Windows.next to be "Completely Different" and "Mind-Blowing" - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=Panda X;20439020]They would never break compatibility. Microsoft goes to incredible lengths to ensure that things are compatible.[/QUOTE] Especially with Xbox original games compatible with the 360!

I really hope windows becomes something a bit more like linux, only really the free themes, no restarts on updates and you can't get viruses. But overall I am very excited to see what Microsoft has in store for us.

[QUOTE=livelonger12;20464120]Especially with Xbox original games compatible with the 360![/QUOTE] Hi this is the Windows subforum.

[QUOTE=Panda X;20466420]Hi this is the Windows subforum.[/QUOTE] It has a transitive relation to the thread (i.e. Xbox/360 > compatibility > Microsoft > Windows).

[QUOTE=livelonger12;20478467]It has a transitive relation to the thread (i.e. Xbox/360 > compatibility > Microsoft > Windows).[/QUOTE] That's a stretch. Not to mention the people who work on Xbox/360 have absolutely nothing to do with the development of Windows.

[QUOTE=Panda X;20478556]That's a stretch. Not to mention the people who work on Xbox/360 have absolutely nothing to do with the development of Windows.[/QUOTE] They do, albeit a distant relation but are still nonetheless, associated with its author - Microsoft. [editline]10:47PM[/editline] Besides, you stated that [b]Microsoft[/b] go to great lengths to assure compatibility for their users, to which I addressed sarcastically by describing their failed attempt at providing Xbox original compatibility for its successor.

Regardless of how well the 360 can play Xbox games, there isn't a chance in hell of microsoft making an operating system that wasn't fully compatible with everything that runs on Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Xp. I mean honestly, unless they build something for a completely different purpose - a tablet-only edition or something perhaps.

[QUOTE=Cey22;20485166]Regardless of how well the 360 can play Xbox games, there isn't a chance in hell of microsoft making an operating system that wasn't fully compatible with everything that runs on Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Xp. I mean honestly, unless they build something for a completely different purpose - a tablet-only edition or something perhaps.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately with the Windows development process they only work on the highest end SKU and then down the rest very late in the game. So if they made a tablet-only edition they would use Ultimate and go from there.

[QUOTE=Panda X;20485206]Unfortunately with the Windows development process they only work on the highest end SKU and then down the rest very late in the game. So if they made a tablet-only edition they would use Ultimate and go from there.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I was going to say "phone operating system" but they already did that. The point was that their main operating system is always gonna be compatible with older versions of itself.

[quote]it will change the way people think about PCs and the way they use them. It is the future of PCs… [/quote] I'm not sure that is a good thing.

[QUOTE=acds;20497160]I'm not sure that is a good thing.[/QUOTE] Not good for someone who cries when something changes.

It will probably involve something like every user interface being a web application which talks to the OS Kernel via a mini ASP.NET runtime with the ability to access all those applications online via windows live etc etc etc or something like that. I don't work for Microsoft.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;20433538]So long as it's not a repeat of Vista I'll be happy.[/QUOTE] Vista wasn't that bad at all. Unless your computer was a complete load of crap, then it should've been able to handle Vista fairly well. I don't understand way keep hating on Vista.

I'm glad Panda X exists.

[QUOTE=philxyz;20503218]It will probably involve something like every user interface being a web application which talks to the OS Kernel via a mini ASP.NET runtime with the ability to access all those applications online via windows live etc etc etc or something like that. [/QUOTE] That would be really bad thing to do. Oh and Panda X is a fanboy.

[QUOTE=Within;20510119]I'm glad Panda X exists.[/QUOTE] ? [QUOTE=johanz;20511214]That would be really bad thing to do. Oh and Panda X is a fanboy.[/QUOTE] Popular misconception as a matter of fact.

I wonder what they're planning up... I mean, Windows 7 is awesome, but if they're saying that Windows.Next is going to be completely mind-blowingly different....

[QUOTE=Jimmy422;20521886]I wonder what they're planning up... I mean, Windows 7 is awesome, but if they're saying that Windows.Next is going to be completely mind-blowingly different....[/QUOTE] Make it bug free would be completely different and mind-blowing.

[QUOTE=joethegreatcho;20509572]Vista wasn't that bad at all. Unless your computer was a complete load of crap, then it should've been able to handle Vista fairly well. I don't understand way keep hating on Vista.[/QUOTE] Yes, the Vista bandwagon was created by millions of people who decided to lie about their OS usage experience. In reality, Vista was bug-free and enlarged your penis 2 inches.

Already?

