Android thread V-garychencool finally rooted his phone and got ICS edition - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=loophole;38893829]My mother bought a shitty one from china, and it does not have any sort of way to tell where the buttons are on the sides, and they are really hard to press. It is the worst shit. Don't by cheap china shit.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-i9300-Galaxy-Skin-Cover/dp/B0082AXB7Y/ref=sr_1_82?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1354212242&sr=1-82[/url] I bought this (or rather my girlfriend got it me for christmas with a lot of other shit) and it looks perfect it's TPU, so it won't stick in my pocket or move around loads, it's matte white so it looks sexy, and most importantly, it goes ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PHONE, I can't stress enough how I hate cases that clip onto the sides and leave the bottom and top open, they just look so ugly :v: Time will tell if the buttons are easy to press with it though, I never really thought about that

[QUOTE=lavacano;38888573]for the same reasons they decided that SD card slots were bad a.k.a. someone at Google has no fucking idea what they're doing[/QUOTE] sdcard slots get pretty confusing sometimes in the context of android but the response to that shouldn't be 'stop including them' [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] especially when no one except HTC seems to be putting enough (32GB) storage in their phones

I wasn't able to see very well from the pictures but it does actually have a small bump over the power and volume keys, so it should be fine

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;38894008]Time will tell if the buttons are easy to press with it though, I never really thought about that[/QUOTE] The note on one of the customer images says "seems to get easier to press after a few days use" so maybe it will be a pain in the ass at first but it should get better

[QUOTE=lavacano;38894143]The note on one of the customer images says "seems to get easier to press after a few days use" so maybe it will be a pain in the ass at first but it should get better[/QUOTE] Yeah, hopefully, ANYTHING will be a step up from pressing the lock key on my DZ, the tactile feedback you get is from your finger squishing into the body, seeing as the button is basically embedded into the body, and doesn't click :v: [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] I just want something to keep my new baby safe [IMG]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-allears.gif[/IMG]

I like how my Sony Ericsson x10i is running 4.1.2 while my Sony Xperia V is running 4.0.4 :v:

I use one of these cases: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DCXJW.jpg[/IMG] Cheap, looks decent and gives you much more grip than a naked S3.

Not a fan of those cases that for some reason have a two tone body I like the look of the matte white one though

[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;38893917]follow the guide in this thread [url]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036229[/url] this is for CM10.1 which is a whole version ahead of the leaked builds plus it's stock android which rocks[/QUOTE] Thanks for that, though its still a bit confusing. Do I really want the 4.2.1 release or should I get the 4.1.2 one? Also, does that one include Google Now? Also, what is the risk of bricking it? and what can you do in the event there are problems?

Also I'm no businessman and somebody (probs Kaabi) will correct me, but surely if Google didn't release the google maps app on iOS, they would be able to have a big advantage over them? I know A LOT of people who didn't update to iOS6 so they wouldn't lose google maps

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;38894603]Also I'm no businessman and somebody (probs Kaabi) will correct me, but surely if Google didn't release the google maps app on iOS, they would be able to have a big advantage over them? I know A LOT of people who didn't update to iOS6 so they wouldn't lose google maps[/QUOTE] No you're right, they would have a big advantage. But iOS did get it. When you look at the whole thing, Apple got exactly what they wanted. They got Google Maps with all the advantages of the Android version, and some people say it's better than Android's app. I only have an iPad and I'm not dealing with the bullshit of a scaled phone app so I haven't used it much.

[QUOTE=K1ngo64;38887921]I still have no idea why they sided to deprecate it. If I had to pick between a dedicated menu button and a dedicated 'recent apps' button I'd pick the menu button any day of the week. How fucking hard is it to hold Home to access the recent apps list? [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] Also I use the menu button much more frequently than the 'recent apps' button[/QUOTE] Gonna have to disagree completely here, the menu button is utterly useless. I have Galaxy Nexus, which only pops-up a menu button in apps designed for GB that use it (which for me is only the facebook app), otherwise on a phone without a physical menu button it just pops-up in the action bar at the top of the app, which actually gives you visual feedback that the app has settings available rather than the crapshoot you get with a physical menu button. The recent apps button is incredibly useful, since I can switch between active apps in less than a second, having to hold down the home button makes it feel faster to just go back to the homescreen and open it there. The menu button is one of the main reasons why I would never buy an S3 unless I was putting CM10 on it, since you can rebind the buttons.

