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[QUOTE=garrynohome;38156047][url]http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/22/samsung-to-cut-the-cord-end-lcd-panel-supply-relationship-with-apple/[/url] This is interesting, because it's not going to hurt anyone but themselves. Apple will just go to LG and Sharp to make the panels they need, and it'll just get worse if Apple moves SoC production to TSMC and buys their NAND elsewhere etc. Hope it was worth it Samsung, could have just licensed some of that stuff like Microsoft and all of this would have been avoided. EDIT: This line is confusing. So half as much per pixel, with 4x the pixels, means you made twice as much per panel on average. What were they thinking!?[/QUOTE] Bit late there, samsung has already released a statement saying that they won't stop supplying apple. [url]http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/10/23/samsung-havent-cut-lcd-supply-for-apple/[/url]
[QUOTE=superstepa;38156292]I am still amazed by how well does the s3 sells A year ago everyone had an iphone, now almost every second person I know has an SGSIII[/QUOTE] I only know a couple people with the S3, it's odd considering how I know carriers push the thing on consumers like crazy. Then again, all of the people I know don't get a new phone until 2.5-3 years is passed depending on how much they pay their carrier. [editline]24th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=mobrockers2;38156405]Bit late there, samsung has already released a statement saying that they won't stop supplying apple. [url]http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/10/23/samsung-havent-cut-lcd-supply-for-apple/[/url][/QUOTE] Ah brilliant, thanks for clearing that up. It seemed really strange to tell someone you won't take their money just because you're sore about a single court victory.
[QUOTE=kaukassus;38148049]what do you don't like about it? the size? software?[/QUOTE] I love the phone itself, the hardware. I just realized the problem with the screen continued to Note II wich made me sad. The yellow tint problem drove me insane the first month with my SGSII, I eventually got over it and used it normally. The screen on my Note II is much better and you can't really notice any issues unless you concentrate so hard your eyes plays tricks on you. But knowing it's there hurts me. I will get over it, I decided that I'm gonna keep using it and then buy a new one when it gets worse, or Note III if it's out. The phone itself is amazing, absolutely amazing.
[QUOTE=SweFox*;38156465]I love the phone itself, the hardware. I just realized the problem with the screen continued to Note II wich made me sad. The yellow tint problem drove me insane the first month with my SGSII, I eventually got over it and used it normally. The screen on my Note II is much better and you can't really notice any issues unless you concentrate so hard your eyes plays tricks on you. But knowing it's there hurts me. I will get over it, I decided that I'm gonna keep using it and then buy a new one when it gets worse, or Note III if it's out. The phone itself is amazing, absolutely amazing.[/QUOTE] The Note II has the best screen Samsung has put out so far. [img]http://i.imgur.com/5t5tj.jpg[/img] I don't know about sRGB calibrations or whatever, but it's full RGB subpixels.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38156659]The Note II has the best screen Samsung has put out so far.[/QUOTE] Maybe the Note III can have an even better screen with even less visible of these issues :).
[QUOTE=SweFox*;38157004]Maybe the Note III can have an even better screen with even less visible of these issues :).[/QUOTE] No, Samsung doesn't care because the average consumer is ignorant. People always complain about these issues, then they go out and buy another AMOLED device. [quote]Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. -Albert Einstein[/quote] It'll change when people tell them they won't buy any more of their phones until they start calibrating them. A lot of these "issues" with burn in and dying subpixels that people think are inevitable aren't helped when Samsung uses so much blue in their user interface and has the display temperature so damn high.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;38157120]No, Samsung doesn't care because the average consumer is ignorant. People always complain about these issues, then they go out and buy another AMOLED device. It'll change when people tell them they won't buy any more of their phones until they start calibrating them. A lot of these "issues" with burn in and dying subpixels that people think are inevitable aren't helped when Samsung uses so much blue in their user interface and has the display temperature so damn high.[/QUOTE] I choose Samsung because I love their design, their software etc. Should I really be blamed for buying their phones and then have to live with their faults? There is no other brands I want, I want Samsung and it's not because I'm a fanboy but because they make phones I want.
[QUOTE=reevezy67;38155426]Newer Android phones usually have better specs than iPhones, larger screen, standard micro USB etc. Doesn't mean they are better devices, it's all personal preference.[/QUOTE] Remember the iPhone 4? It had a single core while Android phones like the S2 had a dual core and was generally way faster but the again iOS doesn't use up as much resources as Android so it would seem just as smooth, following the use of their cheating on rendering. You were basically looking at a photo as you scroll. At this point a lot of people went for the S2 and other Android phones because it was faster spec wise, some didn't care, and iPhone is an iPhone and they'll buy it anyways. Some months later the 4S came out and was like a middle finger to everyone who got the 4, it pissed off a lot of people. There was a dual core, better screen and everything. Literally the same body with better specs, screen and camera. A lot of students for the 4 during back to school sales/time. The hardware isn't that bad, the 4 is still faster than my phone in many ways (anything is really) and the 4S is even better. The 4S sold a lot because of what happened a few days earlier. Overall, the iPhone isn't bad. It's comparable to the high end Android phones today. It costs about the same and works somewhat the same. It's all down to personal preference, I don't like iOS because I can't change stuff as much and I already spent money in the Play Store and I like the Google integration more, stuff like Drive and Gmail I've been using for years.
