Some Linux distributions have very similar GUIs to Windows and are easy to use (Ubuntu,KDE,Mint). But, at least in my school, we used to be taught pseudolanguages that are not really programming languages, and needed a certain compiler that did not exist for Linux.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy422;16823143]Windows runs applications that linux doesn't (Think AutoCAD, all the learning programs, etc.). Running an emulator just to use those ruins the point of using Linux in the first place.
The reason a lot of schools don't use macs is because macs are useless for business, AutoCAD, etc. My Elementary school had iMacs but as soon as i went to Middle/High school they started using PCs.[/QUOTE]
also, this
Because (this is especially valid at university level), specialist programs often aren't made for Linux.
A couple of areas at my Uni have Linux PCs, for example, a couple of those in the music department have it but most of the 1300+ computers just have XP.
Many of the specialist programs (e.g. chemistry drawing programs, engineering programs etc) only work on Windows.
[QUOTE=mike;16823236]Because (this is especially valid at university level), specialist programs often aren't made for Linux.
A couple of areas at my Uni have Linux PCs, for example, a couple of those in the music department have it but most of the 1300+ computers just have XP.
Many of the specialist programs (e.g. chemistry drawing programs, engineering programs etc) only work on Windows.[/QUOTE]
I thought we werent talking about Universities, because mine does have Linux too.
Most people at the school I went to couldn't even use Windows. :/
[QUOTE=Dark-ar;16823269]I thought we werent talking about Universities, because mine does have Linux too.[/QUOTE]
I used it as an example. My old school used specialist drawing programs as well whcih wouldn't run on Linux.
Schools in my area and all the schools I know use mac cause they are fucktarded.
It's kinda fun to covertly upload viruses to the library computers.
[QUOTE=mike;16823346]I used it as an example. My old school used specialist drawing programs as well whcih wouldn't run on Linux.[/QUOTE]
ok
Windows is moar popular. Everyone goes for the popular kids. :frogc00l:
Microsoft pay schools to use their shit.
[QUOTE=rieda1589;16823500]Microsoft pay schools to use their shit.[/QUOTE]
No they don't
[QUOTE=_Underlined_;16821092]So just think for a second. Why do schools use Windows, when all they need are internet, office utilities and maybe a time keeper program. They pay for windows, when they can use Linux, which has all this free, and never gets viruses. It's a no-brainer. Plus, if they'res something they must have for windows that they don't have for linux, theres Wine.[/QUOTE]
Linux is impractile because it is not user friendly, When someone needs to install a printer it is so much easier to just pop in the disk and run it than 7 steps for adding things. Most people use Windows, and schools get Windows linesences for about 10bux a OS so it really makes more sense to use it. And wine isn't compatible with everything.
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[QUOTE=_Underlined_;16821362]It's not that hard. Make some shortcuts on the desktop to Internet or whatever, wham.
See what I did there? :smug:[/QUOTE]
If you think that is all there is to school computers you are very wrong
My school spent 30k on macs for music.. Only For Music Lessons. My school has around 300 people. They got 30 macs. Its a lesson we have Once a week, and they spent most of the school funding on them, in the ICT department they have computers that take around 20 mins to boot on XP and instead of getting new computers there they got macs which don't work on the school system (about 1 in 10 work without a problem),Crash about every half hour and are not used every lesson. Why? Because the music teacher uses a mac at home and refuses to use anything else (although he has an Windows PC next to his mac because he cant work out how to rig the mac up to the projector)
[QUOTE=SuPeR_MaN;16823736]My school spent 30k on macs for music.. Only For Music Lessons. My school has around 300 people. They got 30 macs. Its a lesson we have Once a week, and they spent most of the school funding on them, in the ICT department they have computers that take around 20 mins to boot on XP and instead of getting new computers there they got macs which don't work on the school system (about 1 in 10 work without a problem),Crash about every half hour and are not used every lesson. Why? Because the music teacher uses a mac at home and refuses to use anything else (although he has an Windows PC next to his mac because he cant work out how to rig the mac up to the projector)[/QUOTE]
Small school. We have over 2,100 students alone here at mine. 600 or so being my Senior class.
[QUOTE=SuPeR_MaN;16823736]My school spent 30k on macs for music.. Only For Music Lessons. My school has around 300 people. They got 30 macs. Its a lesson we have Once a week, and they spent most of the school funding on them, in the ICT department they have computers that take around 20 mins to boot on XP and instead of getting new computers there they got macs which don't work on the school system (about 1 in 10 work without a problem),Crash about every half hour and are not used every lesson. Why? Because the music teacher uses a mac at home and refuses to use anything else (although he has an Windows PC next to his mac because he cant work out how to rig the mac up to the projector)[/QUOTE]
They should have fired that moron.
