[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;15843658]You're missing the point, and your horribly misconstrued argument doesn't really address anything I've said. I'm [B]not[/B] turning this into a mudslinging contest. That's exactly what I'm attempting to prevent. It was [I]you[/I] and [I]him[/I] who began with the personal attacks first.
[B]IN MY OPINION[/B] if you have the money for a GTX 295, it is worth it. The performance is great. Go for it.
[B]IN YOUR OPINION[/B] the GTX 295's price does not justify its performance gain.
The "better deal" is different in each of our opinions, and it is not me but [I]you[/I] who is attempting to present your opinion as fact.[/QUOTE]
hey let us break it down to $X.xx for frame then
[editline]05:20PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;15843658]You're missing the point, and your horribly misconstrued argument doesn't really address anything I've said. I'm [B]not[/B] turning this into a mudslinging contest. [/QUOTE]
[quote=xxFoxxx]I have shit on you I could dig up if I wanted, but this isn't a thread about me or you[/quote]
you are a horrible troll
Shall we settle this like men?
[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-285,2139.html[/url]
[img]http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/A/177526/original/gtx-285_charts-02.png[/img]
[img]http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/C/177528/original/gtx-285_charts-04.png[/img]
[img]http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/E/177530/original/gtx-285_charts-06.png[/img]
[img]http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/G/177532/original/gtx-285_charts-08.png[/img]
[img]http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/I/177534/original/gtx-285_charts-10.png[/img]
Let's say the 4870 X2 costs $380, as the $350 one on Newegg is just for this weekend.
Let's call the GTX 295 $510, since the cheapest ones on Newegg are that much without shipping.
The GTX 295 thus costs 34% more than the 4870 X2.
In WaW at 1920x1200, the 4870 X2 averages 105.8 FPS while the 295 averages 110.5.
4% performance increase.
In Crysis at 1920x1200, the 4870 X2 pulls 31.5 FPS to the 295's 29.6.
6% performance decrease.
For Far Cry 2, the 4870 X2 is getting 77.3 FPS and the 295 is getting 86.9.
12% performance increase.
In Left 4 Dead, the 4870 X2 is running at an average of 123.5 FPS to the 295's 147.5.
19% performance increase.
In World In Conflict, the 295 has a 7 FPS lead on the 4870 X2's 61 with an average FPS of 68.
11% performance increase.
This is all for a 34% price increase. If we wanted to compare the price of the GTX 295 w/ shipping to the price of that 4870 X2 special, we have a 49% price increase for the 295.
[B]You do the math.[/B]
[editline]05:21PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;15843693]hey let us break it down to $X.xx for frame then
[editline]05:20PM[/editline]
you are a horrible troll[/QUOTE]
Heh, I started working on my post before I saw that.
Great minds think alike! [img]http://d2k5.com/sa_emots/wink.gif[/img]
The way that you're gathering data is awful. Dollar =/= FPS. You can't compare percentages of two different things. To prove this, do the same comparison on lower end cards like a 4870 and such and you'll start getting some fucked up numbers.
Obviously, money doesn't matter to you.
I predict you being up to your eyeballs in debt by 30.
However, I like to think carefully about my money.
If I was looking at those two graphics cards, I'd also be looking at my wallet.
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;15843693]you are a horrible troll[/QUOTE]
My fucking point is that he's digging up shit on me. I [I]could[/I] do the same if I wanted to, but [B]I'm not going to because this thread isn't about that.[/B] Are my words somewhat deceiving? Do I really have to go behind myself and explain every post?
[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;15843816]The way that you're gathering data is awful. Dollar =/= FPS. You can't compare percentages of two different things. To prove this, do the same comparison on lower end cards like a 4870 and such and you'll start getting some fucked up numbers.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/e/ed/KingLaugh.jpg]Wow sure is dumb around here[/url]
How am I digging up shit on you?