The Android video is kind of true, but to be perfectly honest I do propose custom ROMs sometimes when I know a problem is only present in stock ROMs. Usually I only recommend modified stock ROMs though, AOSP tends to be a mess of issues.
I know some CNET writers can be a bit on the android side, but this article pretty much expresses everything I think. Its also just a good article. [url=http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57538617-251/fact-checking-phil-schiller-on-ipad-mini-vs-nexus-7/]Fact Checking Phil Schiller...[/url]
[QUOTE=sdwise;38158926]I know some CNET writers can be a bit on the android side, but this article pretty much expresses everything I think. Its also just a good article. [url=http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57538617-251/fact-checking-phil-schiller-on-ipad-mini-vs-nexus-7/]Fact Checking Phil Schiller...[/url][/QUOTE] [quote]the iPad Mini's 1,024x768-pixel resolution doesn't quite stand up to the Nexus 7's 1,280x800-pixel screen.[/quote] No, the Nexus 7 screen falls short in every area except resolution, the writer clearly is incapable of telling a good screen from a bad one if he's judging based solely on resolution. [quote]This one could be argued on both sides. I'll admit that Android tablet apps could still use some polish. Generally iOS apps are of higher quality and usually look better than their Android counterparts. On the other hand, many Android apps have been written for Android 4.0 and later, most of which employ the Holo aesthetic. Also, while I'm being honest, Android developers do not have to write for tablets now that we've gone back to unifying the platform at Ice Cream Sandwich. Apps can revert to scaling on a larger display, yes, but that's only if the developer doesn't write them to perform differently. Should developers take advantage of the tools at their disposal, [b]they can write one app that operates and displays differently across many sizes. To me, this sounds better than writing one for phones and another for tablets.[/b][/quote] That is exactly the same thing as compiling two versions of an app with different UI functionality. Either way, you still have to make two interfaces. Android tablet apps are overall worse due to a bunch of factors including the fact that the Nexus 7 has been the only successful Android tablet and it's very new. The best example has always been the twitter client. [quote]I find it ironic that Apple only brings up how thin and light its products are when it matters. As we learned today, the iPad Mini is only 7.2 millimeters thick (0.28 inch) and weighs in at a featherlike 308 grams (0.68 pound). Thinking back to the iPhone 5 announcement, we were repeatedly told just how thin and light it was, and that it was a fraction of the previous iteration. Going back to the iPad 3, Apple said very little of the fact that it actually was fatter and heavier than its predecessor. At 9.4mm thick (0.37 inch), that porker of a fourth-generation iPad is nearly 7 percent fatter than the iPad 2. I suppose it's all in the perspective, eh?[/quote] Yah except the iPad still has the best display on any mobile device, and it requires an obscenely large battery. Apple never touted the thinness of the new iPad because it's not super thin. This applies to all OEMs honestly. Are manufacturers supposed to claim that the device is not the thinnest when they announce a device that doesn't shatter a world record for thinness or something? That's ridiculous. How about I flip this logic around. When Flash was on Android the users shoved it in the faces of WP7 and iOS users, but now that it's gone they just said "It's for the best, Flash sucked." All about perspective eh? [quote]We know it's an A5, but we also know that the Nexus 7 has a quad-core Tegra 3 chip. So at least on paper, the Android tablet bests the Apple tablet on multiple fronts.[/quote] Completely ignoring GPU rendering, processing, etc as well as software optimisations. Sorry but when the fact checkers need their own fact check and it turns out the article had a lot of fiction, I personally wouldn't call it a "good article". [editline]24th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=garychencool;38158201]Remember the iPhone 4? It had a single core while Android phones like the S2 had a dual core and was generally way faster but the again iOS doesn't use up as much resources as Android so it would seem just as smooth, [b]following the use of their cheating on rendering. You were basically looking at a photo as you scroll.[/b] At this point a lot of people went for the S2 and other Android phones because it was faster spec wise, some didn't care, and iPhone is an iPhone and they'll buy it anyways. [/QUOTE] OK the S2 came 9 months after the 4, that's hardly fair to say they were behind when it launched because NINE months later something came and topped it. Also it's code optimisation and usage of less resources, that S2 still isn't as smooth as an iPhone 4 is. The 4S came A YEAR AND A HALF LATER. That's longer than their typical once a year refresh, who would see their phone being the flagship for longer as a "middle finger"? Also the 4S didn't have a better screen. I'd also like some elaboration on the parts I bolded. Not having shit code in a bloated heavy launguage is hardly "cheating on rendering". [editline]24th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;38156659]The Note II has the best screen Samsung has put out so far. [img]http://i.imgur.com/5t5tj.jpg[/img] I don't know about sRGB calibrations or whatever, but it's full RGB subpixels.[/QUOTE] The best of the worst? It's definitely the best display they've put out though, you can just see the difference in text from those pictures. [editline]24th October 2012[/editline] It's interesting to see the subpixel rendering for PenTile though. How that horizontal stroke in the 'e' is made up of 11 subpixels on the PenTile display and 15 subpixels on the RGB display.