[QUOTE=Peavy262;16823047]Because if they used linux some asshole would fuck it up.
Linux is very easy to fuck up if you don't know how to use it[/QUOTE]
This is true only if you have root access. If you don't have root, you can't really do anything, you can only put stuff in your home folder.
[QUOTE=SuPeR_MaN;16823736]My school spent 30k on macs for music.. Only For Music Lessons. My school has around 300 people. They got 30 macs. Its a lesson we have Once a week, and they spent most of the school funding on them, in the ICT department they have computers that take around 20 mins to boot on XP and instead of getting new computers there they got macs which don't work on the school system (about 1 in 10 work without a problem),Crash about every half hour and are not used every lesson. Why? Because the music teacher uses a mac at home and refuses to use anything else (although he has an Windows PC next to his mac because he cant work out how to rig the mac up to the projector)[/QUOTE]
Our school boards Macs never acted up, they never had the beachball of doom, or other annoying lockups.
I could see it now
"why doesn't this flash video work?"
"Teacher it won't connect to the internet WHY?"
"My U3 thumb drive doesn't work?!?"
"The powerpoint doesn't work"
"How do I install gentoo?"
"what is a kernal panic?"
my school mainly uses macs
[QUOTE=igamiwarr;16821169]Because many people don't know how to use Linux.[/QUOTE]
They don't really know how to 'use' Windows either. They just click programs. That's easy on Windows, Mac and Linux.
[QUOTE=Panda X;16821236]Yeah lets take a few months to train the faculty how to use Linux, then take a few more to teach the students how to. By the last week of the school year they can now begin their work.[/QUOTE]
Nice trolling there. (Or hopefully a joke)*
[QUOTE=Dr Egg;16821254]Also .doc is a defacto standard.[/QUOTE]
OpenOffice can read and write to .doc just fine.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;16821361]Because they buy the PCs from companies who don't put Linux on their machines, the schools would have to wipe the Windows they've paid for off the machines and put on Linux, wasting money.[/QUOTE]
They do that with Windows too. No competent tech leaves the OS that came with the machine on it.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16823319]Most people at the school I went to couldn't even use Windows. :/[/QUOTE]
This.
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;16823566]Linux is impractile because it is not user friendly, When someone needs to install a printer it is so much easier to just pop in the disk and run it than 7 steps for adding things. Most people use Windows, and schools get Windows linesences for about 10bux a OS so it really makes more sense to use it. And wine isn't compatible with everything.[/QUOTE]
You don't even need to pop the disk in for Linux. It's a lot more user-friendly than Windows. But either way, you wouldn't need to do anything like that because you'd probably be using already configured network printers.
Plus linux has a stigma around it anyway. People are reluctant to try it even if they don't know a single thing about it. Its very easy to use and I'm sure just about everyone here agrees with that. But if you asked the people that most of these schools have as their computer class teachers and such they'd probably tell you how impossible it is to use because they generally don't know shit.
[QUOTE=gparent;16826454]You don't even need to pop the disk in for Linux. It's a lot more user-friendly than Windows. But either way, you wouldn't need to do anything like that because you'd probably be using already configured network printers.[/QUOTE]
Why doesn't it run the EXE files? wait what distro are you using that runs exe's?
[QUOTE=rieda1589;16823500]Microsoft pay schools to use their shit.[/QUOTE]
So pupils grow up and buy MS OS's?
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;16826904]Why doesn't it run the EXE files? wait what distro are you using that runs exe's?[/QUOTE]
If you're serious, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Schools use Windows because most people are familliar with Windows on their home machines (although some Linux distros mimic Windows in terms of interface).
My school uses XP for their machines and we just got MacBooks (and an OS X server in the IT office to sync with the Windows servers) for multimedia classes thru a grant last year (loaded with Office 08 and all sorts of free and Open Source software, although we have to use a generic local student account on the Macs because using our network accounts takes forever, the Macs have to download/sync our entire network folder through saturated WiFi-n networks before it logs us in.)
[QUOTE=gparent;16827296]If you're serious, I have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]
Last time I used linux it wouldn't run .EXE files so how do you propose that the average IT guy install the drivers to an HP6v000, without using wine or the like?
I imagine compatibility is the main concern, the second being student familiarity.
Many schools, including my own, don't just use their hardware for basic web-browsing and Office; they use it with specialized technical programs like CAD software and the like. I'm not familiar with how efficient Linux emulators are, but I imagine they would perform faster on a standard Windows PC.
My school uses iMacs, so yeah.
Because X11 is fucking horrible.
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