[QUOTE=BmB;24562766]No, but one of my steam contacts has, and all he ever does(!) is complain about how X site doesn't work and got noscript'd and shit.[/QUOTE] Then he's using it completely wrong. It's a great tool and I couldn't live without it.
[QUOTE=deloc;24570250]chrome > firefox > * > ie > opera[/QUOTE]
I have no idea why you would prefer IE above Opera, but that's just your opinion I guess.
[QUOTE=CarlBooth;24340890][img_thumb]http://i37.tinypic.com/10ruuxk.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Doesn't look intuitive like the other browsers. Looks harder to use than IE8
[QUOTE=CarlBooth;24340890]- Tabs can be torn off and used with Windows 7's Aero Snap feature.[/QUOTE]
Like Firefox (sort of)
[QUOTE=CarlBooth;24340890]- You can pin addresses to your IE9 Jump List or as icons on the taskbar.[/QUOTE]
So like the other browsers.
[QUOTE=CarlBooth;24340890]- The address bar and search bars are now combined.[/QUOTE]
Like Google Chrome.
[QUOTE=CarlBooth;24340890]- The menu bar is gone, it has a single menu like Chrome/Firefox.[/QUOTE]
And like Opera.
[QUOTE=Panda X;24345045]Almost ever browser? I've only seen it in Firefox.[/QUOTE]
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655356/Public%20Photos/ZScreen/Mozilla_Firefox_Start_Page_-_Mozilla_Firefox_4.0_Beta_4_05-09-2010_0022.png[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655356/Public%20Photos/ZScreen/Opera_Portal_beta_-_Opera_05-09-2010_0019.png[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655356/Public%20Photos/ZScreen/New_Tab_-_Google_Chrome_05-09-2010_0020.png[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655356/Public%20Photos/ZScreen/Bing_-_Windows_Internet_Explorer_05-09-2010_0024.jpg[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655356/Public%20Photos/ZScreen/Apple_-_Start_05-09-2010_0018.png[/img_thumb]
Yeah, they definitely copied the big back from Firefox.
[QUOTE=Zedo Mann;24630637]
Yeah, they definitely copied the big back from Firefox.[/QUOTE]
You are aware that both MSN Explorer and IE 6.5 had it back in 2002 right? At which time Firefox did not.
Lol good. Maybe someone can improve it now.
[QUOTE=Panda X;24630760]You are aware that both MSN Explorer and IE 6.5 had it back in 2002 right? At which time Firefox did not.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the 'big back button' fad was started by the Longhorn (Vista) alpha builds in 2002/2003. Windows Explorer (the file manager) had it.
Nothing to do with Firefox.
Doesn't look horrible. I'll test it and see if it competes with Firefox.
[QUOTE=Panda X;24630760]You are aware that both MSN Explorer and IE 6.5 had it back in 2002 right? At which time Firefox did not.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CarlBooth;24633832]Yeah the 'big back button' fad was started by the Longhorn (Vista) alpha builds in 2002/2003. Windows Explorer (the file manager) had it.
Nothing to do with Firefox.[/QUOTE]
I learned something new today.
I wouldn't have really known about the Longhorn Alpha builds because at that time I was on Dial up and doing anything on the internet was a pain and we didn't want to tie up the phone line. I wonder why they didn't keep that design?
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Or did it still look like IE6?
[img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/IE_6_SP3_XP_screenshot.PNG[/img_thumb]
[QUOTE=Zedo Mann;24640943]I learned something new today.
I wouldn't have really known about the Longhorn Alpha builds because at that time I was on Dial up and doing anything on the internet was a pain and we didn't want to tie up the phone line. I wonder why they didn't keep that design?
[editline]11:44AM[/editline]
Or did it still look like IE6?
[img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/IE_6_SP3_XP_screenshot.PNG[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
[img_thumb]http://screenshots.winfuture.de/Windows-Longhorn-Build-4053-1078404622.jpg[/img_thumb]
If you look at the build number on the desktop, it's
Build 4053.main.031022-1720
This means its build 4053 which was compiled in the Windows NT main development lab at 17.20 on 22nd October 2003.
We have no idea if this actually is ie9 so this is pointless.
Of all the things to complain about, the big back button seems a little pointless. I like the minimalistic approach, it means you get to see more of the actual webpage. It'll probably have a feature where you can move the tabs below the address bar.
