• CIPWTTKT&GC v0x24 (v36): That Ain't Thermal Paste
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[QUOTE=nikomo;48085614]Blu-Ray will still be used for media by companies over flash memory, if flash reaches the same price point, since it's more reliable, and they've already sunk the money into the gear required to produce the disks. You can scratch a BD, but at least they won't magically lose your data whilst sitting inside a case for a few months because the manufacturer has to keep pushing for a smaller and smaller process in order to keep up with market growth, which means figuring out how to use chips with defects, which means embedding a microcontroller on-board and writing an error-correction algorithm that can try to keep up the facade that your data is 100% there. They've made some ridiculous improvements in how flash memory works, so it's not like it's unusable, but never have your only copy of something on the cheapest flash you can find - SSDs are in part more expensive because they have to be reliable.[/QUOTE] In the TV industry, some companies and channels use Blu-Ray discs to store stuff for archival. Some still use tape media and some are moving from tape to Blu-Ray discs or hard drives. XDCAM (like Blu-Ray but for broadcasting TV use, rewritable, higher capacity, fast read/write speeds) discs are often used for recording live shows when it's a mobile shoot and back ups on network VTRs are not around.
Games have gone from cartridges to discs and soon enough they'll go back to cartridges [editline]30th June 2015[/editline] Mechanically spinning disks will surely go the way of the VHS as flash memory improves
Pretty sure we won't go back to cartridges, as downloading games has become far more practical.
[QUOTE=paul simon;48085821]Pretty sure we won't go back to cartridges, as downloading games has become far more practical.[/QUOTE] Game comes on an encrypted SSD that plugs into a slot in the front of your PC. Game only becomes playable when a key is entered for node locking and a shortcut is put wherever you specify. In more than one way it reminds me how volumes could mount on the macOS desktop.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48085832]implying that most of us don't get fucked over by isps[/QUOTE] Pretty sure it won't be like that forever. Or, one can hope. [editline]30th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=MIPS;48085836]Game comes on an encrypted SSD that plugs into a slot in the front of your PC. Game only becomes playable when a key is entered for node locking and a shortcut is put wherever you specify.[/QUOTE] I absolutely don't like that idea from a consumer standpoint [editline]30th June 2015[/editline] I've decided to not buy a single physical game for my PS4, because I'm not good at handling discs.
[vid]http://fat.gfycat.com/PinkRectangularFoal.webm[/vid] such is life sitting in the back of a motorhome while cruising through the woods :v:
Oh yesterday I got to listen to a VMWare rep and HP rep argue on a conference call for 2 hours about who's fault the issue was.
[QUOTE=paul simon;48085837]Pretty sure it won't be like that forever. Or, one can hope.[/QUOTE] I don't care when new games come on steam free weekends because they take the whole weekend to download anyway.
[QUOTE=Levelog;48086171]Oh yesterday I got to listen to a VMWare rep and HP rep argue on a conference call for 2 hours about who's fault the issue was.[/QUOTE] Considering it's VMWare and HP: both.
So I've been waiting for a package for some weeks now, been tracking it too. And today was the day when it would be delivered. Except they didn't at any point inform me that it would be delivered on my doorstep, the geniuses. A digger has been tearing the asphalt off the ground since 6AM today outside my house. We don't have a doorbell because guests don't just "drop by" our house. There's 0% chance we'd hear anyone on this particular day knocking on our door, especially when we're not expecting them. So I get the "Recipient wasn't home, retrying delivery later" message. Whyyyyyy Why not just put it in the fuckin post office like regular human beings the post office is 50 meters from my house god dammit
[QUOTE=paul simon;48086218]So I've been waiting for a package for some weeks now, been tracking it too. And today was the day when it would be delivered. Except they didn't at any point inform me that it would be delivered on my doorstep, the geniuses. A digger has been tearing the asphalt off the ground since 6AM today outside my house. We don't have a doorbell because guests don't just "drop by" our house. There's 0% chance we'd hear anyone on this particular day knocking on our door, especially when we're not expecting them. So I get the "Recipient wasn't home, retrying delivery later" message. Whyyyyyy Why not just put it in the fuckin post office like regular human beings the post office is 50 meters from my house god dammit[/QUOTE] Haha classic Norwegians.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;48086270]The perspex stand for my IBM printer was delivered to the brewery 10 minutes down the road from my office. Couriers are weird sometimes.[/QUOTE] He knew you wanted a beer.
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;48085785]Games have gone from cartridges to discs and soon enough they'll go back to cartridges [editline]30th June 2015[/editline] Mechanically spinning disks will surely go the way of the VHS as flash memory improves[/QUOTE] a big reason why they went to discs is because they stored more and were cheaper to manufacture discs still store more and are easier to manufacture
Need more ram? Solder it on!