I'm just trying to say that you are pretty blind to the fact that the GTX 295 is a [B]HORRIBLE FUCKING DEAL[/B].
mere words can not describe how bad a troll you are
[editline]05:30PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;15843851]My fucking point is that he's digging up shit on me. I [I]could[/I] do the same if I wanted to, but [B]I'm not going to because this thread isn't about that.[/B] Are my words somewhat deceiving? Do I really have to go behind myself and explain every post?[/QUOTE]
we are reviewing your posts in this thread, that means, we were reading the thead is that not allowed or something
[QUOTE=Prismatex;15843850]Obviously, money doesn't matter to you.
I predict you being up to your eyeballs in debt by 30.
However, I like to think carefully about my money.
If I was looking at those two graphics cards, I'd also be looking at my wallet.[/QUOTE]
Money does matter very much to me. I guess that's why I only buy computer parts that I actually have the cash for. :downs:
I was looking at my wallet. Do you know how much this GTX 295 cost me? $145.
[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;15843911]Money does matter very much to me. I guess that's why I only buy computer parts that I actually have the cash for. :downs:
I was looking at my wallet. Do you know how much this GTX 295 cost me? $165.[/QUOTE]
where did you get that, openbox
[QUOTE=Prismatex;15843869]How am I digging up shit on you?[/quote]
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;15843874]we are reviewing your posts in this thread, that means, we were reading the thead is that not allowed or something[/QUOTE]
This is as unnecessary and as mudslinging as posts get:
[QUOTE=Prismatex;15834137]Now I see why xxFoxxx is hating on the 4870 X2.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=13789269&postcount=2086[/url]
He got banned a few months ago for calling somebody's 4870 X2 a piece of shit in comparison to his GTX 295.[/QUOTE]
Taking a post from outside of this thread, taking it out of context and trying to use that to discredit me? Fuck you.
[QUOTE=Prismatex;15843869]I'm just trying to say that you are pretty blind to the fact that the GTX 295 is a [B]HORRIBLE FUCKING DEAL[/B].[/QUOTE]
There you go again, trying to present your opinion as fact.
[editline]04:34PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;15843934]where did you get that, openbox[/QUOTE]
Step-up program.
1. Okay as you can see that wasn't me, so you were saying you would "digg up dirt on me" for no reason
2. see one
3. so you will pay almost 130bucks for 10% boost? that is fucking dumb
[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;15843911]Money does matter very much to me. I guess that's why I only buy computer parts that I actually have the cash for. :downs:
I was looking at my wallet. Do you know how much this GTX 295 cost me? $145.[/QUOTE]
You're still bad with money, IMO.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=15761810&postcount=2701[/url]
[quote]Finally found somewhere that's gonna hire me. Now I may apply for a loan! |3
I've narrowed it down to a couple cars.
A 2007 MazdaSpeed 6:
[img]http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/12398/71109798.jpg[/img]
Or a 1999 BMW M3
[img]http://automekenna.com/images/imgp2119.jpg[/img]
I unno. The Mazda would be a lot more fun, but I could pay off the BMW a lot sooner. Thoughts? [/quote]
This appears to be the Mazda you're looking at:
[url]http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&pageNumber=3&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-|E-|M-_30_|D-_7751_|N-N|R-10000|I-1%2c7|P-PRICE+descending|Q-descending|Z-13326&aff=national&paId=310255524&recnum=186&leadExists=true[/url]
Looking on the dealer's site, the BMW is $10,000 OBO.
Looking at the KBB site, the suggested retail value for the Mazda is at least $20,000.
Insurance on either of those cars for a high-schooler who's already totaled one car must cost out the ass. Either of those cars would be a horrid choice financially for someone with a minimum wage (or low-wage) job who also has to think about college.
Obviously, you're not as awesome with money as you wish you were.
What do I drive?
