[QUOTE=Roast Beast;18520861]Another usability feature over XP: full access to NTFS permissions settings without having to logon to the hidden Administrator account.[/QUOTE]
whenever i reinstall windows 7, i immediately enable the admin account, logon to it, and delete the one created during installation
plus, UAC doesn't give any prompts on the admin account
I've been an XP fan for years. I wanna know if 7 will make my gaming smoother.
Like WoW, and other games. Even spec-intensive ones like Crysis and Oblivion.
[QUOTE=and;18520968]whenever i reinstall windows 7, i immediately enable the admin account, logon to it, and delete the one created during installation
plus, UAC doesn't give any prompts on the admin account[/QUOTE]
Um, yeah UAC doesn't prompt you because that defeats the whole purpose of UAC. If you're logged into the administrator account then all programs have administrator privileges by default, which is no better than XP security and is in fact the exact security flaw that UAC was designed to fix.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;18520556]
I have more fingers than games that require Dx10/11.
On one hand.[/QUOTE]
Take a look... [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_10_support[/url]
[QUOTE=and;18520412]i don't care what you're using, you always have a definite bias for XP (if not linux) regardless of the situation[/QUOTE]
It's not bias to say that XP is still widely supported, it's a damn fact. No one is stupid enough to ignore XP when it still remains the most widely used operation system on the market, and security support isn't going away until 2014, which is pretty damn far from "soon".
Now you can cram your head in the sand or whatever else all you want and call this 'bias', but it's not.
[QUOTE=S.T.O.R.M;18521218]Take a look... [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_10_support[/url][/QUOTE]
Take a look at his post. Keyword is the last verb.
[quote=s.t.o.r.m;18521218]take a look... [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_games_with_directx_10_support[/url][/quote]
require
[QUOTE=gparent;18521317]
Take a look at his post. Keyword is the last verb.[/QUOTE]
It shows games that are going to use Dx11 as well, don't panic... -.-
[QUOTE=gparent;18521317]It's not bias to say that XP is still widely supported, it's a damn fact. No one is stupid enough to ignore XP when it still remains the most widely used operation system on the market, and security support isn't going away until 2014, which is pretty damn far from "soon".
Now you can cram your head in the sand or whatever else all you want and call this 'bias', but it's not.
Take a look at his post. Keyword is the last verb.[/QUOTE]
Yes, XP is still supported, but no more than Windows 7... XP is getting old and support is fading, and that's a damn fact.
[QUOTE=S.T.O.R.M;18521376]It shows games that are going to use Dx11 as well, don't panic... -.-[/QUOTE]
Doesn't mean they're going to require DX10 either...
[QUOTE=and;18521382]Yes, XP is still supported, but no more than Windows 7... XP is getting old and support is fading, and that's a damn fact.[/QUOTE]
Of course it's *more* supported. Windows 7 can't have more support when XP supports everything and 7 doesn't.
For instance, TrueCrypt, TeraCopy and Daemon tools only recently got official support for Windows 7. There's probably some software that doesn't work at all, some of it works bad (SimCity 2000, yes, that's old).
It's a simple fact that XP is more supported, and it's not a con towards Windows 7 at all. It's just truth.
[QUOTE=S.T.O.R.M;18521376]It shows games that are going to use Dx11 as well, don't panic... -.-[/QUOTE]
games that require
The only game that I know of that requires Dx10 is Shattered Horizon. All the other ones support Dx9.
[QUOTE=gparent;18521386]Doesn't mean they're going to require DX10 either...
Of course it's *more* supported. Windows 7 can't have more support when XP supports everything and 7 doesn't.
For instance, TrueCrypt, TeraCopy and Daemon tools only recently got official support for Windows 7. There's probably some software that doesn't work at all, some of it works bad (SimCity 2000, yes, that's old).
It's a simple fact that XP is more supported, and it's not a con towards Windows 7 at all. It's just truth.[/QUOTE]
You need to understand XP doesn't support everything, though. As an example, I just recently purchased [url=http://store.steampowered.com/app/18110/]Shattered Horizon[/url] on Steam - it [b]requires[/b] a DX10 capable system, including Vista or 7. XP is completely unsupported in that game.
My favorite was 64 bit, the access to MUCH more ram, and getting drivers is easier and faster. Also, everything runs faster and many other various reason.
Also, 3DMark Vantage is only supported under Vista and 7.
XP is at the end of it's life. Plus 7 is amazing. Runs so smooth and there's a lot better features. There's really no reason why you shouldn't upgrade.
[QUOTE=and;18521476]You need to understand XP doesn't support everything, though. As an example, I just recently purchased [url=http://store.steampowered.com/app/18110/]Shattered Horizon[/url] on Steam - it [b]requires[/b] a DX10 capable system, including Vista or 7. XP is completely unsupported in that game.[/QUOTE]
That's one program. There are far more programs that aren't supported by Windows 7 yet. What are you trying to argue exactly?
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;18522356]That's one program. There are far more programs that aren't supported by Windows 7 yet. What are you trying to argue exactly?[/QUOTE]
I'm arguing against gparent, who claims XP "supports everything" and is "the most supported OS" when it's growing older by the day as Windows 7 steals the spotlight.
[QUOTE=and;18522842]I'm arguing against gparent, who claims XP "supports everything" and is "the most supported OS" when it's growing older by the day as Windows 7 steals the spotlight.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't 'support everything,' but it still is the most widely supported OS and will be widely supported for a long time. I'm not saying it's a reason to not get Windows 7 though.