[QUOTE=raccoon12;20523518]Already?[/QUOTE] What you expect them to just sit on their asses for a few years. [editline]08:56PM[/editline] [QUOTE=gparent;20523459]Yes, the Vista bandwagon was created by millions of people who decided to lie about their OS usage experience. In reality, Vista was bug-free and enlarged your penis 2 inches.[/QUOTE] Just because you had a bad experience doesn't make the product itself bad. [editline]08:57PM[/editline] What I'd really like to see in Winext is this those small things that just make the average use seem so much better: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IARLV36yNjE&feature=related[/media]

[QUOTE=gparent;20523459]Yes, the Vista bandwagon was created by millions of people who decided to lie about their OS usage experience. In reality, Vista was bug-free and enlarged your penis 2 inches.[/QUOTE] No, the [b]bandwagon[/b] was created mostly by people who didn't like change and refused to try Vista, and by people who tried Vista expecting to hate it and thus did. It was sustained partly by the reports of users who had legitimate problems with the initial state of the OS, and never died because people hate to admit being wrong.

[QUOTE=Roast Beast;20524335]It was sustained partly by the reports of users who had legitimate problems with the initial state of the OS,[/QUOTE] The problem is most of the anti-bandwagon supremacy crew seems to refuse to believe that this is even possible in the first place. Say you have a legitimate problem with your OS, and some retard will come up with stuff like "Your computer sucks then!" (as if having a low power CPU made Vista crash) or the traditional i-got-nothing-to-say "You're doing it wrong!" argument. In reality, Vista crashing had nothing to do with how old or how recent your computer was. It depended purely on the actual model of the hardware, and what driver you had installed. Only *slowdowns* should be caused by old machines.

[QUOTE=gparent;20525133]The problem is most of the anti-bandwagon supremacy crew seems to refuse to believe that this is even possible in the first place. Say you have a legitimate problem with your OS, and some retard will come up with stuff like "Your computer sucks then!" (as if having a low power CPU made Vista crash) or the traditional i-got-nothing-to-say "You're doing it wrong!" argument. In reality, Vista crashing had nothing to do with how old or how recent your computer was. It depended purely on the actual model of the hardware, and what driver you had installed. Only *slowdowns* should be caused by old machines.[/QUOTE] I agree completely, and it confused the issue terribly having many legitimate problems mixed in with bandwagon BS. A certain amount of Vista hate may have been justified then, but even now that its problems have been fixed people refuse to acknowledge that Vista was a major step forward for MS. Hence statements like [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;20433538]So long as it's not a repeat of Vista I'll be happy.[/QUOTE] It's just beating a dead horse at this point.

[QUOTE=gparent;20525133]In reality, Vista crashing had nothing to do with how old or how recent your computer was. It depended purely on the actual model of the hardware, and what driver you had installed. Only *slowdowns* should be caused by old machines.[/QUOTE] So how's this make Vista suck? It doesn't (and I know you didn't imply that it did) which is where the whole bandwagon comes from. Just because someone had a bad experience doesn't mean Vista itself sucked. Which is what I've been preaching from day 1.

[QUOTE=Panda X;20525678]So how's this make Vista suck?[/QUOTE] Well, the drivers were changed and that caused a lot of stability issues, also I definitely had weird freezes when using it, on multiple hardware configurations, so I wasn't impressed. Copy paste speed took a freaking service pack to fix, which was kinda odd. I didn't see any problems similar to this in Windows 7, which isn't very surprising considering it's a basically a fixed version of Vista with extra features. I still stand by my opinion that it wasn't a very good OS (and it wasn't adopted very much either last I checked) because of that, but I know there will always be some people who will defend bad products because it's "good enough" for them. I mean, there's even some morons who threaten people who downgrade to XP, saying they'll suffer countless crashes and bugs... By itself, I'm sure it's fine, but I didn't see nearly the same issues with XP's release and 7's release, so I'm bound to say that it was worse overall. Now you probably had different experiences and I respect that, but I tend to poke fun at the bandwagon posts because of all of the above. =)

People who think it's slow should use a Longhorn M7 build with WinFS and Aero enabled.

[QUOTE=Panda X;20526282]People who think it's slow should use a Longhorn M7 build with WinFS and Aero enabled.[/QUOTE] holy shit the old builds were so slow. i swear build 5231 took 4 hours to install and 5 mins to boot.

[QUOTE=Foda;20539883]holy shit the old builds were so slow. i swear build 5231 took 4 hours to install and 5 mins to boot.[/QUOTE] That's near Beta 2 of Vista, still slow as hell but Longhorn was slower by a lot.

[QUOTE=Panda X;20522094]Make it bug free would be completely different and mind-blowing.[/QUOTE] We can dream, can't we? Does Microsoft even patch bugs via Windows Update?