Picking out quality liquid loop for my next setup, help?
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Seriously what the fuck are you using this computer for. I see no reason why you are being this vague about your usage unless you're doing something illegal or embarrassing.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;50579591]Again, it's not just my needs.[/QUOTE]
What, are you building a botnet? Even if you still end up spending $26k on computers, there are way better ways to spend that money.
[QUOTE=matt000024;50579649]Seriously what the fuck are you using this computer for. I see no reason why you are being this vague about your usage unless you're doing something illegal or embarrassing.[/QUOTE]
spoilers he's actually running tor's biggest cp node
[editline]23rd June 2016[/editline]
or rendering the hottest hentai babes
[editline]23rd June 2016[/editline]
also lmao you were actually considering raid 0???
"yes i'm going to spend 10 thousand dollars on SSDs and then not have any parity"
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50579655]spoilers he's actually running tor's biggest cp node
[editline]23rd June 2016[/editline]
or rendering the hottest hentai babes[/QUOTE]
I mean shit even if he really was doing that, I don't think two fucking CPUs that aren't even Xeons are gonna cover it.
What on Earth could you possibly be computing that requires over a thousand gigabytes of RAM but only two i7 CPUs?
"why is my hentai not rendering???" -- client
"oh cause i put 10k of SSDs in a RAID0 and one failed randomly so I lost all data sorry" -- MeepDarknessM
Pay me 22k and I'll use the rest of your budget to pick the parts for the PC
:)
Pay me $1k and tell me what in the fuck you're doing and I'll gladly help you build the PC
serious offer
My offer is better because it cost more
[QUOTE=matt000024;50579636]If you want to do car comparisons, you're being the equivalent of the middle aged dude who buys whatever car is most expensive to compensate. Also cars are something you drive around town often to show off. This is a stupid buy and you're wasting your money. Having a $27,000 computer unless you actually need one won't make people impressed, it'll just make you look like an idiot.
Is your project by any chance doing calculations for North Korea's atomic bomb factory because I cannot fathom any project one person would be doing that would require over a 1000 fucking GB of RAM.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not the equivalent. It's the equivalent of buying a stapler for a job. But increase the price by 7000x
The RAM is for being a ramdisk / mass calculations the need to be done fast - I'm actually writing a program to as much ram as it can for calculations.
Please stop shitposting. I literally asked one question and this all became about money that I am willing to spend for a job. This isn't going to be paid only by me. It's also tax deductible.
Now for real, who knows how to pick out liquid loops and such?
If you've got $27000 on an absolutely uselessly absurd build, you can afford to have a custom loop built professionally.
[url]https://www.ekwb.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;50579810]No, it's not the equivalent. It's the equivalent of buying a stapler for a job. But increase the price by 7000x
The RAM is for being a ramdisk / mass calculations the need to be done fast - I'm actually writing a program to as much ram as it can for calculations.
Please stop shitposting. I literally asked one question and this all became about money that I am willing to spend for a job. This isn't going to be paid only by me. It's also tax deductible.
Now for real, who knows how to pick out liquid loops and such?[/QUOTE]
And what is this program calculating, exactly? I'm pretty sure having more than just two desktop i7 CPUs would be faster than any performance benefit gained from using a RAMDisk.
Furthermore, how does the RAMDisk even come into play in these calculations? Why is it accessing secondary storage so often that having less CPUs for a ridiculous amount of RAM to make RAMDisk(s) with is a worthy trade-off?
I really don't see it. And if you're going to continue to be in-denial about this abomination you've concocted, you can get your liquid cooling professionally done. No one here is going to help you.
[QUOTE=Revenge282;50579829]If you've got $27000 on an absolutely uselessly absurd build, you can afford to have a custom loop built professionally.
[url]https://www.ekwb.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
I wanted to say something like this, but didn't actually know anything to point OP to.
This times 10. If you're actually dropping $27,000 on something, don't let people on an internet forum make your purchasing decisions. Pay someone whose job it is to do this shit right.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;50579810]No, it's not the equivalent. It's the equivalent of buying a stapler for a job. But increase the price by 7000x
The RAM is for being a ramdisk / mass calculations the need to be done fast - I'm actually writing a program to as much ram as it can for calculations.
Please stop shitposting. I literally asked one question and this all became about money that I am willing to spend for a job. This isn't going to be paid only by me. It's also tax deductible.