Faster, less buggy, easier to use.
And adapted for more sources
Enough?
Functionality and compatibility of XP paired with the aesthetics of Vista. It works great with both XP and Vista based peripherals. Also, XP is nearing a decade old. But 7 still mightn't be worth it. (Got mine free :smug:)
[QUOTE=gparent;18521386]Doesn't mean they're going to require DX10 either...
Of course it's *more* supported. Windows 7 can't have more support when XP supports everything and 7 doesn't.
For instance, TrueCrypt, TeraCopy and Daemon tools only recently got official support for Windows 7. There's probably some software that doesn't work at all, some of it works bad (SimCity 2000, yes, that's old).
It's a simple fact that XP is more supported, and it's not a con towards Windows 7 at all. It's just truth.[/QUOTE]
Did you know that OS X is "more supported" than XP OR 7?!
It depends on how you look at it. There's plenty of things that XP doesn't support, and plenty of things that 7 doesn't. The point is, 7 has great support and support is not a real issue with 7 that should be taken into account when planning to purchase or not.
It's cool
[QUOTE=Ugly;18520037]It's made by Microsoft, it has to be good.[/QUOTE]
BOB.
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You get a refined Explorer over Vista, which itself is a massive improvement over the clumsy XP version. As well as massive overhauls on the basic apps, a super useful Calculator, and ribbons on both Paint and Wordpad. Paint also supports pressure sensitivity and has some fancy textured brushes built in.
Windows Media Player is the most epic yet, with image quality to rival the best of the best, as well as much improved format support and high performance resampling. It has a nice out of the way player mode and an improved library mode. Even so Explorer itself has become powerful enough to replace such dedicated media libraries. Libraries that can aggregate your content from across many locations makes it easy and easily searchable.
You get an improved Windows Search over Vista which didn't even exist in XP. Though it is offered as a seperate download the UI for that is clumsy and doesn't compare to start menu integration of Vista/7.
The Superbar which I used to be weary of turns out to be incredibly useful, live previews and Aero Peek allow you to quickly see every window, and even tab for the browsers that support it, (currently IE and an addon for FF) that you have open and preview it in fullscreen, smoothly. Jump lists make the "integrated quickstart" incredibly useful in doing what you want with an app before it's even started. The window manager is more capable than ever, you can drag and drop freely on the taskbar, and put windows side by side easily. As well as effortlessly fill the screen along select axes. Personally I haven't found a use for Aero Shake and frankly it only gets in the way, but like the "search internet" function that is missing from the start menu from Vista this is easily corrected by a minute in the group policy editor. (Google it.)
From Vista you get the better stability, safer system and overall technically superior OS underneath the hood.
Though you may want to up the UAC setting to max since the "low annoyance mode" is exploitable.
You do get incompatibilites, but since Vista as been out for a while a lot of them has been fixed, and it has new application experience helpers that ease fixing whatever incompatibilites you encounter.
Overall, if you come from XP there's no choice.
[QUOTE=gparent;18521386]Doesn't mean they're going to require DX10 either...
Of course it's *more* supported. Windows 7 can't have more support when XP supports everything and 7 doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Right now, I can only think of one game that requires DX10/11. And that's Shattered Horizon.
How many fingers is that?
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IMO if you get 32 bit you might just as well stick with XP. Unless you really need dx10. I am on XP right now because my hardware not that good and I don't need win7. I will switch to win7 when I upgrade
DO IT.
...pleeeaaase?
[QUOTE=Benie;18521037]I've been an XP fan for years. I wanna know if 7 will make my gaming smoother.
Like WoW, and other games. Even spec-intensive ones like Crysis and Oblivion.[/QUOTE]
Oblivion isn't a spec-intensive game.
[QUOTE=and;18521476]You need to understand XP doesn't support everything, though. As an example, I just recently purchased [url=http://store.steampowered.com/app/18110/]Shattered Horizon[/url] on Steam - it [b]requires[/b] a DX10 capable system, including Vista or 7. XP is completely unsupported in that game.[/QUOTE]
It's not a literal "everything", but that's like the only program I'm aware of that isn't supported on XP (except some programs that just don't make sense on XP, like some vista mods).
[QUOTE=and;18521486]Also, 3DMark Vantage is only supported under Vista and 7.[/QUOTE]
That's a benchmark built around DX10. It's an obvious design choice, and it doesn't really matter. It's not like actual software losing support. It's not like a game developer who has to take his customers into account. They only care about the latest techs.
[QUOTE=and;18522842]I'm arguing against gparent, who claims XP "supports everything" and is "the most supported OS" when it's growing older by the day as Windows 7 steals the spotlight.[/QUOTE]
If you understood business and software development you'd realize it doesn't matter that XP is growing older. It's going to be supported until 2014, so most businesses are going to use it for another few years still, and that means most new software [b]has[/b] to support XP.
[QUOTE=Benie;18521037]I've been an XP fan for years. I wanna know if 7 will make my gaming smoother.
(...)[/QUOTE]
Just new hardware can "make your games smoother".
I worked with XP a long time now and switched to 7 in August. I do not regret anything.
It runs as smooth as XP, boots faster than XP and looks also nicer and cleaner.
Games are as fast as on XP and I did not encounter any incompatibility yet.
The only downside in my eyes are the permanent HDD usage in idle - But for that, you can disable SuperFetch, Autodefrag and other - in my eyes - unecessary services (Like on every system, it needs to be configured).
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