTE] They probably put the wrong version of Windows on it, they probably should have put Windows XP or something older.
[QUOTE=garychencool;48062801]They probably put the wrong version of Windows on it, they probably should have put Windows XP or something older.[/QUOTE] Microsoft should permit them to use Windows Thin PC for more than just old computers. Perhaps while removing some of the enterprise features, and returning some of the lighter SoHo ones.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;48062765]because nobody would buy a laptop without windows[/QUOTE] Then I guess MacBook people don't exist
[QUOTE=garychencool;48063162]Then I guess MacBook people don't exist[/QUOTE] They're just a myth, nobody would actually buy a laptop that expensive
I'm done with rhythm games, my hands are still shaking, asking someone to do a 700+ note combo is bullshit. I'll never be able to get a perfect on this, and that was normal difficulty. [t]https://i.imgur.com/sdLiSw3.jpg[/t]
Could anyone enlighten me, as to what the System Volume Information is on my C drive? [t]http://i.imgur.com/jHgrHoo.png[/t] Kinda takes up a lot of space, and i'd like to know if something is going do die or not, if i go about deleting it, if possible ...
[QUOTE=lekkimsm;48063323]Could anyone enlighten me, as to what the System Volume Information is on my C drive? [t]http://i.imgur.com/jHgrHoo.png[/t] Kinda takes up a lot of space, and i'd like to know if something is going do die or not, if i go about deleting it, if possible ...[/QUOTE] It's a whole bunch of things. System restore points, shadow copy stuff, search indexing, etc.
[QUOTE=wingless;48063356]It's a whole bunch of things. System restore points, shadow copy stuff, search indexing, etc.[/QUOTE] Is there anything of it, i can remove with good conscience, and know my machine is still gonna work?
[QUOTE=lekkimsm;48063411]Is there anything of it, i can remove with good conscience, and know my machine is still gonna work?[/QUOTE] You're better off looking up proper cleanup techniques.
[QUOTE=garychencool;48062316]Basically "Fibe" is a brand of Bell, there's Fibe Internet (home Internet) and Fibe TV (basically cable TV services served through your Internet services, it doesn't slow your Internet down as I'm guessing it's on a different network. The TV receiver is connected to the router and you can have more receivers connected to it throughout your house with without a cable, it goes through 5GHz WiFi which is pretty cool. They still have Satellite TV that they are phasing out). So I can see why they would want to keep using the "Fibe" name and just say Gigabit Fibe. And it would be less confusing to use Fibe and Gigabit Fibe instead of using Fibe and Fibre for consumers. Consumers already know Fibe as "the Internet".[/QUOTE] Then Bell Aliant has the fiberop brand, which is available in my city. That said, their packages are a bit meh and they don't install service on streets without overhead power lines. I would really like if I could get Vianet fiber in the next place my dad and I move into, they're a nice company to deal with.
[QUOTE=lekkimsm;48063411]Is there anything of it, i can remove with good conscience, and know my machine is still gonna work?[/QUOTE] Use the Disk Cleanup utility. Its only going to delete stuff it believes are safe to get rid of. Deleting system data arbitrarily isn't always the best idea.
[QUOTE=lekkimsm;48063411]Is there anything of it, i can remove with good conscience, and know my machine is still gonna work?[/QUOTE] Disk cleanup is the proper way to do it. (Diskoprydning)
My PC keeps going out of stand by for no reason, how do stop from doing that? It keeps me awake.
[QUOTE=the_grul;48063993]Disk cleanup is the proper way to do it. (Diskoprydning)[/QUOTE] Hah. Can't help but read that as "Disco decorations". We've gone for the more sensible (as usual) "diskrensning". [editline]27th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=RoboChimp;48064034]My PC keeps going out of stand by for no reason, how do stop from doing that? It keeps me awake.[/QUOTE] Shut it off at night.
[QUOTE=LimEJET;48064077]Hah. Can't help but read that as "Disco decorations". We've gone for the more sensible (as usual) "diskrensning". [editline]27th June 2015[/editline] Shut it off at night.[/QUOTE]I'll forget what I had open if I do that.
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