[QUOTE=nikomo;38890760]It's Mono, on Android. Mono alone shouldn't exist, let alone sticking it on fucking Android. I don't care how much you've worked with C# or .NET, you should just stick with something you can find support for in case you need help. And what if the project dies off, or breaks and can't be fixed?[/QUOTE] Not to mention a personal license costs $399 and the trial only lets you use your app in the emulator.

[QUOTE=Kaabii;38895001]No you're right, they would have a big advantage. But iOS did get it. When you look at the whole thing, Apple got exactly what they wanted. They got Google Maps with all the advantages of the Android version, and some people say it's better than Android's app. I only have an iPad and I'm not dealing with the bullshit of a scaled phone app so I haven't used it much.[/QUOTE] Yeah it feels better on the iOS version, it's really smooth too, that kind of annoys me seeing as google put more effort into making it nice on the iPhone than they have on their own phone OS, but I guess a reform for android will come later, seeing as they just wanted to get it on the appstore as soon as they could. I reckon good guy Google didn't want to leave iPhone users stranded without proper navigation.

[QUOTE=Sergeant Turtle;38895213]Gonna have to disagree completely here, the menu button is utterly useless. I have Galaxy Nexus, which only pops-up a menu button in apps designed for GB that use it (which for me is only the facebook app), otherwise on a phone without a physical menu button it just pops-up in the action bar at the top of the app, which actually gives you visual feedback that the app has settings available rather than the crapshoot you get with a physical menu button. The recent apps button is incredibly useful, since I can switch between active apps in less than a second, having to hold down the button makes it feel faster to just go back to the homescreen and open it there. The menu button is one of the main reasons why I would never buy an S3 unless I was putting CM10 on it, since you can rebind the buttons.[/QUOTE] Well yeah, often the menu button option doesn't exist in some parts of an app and having that on screen makes everything easier. I hate pressing my home screen, I'd rather tap and hold the menu button to access the switch apps or something like that. And sometimes you're just pressing the menu button to see if there's a menu in it.

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;38895500]Yeah it feels better on the iOS version, it's really smooth too, that kind of annoys me seeing as google put more effort into making it nice on the iPhone than they have on their own phone OS, but I guess a reform for android will come later, seeing as they just wanted to get it on the appstore as soon as they could. [b]I reckon good guy Google didn't want to leave iPhone users stranded without proper navigation.[/b][/QUOTE] No that's absolutely ridiculous, that whole mentality about Google is ridiculous. They're a business. They do things for financial gain. They wouldn't just make an app because they're being nice. iOS isn't insignificant just because Android has more market share. iOS users utilize the web more, and Google would be foolish to not capitalize on them sending their location data and other information through their apps.

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;38893556]What GS3 cases do people use? or do they just leave the phone naked[/QUOTE] official side flip case it owns

[QUOTE=Kaabii;38895570]No that's absolutely ridiculous, that whole mentality about Google is ridiculous. They're a business. They do things for financial gain. They wouldn't just make an app because they're being nice. iOS isn't insignificant just because Android has more market share. iOS users utilize the web more, and Google would be foolish to not capitalize on them sending their location data and other information through their apps.[/QUOTE] It was a joke [img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/cheeky.001.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;38895616]It was a joke [img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/cheeky.001.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Sorry but there's a lot of cases where it's spoken literally. People take "don't be evil" way too seriously and they think Google is some company created by god to help the everyday person selflessly. [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] Don't get me wrong though, they do a lot of things right, and they do them well. But sometimes they really don't give a fuck about what's better for the consumer. [url=http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-andy-rubin-nexus-7-may-head-to-retail/]Google won't be changing its attitude towards tablet-native apps anytime soon.[/url]

[QUOTE=Kaabii;38895640]Sorry but there's a lot of cases where it's spoken literally. People take "don't be evil" way too seriously and they think Google is some company created by god to help the everyday person selflessly.[/QUOTE] Yeah I should probably of posted the sarc mark with that, my bad [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] but I'd say Google are my favorite company overall, seeing as I rely on their products/services every day of my life and I've not really had any major problems, but as you said no company is selfless or makes the right decisions every time

I like Google :)

I just ordered a [URL="http://www.ebay.com/itm/260999803558"]pouch (this one fits the N4 fine according to N4 owners)[/URL] and a [URL="http://www.rearthusa.com/google-nexus-4-ringke-slim-case"]case[/URL]* for my Nexus 4. I won't have the Nexus 4 for about a month still. I think I need help. [I]* Did the same with my Galaxy S2, then decided which one is better to use.[/I]

