Can someone explain UAC's real world benefits and cons to? - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=P320;32694406]It damn-near already does, and it's annoying as fuck... -_- I'm tempted to disable UAC altogether, or build a Windows 7 ISO using RT7Lite and remove the "feature" entirely.[/QUOTE] For me it's only for installations or running certain apps like ccleaner or Malwarebytes.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;32694140]Wouldn't that make every time you launch an application it requires UAC prompts?[/QUOTE] If every app was digitally signed by Microsoft, that'd surely mean less UAC? Since the app is already trusted and safe (in theory)?

[QUOTE=Dr Egg;32696054]If every app was digitally signed by Microsoft, that'd surely mean less UAC? Since the app is already trusted and safe (in theory)?[/QUOTE] Even if the app is "safe", I don't want Microsoft to drive-by install Windows Live junk on my computer.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;32705908]Even if the app is "safe", I don't want Microsoft to drive-by install Windows Live junk on my computer.[/QUOTE] When have they ever drove-by installed Live anywhere?

Live needs to be integrated into Windows Update as an Optional update.

[QUOTE=P320;32706945]Live needs to be integrated into Windows Update as an Optional update.[/QUOTE] It is

[QUOTE=The Baconator;32707367]It is[/QUOTE] Good. (I use the Ninite installer, so I wouldn't know)

My problem with UAC is that it always appears minimized for me, thus hiding itself. That leaves me waiting several seconds before I realize something is wrong, after which I have to click the icon on my taskbar to bring forth the dialogue box to click "yes" or "no".

[QUOTE=Panda X;32705927]When have they ever drove-by installed Live anywhere?[/QUOTE] I don't mean to say that they would do that. I just don't like the idea of having to get an app signed by Microsoft to not trigger UAC. In a way, it's like Apple's AppStore. Unsigned apps would become second class citizens in Windows. Sure you can still install unsigned apps like you can jailbreak an iPhone and install whatever you want, but it's more "underground" and not something my grandmother would do. There's really nothing wrong with UAC in the first place, so the idea of having programs signed by Microsoft is dumb in the first place. It's sad that so many people want UAC to go away because Microsoft did something right in terms of securing Windows for once. If they want to go back to the glory days of Wndows 98, then whatever.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;32935484]I don't mean to say that they would do that. I just don't like the idea of having to get an app signed by Microsoft to not trigger UAC. In a way, it's like Apple's AppStore. Unsigned apps would become second class citizens in Windows. Sure you can still install unsigned apps like you can jailbreak an iPhone and install whatever you want, but it's more "underground" and not something my grandmother would do. There's really nothing wrong with UAC in the first place, so the idea of having programs signed by Microsoft is dumb in the first place. It's sad that so many people want UAC to go away because Microsoft did something right in terms of securing Windows for once. If they want to go back to the glory days of Wndows 98, then whatever.[/QUOTE] What, it's not like Windows is going to stop you from running unsigned things, it's just going to warn you before running them. Anything that gives less UAC pop-ups is a plus for me. The only thing wrong with UAC was that every single program used to need to be run as Admin to work correctly, at least that's what I remember from Vista; now a days it seems most programs have adapted and thus it's not nearly as annoying.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;32938587]What, it's not like Windows is going to stop you from running unsigned things, it's just going to warn you before running them. Anything that gives less UAC pop-ups is a plus for me. The only thing wrong with UAC was that every single program used to need to be run as Admin to work correctly, at least that's what I remember from Vista; now a days it seems most programs have adapted and thus it's not nearly as annoying.[/QUOTE] The only thing I ever run as admin is CMD. [editline]24th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;32935484]I don't mean to say that they would do that. I just don't like the idea of having to get an app signed by Microsoft to not trigger UAC. In a way, it's like Apple's AppStore. Unsigned apps would become second class citizens in Windows. Sure you can still install unsigned apps like you can jailbreak an iPhone and install whatever you want, but it's more "underground" and not something my grandmother would do. There's really nothing wrong with UAC in the first place, so the idea of having programs signed by Microsoft is dumb in the first place. It's sad that so many people want UAC to go away because Microsoft did something right in terms of securing Windows for once. If they want to go back to the glory days of Wndows 98, then whatever.[/QUOTE] Oh. Yeah I found that a bit odd, but if it's signed by Microsoft you should have confidence that its a legit program and there wouldn't be a need for a UAC dialog. But if their signature leaked like Realtek's did that can and probably will cause a lot of trouble.

[QUOTE=Panda X;32939496]Oh. Yeah I found that a bit odd, but if it's signed by Microsoft you should have confidence that its a legit program and there wouldn't be a need for a UAC dialog. But if their signature leaked like Realtek's did that can and probably will cause a lot of trouble.[/QUOTE] Exactly. I don't trust Microsoft to make an OS to the quality level I expect of them, so them signing software is completely meaningless to me. The programs they sign should go through the same process as an unsigned program. Plus then you have the same issues as with CAs.