Pretty much this, just not my picture:
[img]http://www.primetimeauctions.com/auctions/2006/05/13/Ford%20Explorer.jpg[/img]
I pay less than $500 a year for insurance, and it's a hand-me-down from my parents, so I'm not worried about payments. Sure, it doesn't go fast, and it doesn't look as pimp as either of those cars, but it gets me where I need to go.
just because you got a card for 165 does not mean the OP is getting it for that price
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;15843861][url=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/e/ed/KingLaugh.jpg]Wow sure is dumb around here[/url][/QUOTE]
You obviously don't understand what I'm saying. Let's take the 4870 and the GTX 285 for example. The 285 is over double the price of the 4870, yet most of the time it doesn't come close to throwing up double the framerate. That is an irrelevant comparison. Or even a 4870 and a 4870X2/4870's in crossfire. Double up on 4870's, double up on price, don't come close to doubling up on framerate. That is a very inaccurate comparison to make. By that logic, you shouldn't be getting a GTX 295 [I]or[/I] a 4870X2, or anything but the shittiest of cards because the price percentage increase isn't worth the framerate percentage increase.
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;15844034]1. Okay as you can see that wasn't me, so you were saying you would "digg up dirt on me" for no reason
2. see one [/QUOTE]
No, I was talking straight to Prismate in that respect. You too are straddling that line between insulting me personally and trying to offer help.
GTX 260 is the counterpart to the 4870
Nvidia's highest vs ati highest is a fair deal
[QUOTE=Prismatex;15844133]You're still bad with money, IMO.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=15761810&postcount=2701[/url]
This appears to be the Mazda you're looking at:
[url]http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&pageNumber=3&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-|E-|M-_30_|D-_7751_|N-N|R-10000|I-1%2c7|P-PRICE+descending|Q-descending|Z-13326&aff=national&paId=310255524&recnum=186&leadExists=true[/url]
Looking on the dealer's site, the BMW is $10,000 OBO.
Looking at the KBB site, the suggested retail value for the Mazda is at least $20,000.
Insurance on either of those cars for a high-schooler who's already totaled one car must cost out the ass. Either of those cars would be a horrid choice financially for someone with a minimum wage (or low-wage) job who also has to think about college.
Obviously, you're not as awesome with money as you wish you were.
What do I drive?
Pretty much this, just not my picture:
[img]http://www.primetimeauctions.com/auctions/2006/05/13/Ford%20Explorer.jpg[/img]
I pay less than $500 a year for insurance, and it's a hand-me-down from my parents, so I'm not worried about payments. Sure, it doesn't go fast, and it doesn't look as pimp as either of those cars, but it gets me where I need to go.[/QUOTE]
So? Get over yourself. I have a job that will provide more than ample payments. If you must know, the M3 is $7,000 and the MS6 is $13,000. I don't just go out and buy one for $20K because that's what it says on KBB. :downs: I actually look for deals because I am good at managing money. I can get a 60 month loan on the MS6, make a down payment of $1K plus trade in and old hand-me-down Explorer for 3K, bringing my payments down to like $140 a month even on the more expensive car. That is way more than manageable on my paycheck.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=15843851&postcount=95[/url]
so I am in that for?
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;15844276][url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=15843851&postcount=95[/url]
so I am in that for?[/QUOTE]
Because YOU CALLED ME A TROLL.
I said [B]he[/B] is digging up shit on [B]me[/B] and I could do the same.
GJ you just contradicted yourself AGAIN
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;15844414]GJ you just contradicted yourself AGAIN[/QUOTE]
You called my post where I said that trolling. I was explaining why I said that. You are so thick it's incredible. You two need to fucking stop.
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I am done with this thread
xfox is A) troll B) moronic
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C) Furry
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D) a mongoloid
E) all of above
F) multiple question marks
G) profit
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so does anyone remember what this thread is about?
I kid, I kid
anyway I'd go with the 4870x2
Yeah, it is good quality and powerful. Value for money.
i personally would rather get a gtx 295 if i had the cash, since it gives higher lowest framerates than the 4870x2 meaning it wouldn't dip down as much
yeah, i think i get the HD4870X2, and nevermind that post about brands, cause ive found it like $110 cheaper in another shop, and there they only have sapphire
you missed the total and utter shitstorm. if i had to choose it would be HIS or Sapphire
How powerfull PSU do you need for HD4870X2?
[editline]08:39PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;15828357]Dual GPUs, like the 4870 x2?
Q6600 doesn't go to 3.6 easily without some intense cooling. What kind of fucked up temps do you idle at?[/QUOTE]
Lol, I have never overclocked and I'm kinda scared of it for some reason
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