His mobo only supports DDRI RAM, and Athlon 64 CPU's, that 5770 will do no big difference in TF2, since it will be bottlenecked into bottleneck-hell..
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;22410292]His mobo only supports DDRI RAM, and Athlon 64 CPU's, that 5770 will do no big difference in TF2, since it will be bottlenecked into bottleneck-hell..[/QUOTE]
Super Agree^
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;22410292]His mobo only supports DDRI RAM, and Athlon 64 CPU's, that 5770 will do no big difference in TF2, since it will be bottlenecked into bottleneck-hell..[/QUOTE]
TF2 is my smallest concern to be honest.
Im getting this card for 4 things.
Starcraft 2
NS2
Portal 2
Hl2Ep3
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I realize there is a lot of shit that goes into getting a new rig, which is basically what im doing, I plan on doing it step by step, progressively getting better and better.
I figured a GPU is the first priority for ME at least because i want to be able to play SC2 on something that isnt all low settings (Low settings on SC2 are WC3FT graphics,)
NS2 is Late down the road, along with Portal 2 and Ep3 so by then ill have a complete new rig.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;22419684]TF2 is my smallest concern to be honest.
Im getting this card for 4 things.
Starcraft 2
NS2
Portal 2
Hl2Ep3
[editline]01:51PM[/editline]
I realize there is a lot of shit that goes into getting a new rig, which is basically what im doing, I plan on doing it step by step, progressively getting better and better.
I figured a GPU is the first priority for ME at least because i want to be able to play SC2 on something that isnt all low settings (Low settings on SC2 are WC3FT graphics,)
NS2 is Late down the road, along with Portal 2 and Ep3 so by then ill have a complete new rig.[/QUOTE]
It's not just TF2, your processor would bottleneck ALL new games and it needs replacing in order to run new games well. You don't want to buy the computer in little tiny increments, the parts go obsolete, and it isn't the best bang for the buck. You want to save up, and buy a whole new rig, that won't have any super bottlenecks, dumping money on your old computer would not be an efficient way to spend it. (unless you can salvage the power supply, Optical drive, and case granted their good enough)
Agree^
Your computer will not run it much better, just because of a new GPU, but it will be cheaper to wait, and then buy a whole computer. I understand that you want to do it piece by piece, but at first, one component will be bottlenecked, then, when you buy the next component, the first component may be slightly outdated, and both will be bottlenecked. And so on. When you are done with changing all the components, you will be left with a not good proportioned computer. On the other hand; it is critical that you change your mobo, and when you changed that, you'll have to change everything, but the GPU, HDD and optical drives. And it that case your GPU would be bottlenecked, you would need a 64-bit OS, and with that you would probably like a faster HDD, than you got right now, and so on. If you don't change the mobo, you will be able to build a good computer; if you buy a new mobo, you will have to buy a whole new system.
Simplified; Just wait till you got more money, and then return here.
Nah im already getting the card, Moneys not easy to come around for me, even with a job. I have been saving a year for getting a new GPU, All my shit can support it anyways.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;22422059]Nah im already getting the card, Moneys not easy to come around for me, even with a job. I have been saving a year for getting a new GPU, All my shit can support it anyways.[/QUOTE]
Ok, it's your money, but don't say we didn't warn you when your computer struggles to play TF2, SC2, and many other games on much more then medium. The G-card will not fix the other hardware in your case. I'd hate to see you waste your hard earned money, especially when you've been saving for so long.
[QUOTE=GWeasel;22422169]Ok, it's your money, but don't say we didn't warn you when your computer struggles to play TF2, SC2, and many other games [B]on much more then medium[/B]. The G-card will not fix the other hardware in your case. I'd hate to see you waste your hard earned money, especially when you've been saving for so long.[/QUOTE]
Most of the graphics calculations are done on the GPU, the CPU doesn't have much influence on graphics. The problem here is that the cpu has to calculate everything else, like physics, ai, sound, etc. For every frame rendered, the CPU must first determine the current state of the scene (the positions of all objects and such), so the GPU can then draw the scene. If the cpu is too slow and can't update the scene fast enough, the framerate will be low regardless of how good the gpu is.
What all this means is, that he will get low framerates in most newer games, even on low settings, while higher graphical settings usually won't bring any additional performance drop.
[QUOTE=GWeasel;22422169]Ok, it's your money, but don't say we didn't warn you when your computer struggles to play TF2, SC2, and many other games on much more then medium. The G-card will not fix the other hardware in your case. I'd hate to see you waste your hard earned money, especially when you've been saving for so long.[/QUOTE]
He can already play TF2. But what Gweasel is pointing out, OP, is that you will be dissapointed in the future when you cannot play newer games.
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[QUOTE=xXDarklingXx;22393131]Get a 9800GT and 4 gigs of RAM. If your looking for like 300$ for those two, you should definitly try NewEgg if your in the US.
That is if your Motherboard supports them.[/QUOTE]
9800 GT? Aren't they overpriced for their performance compared to Ati cards on the same tier?
[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;22423949]He can already play TF2. But what Gweasel is pointing out, OP, is that you will be dissapointed in the future when you cannot play newer games.