I'm happy that they've got the combined bar route instead of botching something supposedly "innovative" together, clears up the arseache of getting to know yet another system.
[QUOTE=BmB;24368566]Fuck yes.
That pretty much settles it. Soon as this is out Chrome can suck it.[/QUOTE]
Fuck yeah, moving backwards.
[QUOTE=BmB;24380654]Chrome itself is largely just an updated take on the IE7 UI model, which itself seems to come from Safari (or wherever the hell).
So more UI design ping pong than a ripoff.
If you want ripoff I direct you to Failfox's latest attempt to have pixel for pixel feature equivalence with Opera.[/QUOTE]
Hmm..
[img]http://www.johntp.com/wp-content/uploads/ie7_screenshot.jpg[/img]
IE7
[img]http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/safari-thumb.png[/img]
Safari
[img]http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/wp-content/upload/images/google-chrome/google-chrome-linux-2-thumb-600x409.png[/img]
Chrome
So, wheres the UI ripoff on chrome?
[QUOTE=BmB;24670959]@Richard Simmons: Wtf you on about?[/QUOTE]
I fail to see how Chrome is a rip off of the IE7 GUI model.
The new race of the browsers: make as much shit transparent as possible
also I don't see why they'd put an essential buttons such as the home icon below the window icons, I think they should be on the left with the forward and back keys.
Actually, IE's icon placement always messed with my muscle memory so I guess it's just that I got used to Firefox 4b5's layout a bit too much
Browsers can't really evolve in the from of a GUI. They're all similar, yeah kind of like a ping-pong type of deal. But what can you change? Put the address bar in the middle, and the back and forward buttons right by the minimize/maximize\Window/close buttons?
its they all develop their own sense of style to them. They all evolve in how they present themselves, but nothing radical has really evolved from them.
They are taking away from other browsers (elements that work) and removing or relocating other elements that don't work, or would work better in other areas.
What really comes to play is the tools, the functions, and the security behind them. Not to mention their stability, speed, and ability.
IE has always been lacking behind in stability, speed, security, tools and functions.
IE is the only browser that tries to do the UI icon's differently now, though.
If you look at safari, chrome and firefox 4 you can see that they all have the same basic layout (after some use you can see differences though)
But yeah, browsers are pretty similar to each other now.
Except it's pretty damn stable, fair speed, excellent security and well rounded and most importantly most usable in terms of functions.
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Before IE7 all browsers looked like IE6. Except Safari. I never said they ripped it off, that was in fact the guy who I replied to (jesus fuck why can't anybody REAAAADDD???!! THE GOD DAMN THREEAADDDD????!!!) and I argued against that, as Chrome brought it's own flair to the table rather than simply taking shit.
When I say IE7 model, I mean the adress bar/search field/only essential buttons style of that layout. IE7 was to me the first notable example of that, and seemed to spark the popularity it has today.
[QUOTE=BmB;24685405]Except it's pretty damn stable, fair speed, excellent security and well rounded and most importantly most usable in terms of functions.
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Before IE7 all browsers looked like IE6. Except Safari.[/QUOTE]
HAHA, not really though.
I like it, inb4 switching to IE9 Beta
[QUOTE=Kidd;24375123]You go for what works best.
Though tabs next to the search bar?
Tsk.[/QUOTE]
Not to defend IE and Microsoft, but instead of jumping on the bandwagon and say "This is shit, because it's different", is just dumb. Of course you'll get a lot of agrees, but that doesn't change that I'm content that Microsoft has tested this through, and, at least, found it useful. As stated before in this thread, it will mainly be running on Windows 7, and I'm pretty sure they would like people to get used to using "snap". I'm sure Microsoft have thought this through, no matter that everybody "They only want to make money, they don't care about usefullnes". Microsoft needs to make software that the users actually appreciates, as they are a big and well-knowned company.
If they just could fix the security issues and make it a little faster, I would surely give it a shot.
Am I the only one who actually thought that the longhorn UI look pretty good?
Microsoft's Usability Labs are legendary.
I think we can all agree that using the default browser an OS comes with (IE, Safari) is a terrible idea, and you should use either Chrome, Firefox, or Opera. Can't we all stop fighting over browsers and agree over which ones suck the most?
No, we can't agree on that.
BmB, you, and a vast amount of other people, missed what the thread is about.
IE9 Beta 1 confirmed for September 15th.
[url]http://www.beautyoftheweb.com[/url]
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