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;48086463]But cartridges give you bitchin' hardware expansions like the vector graphics chip in Starfox or the additional sound chip in Castlevania.[/QUOTE] didn't those games cost a significant amount more than average game cost because of the extra hardware? a lot of people think 60$ is already too much -- that wouldn't fly
Then you have something like the Super Gameboy which was literally just a fucking gameboy but in a SNES cart
I actually do think "cartridges" might be making a comeback. But not in the traditional way, nor for the traditional reasons: 1. Download-only is clearly the future, but at least for now, a lot of people don't have fast enough internet for that to be worthwhile. So you need some kind of physical media. 2. Flash is faster and far lower-latency than optical disks, so just based on that it would be better. 3. Flash is writable. Game updates are bigger and bigger, so being able to update the actual game cartridge instead of patches on disk is a nice benefit. You can even keep your DLC and gamesaves on the cart rather than internal storage. 4. Low-endurance TLC flash is cheap. You don't need fancy SSD-grade flash, since you're 99.999% reads and only occasional writes. 5. Since it would be for a proprietary console instead of commodity hardware, you can move the flash controller off the cartridge (assuming it can handle the longer traces - I don't think that will be a problem but maybe?). That makes it basically a big, fast SD card instead of an SSD or a traditional cartridge. 6. You can cut costs by sizing the flash to the game. 2GB indie games will have better margins than 256GB AAA blockbusters.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48086118]question is why are you in a motorhome[/QUOTE] Vacation with my dad. It's pretty relaxing, we just found out how to connect our computers to the 12v line.
Incase y'all are interested in the fireshow that I put a picture up off. Here's the last 5 minutes in decent video. [video=youtube;udWJtm5CWo4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udWJtm5CWo4&feature=share[/video]
[QUOTE=paul simon;48086218]So I've been waiting for a package for some weeks now, been tracking it too. And today was the day when it would be delivered. Except they didn't at any point inform me that it would be delivered on my doorstep, the geniuses. A digger has been tearing the asphalt off the ground since 6AM today outside my house. We don't have a doorbell because guests don't just "drop by" our house. There's 0% chance we'd hear anyone on this particular day knocking on our door, especially when we're not expecting them. So I get the "Recipient wasn't home, retrying delivery later" message. Whyyyyyy Why not just put it in the fuckin post office like regular human beings the post office is 50 meters from my house god dammit[/QUOTE] Welp, guess I'm not getting my PS4 back today after all. Gotta wait until tomorrow.
[QUOTE=paul simon;48085837] I absolutely don't like that idea from a consumer standpoint [/QUOTE] Just the way the SSD is inserted or because of the encryption? Just a simple one-time authentication with a key in the box the game came with would suffice. A way to slightly complicate module duplication or pre-release leaks and keep the suits happy. You could also impliment some of the old anti-piracy shenanigans of the past like false sectors or block gaps. Something totally transparent to someone using a legit same SSD.
Using physical media for games at this point feels like a dead duck and is one of the reasons why I am no longer playing games on a console. Anyway I've moved on to using my right hand for using the mouse as my left hand got tired playing a game, I can just feel my accuracy going down the shitter. (I'm left handed)
Nowadays you can get all console games in digital download format.
[QUOTE=paul simon;48087235]Nowadays you can ve Yget all console games in digital download format.[/QUOTE] Yep, but I don't feel like paying £45-£50 for the privilege.
What, you don't want to pay for games? Not sure i get you. Or are you convinced that all console games are expensive AAA titles? [editline]30th June 2015[/editline] Driveclub was ~£25 Resogun was ~£9
[QUOTE=paul simon;48087381]What, you don't want to pay for games? Not sure i get you. Or are you convinced that all console games are expensive AAA titles? [editline]30th June 2015[/editline] Driveclub was ~£25 Resogun was ~£9[/QUOTE] Well that is interesting I know Nintendo likes to charge full RRP for their games digitally and the thing is as well is that most of the games I play are big budget games (I don't like the term "AAA" title, gives off a "them and us" vibe). And besides its not the only reason I refrain from playing consoles.
PS3 / PS4 games have always been cheaper in the online store than retail, but it might just be where I live.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48085832]implying that most of us don't get fucked over by isps[/QUOTE] Implying console companies care about people with bad internet access Microsoft was [I]ready[/I] to ditch anyone with spotty internet this generation, there was even talk of digital-only boxes, and it's known that console companies make most of their cash off digital downloads (where the retailer doesn't get a share) and online subscriptions. I'd really like to see flash memory come back, even as a gimmick for digital-focused boxes. That's the one case where I wouldn't mind a locked-down, proprietary format (SONY...) as long as it looked pretty. tl;dr bring back HuCards pls
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;48087202]Using physical media for games at this point feels like a dead duck and is one of the reasons why I am no longer playing games on a console. Anyway I've moved on to using my right hand for using the mouse as my left hand got tired playing a game, I can just feel my accuracy going down the shitter. (I'm left handed)[/QUOTE] Not entirely sure what you were expecting tbh. All your muscle memory for using a mouse is on your left hand. Also you might be using a mouse wrong if your hand is getting tired.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;48088147]I'd really like to see flash memory come back, even as a gimmick for digital-focused boxes. That's the one case where I wouldn't mind a locked-down, proprietary format (SONY...) as long as it looked pretty.[/QUOTE] I'd really like to see decent residential internet connections everywhere.
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