[editline]01:48PM[/editline]
9800 GT? Aren't they overpriced for their performance compared to Ati cards on the same tier?[/QUOTE]
Hey falco, Post #30 in this thread, I pointed out the lack of research on that graphics card recommendation.
[QUOTE=GWeasel;22424154]Hey falco, Post #30 in this thread, I pointed out the lack of research on that graphics card recommendation.[/QUOTE]
Oh, Okie. Just trying to contribute.
[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;22424757]Oh, Okie. Just trying to contribute.[/QUOTE]
Thanks anyway :cheers:
[QUOTE=GWeasel;22425035]Thanks anyway :cheers:[/QUOTE]
No you're an '10er. Just kidding. :glomp:
[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;22423949]
9800 GT? Aren't they overpriced for their performance compared to Ati cards on the same tier?[/QUOTE]
when they were released: not really.
now: yes.
[QUOTE=Makol;22425627]when they were released: not really.
now: yes.[/QUOTE]
Right after the hd 4770 came out really. (funny story, I have that card, and I overclocked the crap out of it last week, it's now beating 9800 GTX + in benchmarks) Gotta love 40nm
[editline]04:56PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;22425501]No you're an '10er. Just kidding. :glomp:[/QUOTE]
Lol, the actual difference in time from when we registered is probably like, not even a week. Oh, and I'm not really a 10'er, I've been here since like, August '09, just didn't have much to say in 09.
how long ago was the 4770 released?
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I completely forgot about it.
[QUOTE=Makol;22425837]how long ago was the 4770 released?
[editline]02:59PM[/editline]
I completely forgot about it.[/QUOTE]
April 28, 2009. I bought mine on newegg on June 21st, they were sold out of them for weeks at a time, I was glad I sniped it in time.
I still have a 4670 :saddowns: but I'm getting a 5770 soon.
[QUOTE=Makol;22425950]I still have a 4670 :saddowns: but I'm getting a 5770 soon.[/QUOTE]
Me too. Getting a 5770, 4850, or a 4770 after my build turns one year old (January). Anyway, I also say that OP should save up for a new build.
[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;22426294]Me too. Getting a 5770, 4850, or a 4770 after my build turns one year old (January). Anyway, I also say that OP should save up for a new build.[/QUOTE]
get either the 5770 or the 4850, 4770 is much of an upgrade.
[QUOTE=Makol;22426350]get either the 5770 or the 4850, 4770 is much of an upgrade.[/QUOTE]
This is mostly true, on stock clocks the 4850 is slightly better then the 4770. My overclocked one is almost up there with a 5770 in terms of performance with a 100 mhz core OC and a 250 mhz OC on the GDDR5 Memory.
But in all practicality, by the time you're in the market for cards, there is a strong chance something new will be out that beats all three of these cards for price/performance
[QUOTE=GWeasel;22426896]This is mostly true, on stock clocks the 4850 is slightly better then the 4770. My overclocked one is almost up there with a 5770 in terms of performance with a 100 mhz core OC and a 250 mhz OC on the GDDR5 Memory.
But in all practicality, by the time you're in the market for cards, there is a strong chance something new will be out that beats all three of these cards for price/performance[/QUOTE]
Yeh, I know. I made a thread about it couple weeks ago and sbradford pointed that out. However, I would still be using 1366x768 resolution since I will not upgrade my monitor, and those cards would be cheaper.
Alright, after reading some of the newer posts,
Could someone give me a list of priority's of hardware or a list of all the components i need to have a good running comp.
Like whats most important for fast performance but has good quality.
And what sort of things should i be getting?
(power supply and HD do not need to be replaced,)
[editline]08:11PM[/editline]
I also dont know if i have to replace my motherboard, I really hope i dont.
Currently its a
asus a8n32-sli Deluxe.
Most important in gaming are the CPU and the GPU. RAM comes second. Then, third is the case. Must be red for fast performance.
[editline]05:26PM[/editline]
Yes replace your motherboard. Also, what was your PSU again?
[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;22428688]Most important in gaming are the CPU and the GPU. RAM comes second. Then, third is the case. Must be red for fast performance.
[editline]05:26PM[/editline]
Yes replace your motherboard. Also, what was your PSU again?[/QUOTE]
What motherboard should i get? it needs to be 12x9.5
Psu is Neo HE 550w
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;22371822][b]Not a fanboy, just really like there cards[/b], this card has worked so well for over 6 years and according to the reviews on that card.
Cons: -It's dying 3 months into owning it, clicked refresh on the windows experience index and the video completely cut until i restarted, can't play games for more than 10 minutes at times till it dies and thats when they even get passed the main menu
Other Thoughts: I'll never buy XFX again, had a PNY gtx 260 before this for 2 years and it never had issues like this.
I do not want something like that.[/QUOTE]
Annnnd that would be the definition of fanboy.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;22430586]What motherboard should i get? it needs to be 12x9.5
Psu is Neo HE 550w[/QUOTE]
Cool. So you're building your PC not for a while?
[QUOTE=FalcoLombardi;22430966]Cool. So you're building your PC not for a while?[/QUOTE]
Apparently, if the GPU and RAM wont be worth shit unless i get a better CPU, which requires me to get a new MotherBoard.
Yep, so post a new thread when the time comes.
Quick question.
What would be a good motherbored?
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