Wow. The only thing this overpriced shitbox is good for. Hacking it to make something better.
Fucking incredible. It's a better use than what kinect was intended to do.
me and my sister can finally film the 3d porno we've been wanting to make
that guy has the coolest fucking voice
I'd buy one of these the second that I can scan in 3D models. Just imagine for game mappers. Say they need a prop of a chest of drawers, just rotate the object and get the software to scan it all in. Need cars? Grab a laptop and walk around a parking lot.
[QUOTE=benjgvps;26088593]I'd buy one of these the second that I can scan in 3D models. Just imagine for game mappers. Say they need a prop of a chest of drawers, just rotate the object and get the software to scan it all in. Need cars? Grab a laptop and walk around a parking lot.[/QUOTE]
And then spend same amount of time cleaning it up.
Really, just learn to model, it would be much faster than cleaning ugly triangle hell and projected textures.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;26088669]And then spend same amount of time cleaning it up.
Really, just learn to model, it would be much faster than cleaning ugly triangle hell and projected textures.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty much the only sort of thing you've posted this whole thread..
This is really cool.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;26088669]And then spend same amount of time cleaning it up.
Really, just learn to model, it would be much faster than cleaning ugly triangle hell and projected textures.[/QUOTE]
yeah but once the tech (or maybe even just the drivers) improves, shit will be good.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;26088777]yeah but once the tech (or maybe even just the drivers) improves, shit will be good.[/QUOTE]
Tech maybe, but drivers won't help.
The IR that kinect uses isn't good enough quality to produce good quality 3d meshes.
[QUOTE=SGNinja101;26088773]That's pretty much the only sort of thing you've posted this whole thread..[/QUOTE]
Because that's the truth. People go all "woo ill be able to scan models for my maps nao" but in reality that is not possible with kinect.
And real world to 3d scanners exist already, just not for poor people yet.
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;26082729]me and my sister can finally film the 3d porno we've been wanting to make[/QUOTE]
:geno:
Imagine having three or so of these and putting them up in your room, you can now talk to the air because there is an invisible camera there.
Hot damn this is cool.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;26094836]Imagine having three or so of these and putting them up in your room, you can now talk to the air because there is an invisible camera there.
Hot damn this is cool.[/QUOTE]
The cameras would interfere with each other because they project an infrared pattern to measure depth.
[QUOTE=Robber;26096597]The cameras would interfere with each other because they project an infrared pattern to measure depth.[/QUOTE]
cant you block one from and just use the cam part of it ?
This what you could have atleast 2 together
[QUOTE=benjgvps;26088593]I'd buy one of these the second that I can scan in 3D models. Just imagine for game mappers. Say they need a prop of a chest of drawers, just rotate the object and get the software to scan it all in. Need cars? Grab a laptop and walk around a parking lot.[/QUOTE]
Add a electronic gyroscope, electronic compass and electronic accelerometer and you're in business.
Well atleast on the hardware side.
[QUOTE=ineedateam1;26096742]cant you block one from and just use the cam part of it ?
This what you could have atleast 2 together[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't be 3D. He made a video explaining why it's not working and how it could work:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttMHme2EI9I[/media]
[QUOTE=Robber;26096597]The cameras would interfere with each other because they project an infrared pattern to measure depth.[/QUOTE]
you could have the cameras all "blink" one at a time really fast so only one camera emits infared light
it'd be better/cheaper to just get two webcams and position/pivet them properly
[editline]16th November 2010[/editline]
but neat i guess, because this isn't really something the kinect is supposed to do
still the outcome would be better with just two decent webcams
[QUOTE=meppers;26097583]you could have the cameras all "blink" one at a time really fast so only one camera emits infared light[/QUOTE]
That's how I thought it would work with multiple Kinects. Assuming they can be calibrated blink chronologically so that non-interfere with each other, it should work albeit it may run slower.
