[QUOTE=Protocol7;38238508]The only one that's less feature-filled is the RT version as well, and the Metro OneNote is dumbed down to make it easier for, y'know, notes.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I only tried out onenote and noticed it was metro so i assumed the same was true for the other office programs.
One thing people should note is most of the features people are complaining about you don't even have to use = like the split ,ultitasking for metro apps, metro apps in general etc. And these design choices [i]that you don't have to use on a desktop[/i] make utterly perfect sense on a tablet, to the point where it's an absolutely amazing, innovative tablet OS.
christ I sounded like a microsoft rep, jesus
[QUOTE=Mitchell4500;38241778]Yeah I only tried out onenote and noticed it was metro so i assumed the same was true for the other office programs.[/QUOTE]
OneNote MX is a separate non-office application. Office 2013 has the same functionality (this isn't true for the Surface version) as all of the other Offices.
[editline]29th October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;38242130]One thing people should note is most of the features people are complaining about you don't even have to use = like the split ,ultitasking for metro apps, metro apps in general etc. And these design choices [i]that you don't have to use on a desktop[/i] make utterly perfect sense on a tablet, to the point where it's an absolutely amazing, innovative tablet OS.[/QUOTE]
What I love is the straight up freedom you have. Want to kick back and just browse the web or shit? Metro is fine for this. Want to get serious? Go into desktop. You are honestly forced to do neither.
When I get my caviar blue back, I'll buy windows 8 for $15 and see how I like it with the Start8 mod. I'm just really on the fence here.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;38243351]When I get my caviar blue back, I'll buy windows 8 for $15 and see how I like it with the Start8 mod. I'm just really on the fence here.[/QUOTE]
Why don't you give the start screen a chance and see if you get used to it? I was skeptical at first but I'm finding it so much more convenient than the start menu.
Tried it for a few months on my gaming PC (or however long since it was released onto Technet). Although Task Manager had far more information on it than W7 and the boot times were considerably faster, I still really didn't like the style they had going on with solid colours (Login screen), 90 degree corners and lack of start menu (despite the fact I did try numerous alternatives, which didn't look nice). I also tried using the original start screen a chance, but I just couldn't organise it the way I liked it.
It's all just aesthetically unpleasing. Oh and Wake on LAN didn't work, which was a big thorn in my productive side considering I use virtual machines on it remotely from my Macbook Pro due to the superior processing power.
I did try and give it a fair go, but I eventually just Hackintoshed my PC. Took a bit of work, but the result was well worth it (and it boots faster than W8, which surprised me to say the least)
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;38234350]Yes[/QUOTE]
So just to make this clear, I can use an unactivated copy of Windows 7 and upgrade it to Windows 8 and have it fully activated? Or do I need a valid Windows 7 key for it to activate?
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;38243888]Why don't you give the start screen a chance and see if you get used to it? I was skeptical at first but I'm finding it so much more convenient than the start menu.[/QUOTE]
I did in the beta, I don't like it.
i am enjoying it so far.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;38244561]I did in the beta, I don't like it.[/QUOTE]
i don't care what you say, I can tell you haven't sat down and gave it a serious try without a predisposed inclination towards it
just install it and use it, you'll grow to like it very quickly - the time you spend in it is actually very minimal
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38245066]i don't care what you say, I can tell you haven't sat down and gave it a serious try without a predisposed inclination towards it
just install it and use it, you'll grow to like it very quickly - the time you spend in it is actually very minimal[/QUOTE]
Its a small nuisance to me, and I already said I'm getting windows 8 and I'll probably try it out again. It just really doesn't appeal to me.
[editline]30th October 2012[/editline]
The only real thing that gets to me about metro is I'm always opening my files and shit and metro just got in the way for the week I had the preview.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;38245107]Its a small nuisance to me, and I already said I'm getting windows 8 and I'll probably try it out again. It just really doesn't appeal to me.[/QUOTE]
yes because you haven't given it a serious try
just stop with the "it doesn't appeal to me"
if you go into something fully expecting to hate it, guess what? you're going to hate it
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38245144]yes because you haven't given it a serious try
just stop with the "it doesn't appeal to me"
if you go into something fully expecting to hate it, guess what? you're going to hate it[/QUOTE]
I didn't go into it expecting to hate it, when I downloaded the preview I was all hyped for it thinking it was going to be the best shit ever. I was disappointed.