Is there an app that is the equivalent to the S Note on the Samsung Note 10.1? Would be really nice to do sketch-up Maths homework on the Nexus 7.
[del]Just checked on a YT video, S Note is present on the Note 10.1. Then again, I think it wouldn't make much sense to exclude it since it has all the cool pen features.[/del] Disregard, I'm dumb.
[QUOTE=iCole;38163150]Just checked on a YT video, S Note is present on the Note 10.1. Then again, I think it wouldn't make much sense to exclude it since it has all the cool pen features.[/QUOTE] No, he means an s note app (like s note on the note 10.1), but for his nexus 7.
... I'm retarded. This is what not sleeping does to you.
Hmm, 40% battery drain on my S2 from listening to music with data+wifi+Bluetooth antennas off from 8:00 am to 10:00 am. And very minimal screen time, enough to occasionally change music tracks. Anyone know what the S2's charge retention is like? I know the iPhone 4's was rated at 80% after 400 full recharges, but I somehow doubt the same is true for the S2's. In any case a new battery appears to be needed for me. That's also why I'm still considering buying a Galaxy Nexus over the new Nexus 4, removable battery. It is a big selling point for me, mostly because I always remove my battery during exams/midterms.
Press shots of the LG Nexus 4: [IMG]http://androidos.in/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lg-nexus-4-press.jpg[/IMG] [url]http://androidos.in/2012/10/lg-nexus-4-press-shot-emerges-finally-brings-the-nexus-logo-on-the-back/[/url] Looking hot IMO. [obligatory 32GB version comment] [editline]24th October 2012[/editline] ok woah wait a second, the status bar doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;38154616]That's ridiculous. People have been wanting a larger screen, and better playback for HD content, but they didn't want to increase the width of the device so they made it longer. It honestly just brings the apps that fit on a homescreen in line with the iPad. [editline]23rd October 2012[/editline] And yet that puny screen has the same chroma resolution as all of Samsung's 720p devices. Hooray for PenTile![/QUOTE] It was a joke :zoid:
[QUOTE=iCole;38163989]Press shots of the LG Nexus 4:[/QUOTE] I thought the sparkly back was gone in recent shots. The bottom nav buttons look tacked on to me.
Hot damn the Note2 is fucking amazing. [editline]24th October 2012[/editline] also, I like my 50GB dropbox
[QUOTE=Jarnz;38164076]I thought the sparkly back was gone in recent shots. The bottom nav buttons look tacked on to me.[/QUOTE] The UI is likely faked (or AOKP), the rest seems real though. And I love the sparkly back, it should definitely stay. Those pics where it was gone were a photoshop I think.
The sparkly back reminds me of the Nexus LWP..
[QUOTE=Lyoko774;38164666]The sparkly back reminds me of the Nexus LWP..[/QUOTE] And that's exactly why it should stay.
[QUOTE=kaukassus;38164334]Hot damn the Note2 is fucking amazing. [editline]24th October 2012[/editline] also, I like my 50GB dropbox[/QUOTE] Indeed. 50GB for 2 years aren't bad at all. Gratz btw.
I almost never use my Dropbox...
Meh I've got 3GB of permanent space I'll never fill
[QUOTE=jlj1;38165863]Meh I've got 3GB of permanent space I'll never fill[/QUOTE] I filled all 7 GB I had right now once, but that's because I was using it to sync music between my phone and PC.
And plus I use Google Drive a lot already.
So guys, what do you think is a great phone for my mother? Should be ~200-300€, has to have a good camera and a nice battery life. What would you guys say?
[QUOTE=tratzzz;38167103]So guys, what do you think is a great phone for my mother? Should be ~200-300€, has to have a good camera and a nice battery life. What would you guys say?[/QUOTE] RAZR i Galaxy SII Nokia Lumia 800/900
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