Now for real, who knows how to pick out liquid loops and such?[/QUOTE]
Then I assume you've tried running your workload on [url=https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/]Amazon EC2[/url] for a couple dollars to get a reasonable estimate for the performance you need first, and you need this power for so long that renting it on EC2 would actually cost you more than 27k?
also real talk if your program needs a terabyte of ram to run
it probably could be better optimized
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;50579810]No, it's not the equivalent. It's the equivalent of buying a stapler for a job. But increase the price by 7000x[/QUOTE]
Is this your stapler?
[url]https://www.amazon.com/Casco-M-15L-Stapler-Large-Plated/dp/B000VC6XDK[/url]
The review for that stapler is pretty great.
idk about cooling loopies but i suggest u use [URL="http://www.acmemicro.com/Product/12003/Fusion-io-ioDrive-Octal-10-24TB-MLC-FS6-802-10T-CS-0001?gclid=CJnZ6vSvv80CFRY8gQodKJYPCQ"]this harddrive[/URL]
[QUOTE=Revenge282;50579829]If you've got $27000 on an absolutely uselessly absurd build, you can afford to have a custom loop built professionally.
[url]https://www.ekwb.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for being the only serious one on the thread! I will definitely check this out.
(for some reason this got deleted from the post when I made it, readded)
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;50579882]Then I assume you've tried running your workload on [url=https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/]Amazon EC2[/url] for a couple dollars to get a reasonable estimate for the performance you need first, and you need this power for so long that renting it on EC2 would actually cost you more than 27k?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I've tried and calculated a lot of things and have decided to go with this. It will also be useful for in the future if I ever need to do other calculations with it.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50579913]also real talk if your program needs a terabyte of ram to run
it probably could be better optimized[/QUOTE]
It's not using 1 TB of ram, it's using as much ram as it can for speeding up calculations.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;50579998]Thanks for being the only serious one on the thread! I will definitely check this out.
(for some reason this got deleted from the post when I made it, readded)
Yes, I've tried and calculated a lot of things and have decided to go with this. It will also be useful for in the future if I ever need to do other calculations with it.
It's not using 1 TB of ram, it's using as much ram as it can for speeding up calculations.[/QUOTE]
So it's using up to 1TB of RAM, then?
Having more RAM doesn't make your calculations faster if it's not using that amount of RAM in the first place.
a continuous month of utilization at 100% is still half as cheap as what you're spending
are you planning on simulating an entire universe for the next 10 years
[img]http://i.imgur.com/U1ZRSEX.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/zz6DdHv.png[/img]
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50580055]a continuous month of utilization at 100% is still half as cheap as what you're spending
are you planning on simulating an entire universe for the next 10 years
[img]http://i.imgur.com/U1ZRSEX.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/zz6DdHv.png[/img][/QUOTE]
not that he could simulate an entire universe with two desktop i7 CPUs anyway :v:
that's vcpu, ram, storage per instance btw
I know a cheaper option for you buddy: [url]http://downloadmoreram.com/[/url]
You want to host servers with $26K worth of enthusiast grade desktop parts in one rig?
Oh boy I don't even know where to begin...
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If under the 0.00001% rare circumstances that you legitimately are trying to build a server of some sort and do wanna spend $26K, consider sitting down with a server OEM rep instead. Or better yet, I suggest you leave this job to another team member
Take a look at LinusTechTips' "8 Gamers 1 CPU" rig, it might be exactly what you're looking for in a loop and case.
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[video=youtube;LXOaCkbt4lI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXOaCkbt4lI&feature=youtu.be[/video]
Enjoy two single QPI CPUs.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;50579913]also real talk if your program needs a terabyte of ram to run
it probably could be better optimized[/QUOTE]
eh, i've run a few research programs which really [I]do[/I] benefit from having 128GB+ to run searches on an entire DNA database
but that's biomedical research and not gaming
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;50580835]eh, i've run a few biomedical research programs which really [I]do[/I] benefit from having 128GB+ to run searches on an entire DNA database
but that's biomedical research and not gaming[/QUOTE]
128GB is still a far cry from 1TB as well :v:
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;50580835]eh, i've run a few biomedical research programs which really [I]do[/I] benefit from having 128GB+ to run searches on an entire DNA database
but that's biomedical research and not gaming[/QUOTE]
In 3DS Max, you can just drag a few sliders [I]just a bit too far[/I] and you'll suddenly be needing 1TB+ of RAM :v:
Don't do vm shit on a system that you plan on using for leisure time.
If you're serious about getting into Hyper-V/esxi buy a separate box and do it. You can buy a Dell Poweredge R710 with 48GB RAM and two Xeon 5507s which is more than adequate for virtual machines for like $300.
At least he picked out a good case.
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