[QUOTE=Kaabii;38895640]Sorry but there's a lot of cases where it's spoken literally. People take "don't be evil" way too seriously and they think Google is some company created by god to help the everyday person selflessly. [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] Don't get me wrong though, they do a lot of things right, and they do them well. But sometimes they really don't give a fuck about what's better for the consumer. [url=http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-andy-rubin-nexus-7-may-head-to-retail/]Google won't be changing its attitude towards tablet-native apps anytime soon.[/url][/QUOTE] Maybe google is working on some sort of way to working around people actually recognizing it as 'blown-up phone apps'. Better scaling, improved systems that allow for better designing for both form factors etc

[QUOTE=Kaabii;38895640]Sorry but there's a lot of cases where it's spoken literally. People take "don't be evil" way too seriously and they think Google is some company created by god to help the everyday person selflessly. [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] Don't get me wrong though, they do a lot of things right, and they do them well. But sometimes they really don't give a fuck about what's better for the consumer. [url=http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-andy-rubin-nexus-7-may-head-to-retail/]Google won't be changing its attitude towards tablet-native apps anytime soon.[/url][/QUOTE] Well having separate apps for phone and tablets [B]MIGHT[/B] make easier for the dev's to make tablet centric and phone centric apps, BUT for those devices stuck in the middle (phablets) it'll just fuck 'em over. Also with such a vast different type of devices that the Android "ecosystem" consists of, implementing proper scaling from the get-go when developing apps is only good practice. [editline]derp[/editline] semi-ninja'd, whatever.

And maybe not, but let's be a optimisitc if they already flat-out stated they won't be working on actual tablet app related things :(

[QUOTE=tom1029;38894413]Thanks for that, though its still a bit confusing. Do I really want the 4.2.1 release or should I get the 4.1.2 one? Also, does that one include Google Now? Also, what is the risk of bricking it? and what can you do in the event there are problems?[/QUOTE] 4.2.1 is just as stable as 4.1.2 in my experience, the one bug I've found is that mobile hotspot doesn't work but that'll be fixed in a few days. Plus I think they;ve transferred development entirely over to 4.2.1 now so you might as well stay updated. Bricking an S2 is basically impossible, just follow the instructions and even if it does go wrong you can just download your factory firmware from samfirmware,com and flash it over, the most you'll lose is the data on your phone (but you'll be deleting this the first time you flash so back up!) [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Kaabii;38895640] Don't get me wrong though, they do a lot of things right, and they do them well. But sometimes they really don't give a fuck about what's better for the consumer. [url=http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-andy-rubin-nexus-7-may-head-to-retail/]Google won't be changing its attitude towards tablet-native apps anytime soon.[/url][/QUOTE] how is this bad? it just means that developers are encouraged to make sure that their app adjusts to fit different screen sizes rather than have separate tablet/phone versions or even worse stretched phone versions

Man the Nexus 4 is pretty damn amazing.

[QUOTE=Van-man;38896254]Well having separate apps for phone and tablets [B]MIGHT[/B] make easier for the dev's to make tablet centric and phone centric apps, BUT for those devices stuck in the middle (phablets) it'll just fuck 'em over. Also with such a vast different type of devices that the Android "ecosystem" consists of, implementing proper scaling from the get-go when developing apps is only good practice. [editline]derp[/editline] semi-ninja'd, whatever.[/QUOTE] if an app supports both why not a prompt on phablets for whether you want it to display in phone or tablet mode give the user a fair chance to try both and once they decide there will be a checkbox saying "Don't show this again"

[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;38896628] how is this bad? it just means that developers are encouraged to make sure that their app adjusts to fit different screen sizes rather than have separate tablet/phone versions or even worse stretched phone versions[/QUOTE] I have some apps that only run on iPad, and they're that way because making it for phones would compromise the experience. [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] Oh and having single apps encourages laziness. This is backed up by almost the entirety of Google Play apps run on tablets. Like when you download Youtube for an iPad or Skype, it's not the same .ipa that the phone version is. Where as most .apks I have basically run on any Android device. And that's a GOOD THING to an extent, because it allows the apps to work on many different devices. But when you have a 10" tablet displaying the same info as a 4" phone, you've clearly got a problem.

[QUOTE=lavacano;38896721]if an app supports both why not a prompt on phablets for whether you want it to display in phone or tablet mode give the user a fair chance to try both and once they decide there will be a checkbox saying "Don't show this again"[/QUOTE] See "stuck in the middle" Where it'll be shit on both versions, just in different ways. Hence why proper app scaling from get-go is the best way to tackle it. [I]"BUT hey, why care about that, when you can just write a phone app and let Android itself upscale it." [/I]