[QUOTE=M_B;26098696]it'd be better/cheaper to just get two webcams and position/pivet them properly
[editline]16th November 2010[/editline]
but neat i guess, because this isn't really something the kinect is supposed to do
still the outcome would be better with just two decent webcams[/QUOTE]
You're forgetting that you won't get a good 3d from 2 webcams.
Not like you can from kinect...
[QUOTE=johan_sm;26105704]You're forgetting that you won't get a good 3d from 2 webcams.
Not like you can from kinect...[/QUOTE]uh
why not? i'm sorry but all you need to capture 3D are two cameras. you only have two eyes, are you suggesting that we should all try to get a third eye so that we can somehow see 3D better?
[editline]16th November 2010[/editline]
what do movies use? dual-lens cameras.
what do games do? render two images.
[QUOTE=M_B;26105917]uh
why not? i'm sorry but all you need to capture 3D are two cameras. you only have two eyes, are you suggesting that we should all try to get a third eye so that we can somehow see 3D better?
[editline]16th November 2010[/editline]
what do movies use? dual-lens cameras.
what do games do? render two images.[/QUOTE]
You can't get details like a nose or the wrinkles in cloths.
It was inevitable that this would happen.
[QUOTE=Robber;26114652]You can't get details like a nose or the wrinkles in cloths.[/QUOTE]
That's what the non-infrared cameras are for, textures.
[QUOTE=Robber;26114652]You can't get details like a nose or the wrinkles in cloths.[/QUOTE]
This is a joke, right?
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=paul simon;26114980]That's what the non-infrared cameras are for, textures.[/QUOTE]
The infrared cameras aren't even in use, here. Really, from even a 30 dollar webcam you get a higher resolution and capture speed/rate, use two of them and you've got a decent 3D recording setup better than the kinect(of course this isn't it's intended use). This is guy just did this because he can, like using a PSP as a universal remote.
[QUOTE=M_B;26105917]uh
why not? i'm sorry but all you need to capture 3D are two cameras. you only have two eyes, are you suggesting that we should all try to get a third eye so that we can somehow see 3D better?
[editline]16th November 2010[/editline]
what do movies use? dual-lens cameras.
what do games do? render two images.[/QUOTE]
You don't understand how 3d works, now do you?
With 2 images at a different angle you get stereoscopic 3d. You can't create a 3d environment from that. For that you would either need many images from many angles and then use algorithms to calculate a 3d mesh or use something like kinect's IR scanner to scan a 3d model.
Stereo 3d is just 2 flat images, it doesn't create a real 3d mesh.
you cannot use one single IR camera to make a 3D model :downs:
the only reason this is working the way it is is because his example is a [B]box[/B]
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
i don't think you understand how 3d works, because this isn't even using the IR scanner at all.
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
do you even know what infrared is?
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
because infrared wouldn't help with this at all
[QUOTE=M_B;26121211]you cannot use one single IR camera to make a 3D model :downs:
the only reason this is working the way it is is because his example is a [B]box[/B]
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
i don't think you understand how 3d works, because this isn't even using the IR scanner at all.
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
do you even know what infrared is?
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
because infrared wouldn't help with this at all[/QUOTE]
lolk
seriously
the infrared camera is there to pick up on moving [B]living things[/B]. a cardboard box isn't going to put off any heat
[QUOTE=M_B;26121211]you cannot use one single IR camera to make a 3D model :downs:
the only reason this is working the way it is is because his example is a [B]box[/B]
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
i don't think you understand how 3d works, because this isn't even using the IR scanner at all.
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
do you even know what infrared is?
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
because infrared wouldn't help with this at all[/QUOTE]
Kinect uses two cameras and an IR Projection of a dot mesh. One camera picks up on the IR and feeds it into the other Color camera in order to figure out depth and occlusion. Two webcams give you Stereoscopic 3D, but not depth information. So you'd be running your webcams though probably a good bit of software to figure out a depth map.
If you know that and you're making some other point, then nevermind.
honest to god didn't realize it used IR that way, but i didn't actually watch the video all the way through to see he was using it for measurements rather than just recording in 3D
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