[QUOTE=Zerokateo;38245156]I didn't go into it expecting to hate it, when I downloaded the preview I was all hyped for it thinking it was going to be the best shit ever. I was disappointed.[/QUOTE]
what didn't you like about it specifically? I barely ever have it open except to open apps, and with the nice groupings I know where to click so it's hardly open for more than a second at a time
plus being able to snap apps like skype to the side is useful
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38245174]what didn't you like about it specifically? I barely ever have it open except to open apps, and with the nice groupings I know where to click so it's hardly open for more than a second at a time
plus being able to snap apps like skype to the side is useful[/QUOTE]
I don't like the search, the way the you can't have folders on metro, I can't stand the side scrolling, and the settings and control panel are separate. I love windows 8 on tablets, I tried out a surface 2 days ago but on the desktop I really can't do it without my start bar.
2 things:
I've noticed that when the cursor has to change symbol (eg to the 'I' when hovering over text) it lags out a bit - if i move it fast there's a noticeable and annoying lag when it gets to the text
Is there any way I can have snapped apps open at the same time as the metro screen?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38242478]What I love is the straight up freedom you have. Want to kick back and just browse the web or shit? Metro is fine for this. Want to get serious? Go into desktop. You are honestly forced to do neither.[/QUOTE]
Metro is awesome for content consumption. No UI controls by default, smooth animations everywhere, notifications for anything I'd want, everything resumes instantly, don't have to worry about closing apps, and I can stream whatever I'm listening to or watching to the Xbox.
The only thing I use the desktop for is image/document editing, more advanced file management, and gaming. Hell, I've even starting playing a lot of Metro games because it's so incredible being able to close the game with the press of a button, browse the web or something for half an hour, and resume the game in less than a second. Plus I can have 20 metro apps open at the same time and my laptop doesn't even break a sweat.
I adore it.
I'm trying to go as Metro as I can.
The only desktop program I have installed is Steam and I haven't actually used it yet.
So far, I've been perfectly capable of living in Metro.
Its good but i just installed [URL="http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/"]Start8[/URL] cause i fucking hate metro, ill stick to my desktop thank you
Installed it yesterday and if anyone is still wondering if it's worth $15 for win7 users or $40 for winxp users then yes it is worth it. And I'm saying this after my DVD failed on me when win8 was at 92% and I had to install another OS just to burn the thing again.
Also the metro and the desktop interface aren't awkward at all as long as your windows button key is working. It's different but very nice in my opinion.
[QUOTE=OnDemand;38248073]Installed it yesterday and if anyone is still wondering if it's worth $15 for win7 users or $40 for winxp users then yes it is worth it. And I'm saying this after my DVD failed on me when win8 was at 92% and I had to install another OS just to burn the thing again.
Also the metro and the desktop interface aren't awkward at all as long as your windows button key is working. It's different but very nice in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
If you memorize the shortcuts via keyboard I'd argue it's much faster and does much more for you than the regular start menu you're used to.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38248275]If you memorize the shortcuts via keyboard I'd argue it's much faster and does much more for you than the regular start menu you're used to.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Nothing like a tiling manager on Linux to show you the efficiently and speed of using keyboard short-cuts.
Nothing like using Linux in general to make you appreciate shortcuts.
I spent a lot of my first few programming classes doing C++ in vi in a terminal, I got pretty damn good at it.
Kind of interested in the new mice by logitech where you can open the start menu with a button. Seems like it would make opening things with metro really fucking quick.
Using win8 for over a month now. Like so many others I "hated" metro. Didn't feel like buying start8 so I had to "live with" metro. Week ago or something I got start 8 and all I'm using it for is to get rid of the charm bar in desktop mode and boot directly into desktop. There is no way I'm going back to the original start menu. I can't fit anything there.. The new start screen is like a second desktop with all your icons grouped up so your default desktop doesn't get to full.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38250459]I spent a lot of my first few programming classes doing C++ in vi in a terminal, I got pretty damn good at it.[/QUOTE]
I am surprised you didn't kill yourself after going through that.
Once I got Start8 and everything setup properly, it's actually really nice. Running native metroapps and standard explorer makes me feel as if i'm running two OS at the same time. I actually really enjoy Windows 8 as of now
Are there any benchmarks for booting up windows 8 vs. windows 7?
[editline]31st October 2012[/editline]
On an HDD
As a chronic reformatter (every 6-8 months), what's the deal with upgrading and still only having your Windows 7 disc?
[QUOTE=Banned?;38259868]As a chronic reformatter (every 6-8 months), what's the deal with upgrading and still only having your Windows 7 disc?[/QUOTE]
You can actually "reset" windows 8 with the click of a button, no install discs or USBs needed.
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