Just installed Ubuntu, am hating it, my gripes and how do I fix them

[Gaeel]

[QUOTE=danharibo;30188212]That's why you chain the packages like this:

sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 php5-pear mongodb 

[/QUOTE]

or use the command history (press up)

[derpmeifter]

or just "sudo -s"
does the exact same thing as "su root"

[danharibo]

[QUOTE=Gaeel;30197045]or use the command history (press up)[/QUOTE]

No, do it like that because you only need to issue one command and not 4.

[DarkendSky]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30055091]So after finally figuring out how to get my goddamn wireless card working, I am having these issues:

-I can't seem to change the directory shown in the file viewer (like how in Windows you can go change 'C:\[user]\documents' to 'C:\program files (x86)' and press enter and there you are).

-When my screensaver popups, I need to retype my password after I end it

-I need to retype my password for everything (I thought UAC, good thing I disable UAC)

-I can't figure out how to remove my password (like not have a password at all, no one else uses my computers, which are in my house).

I am just testing Ubuntu for the shits and giggles btw.[/QUOTE]

Most of these questions have been answered already, but you can't actually have a passwordless account, and (at least in Debian; its been a while since I used Ubuntu) it is possible to save the root password in a keyring to be used for just a session or whenever you're logged in. I bet I'm wrong about the passwordless part, though. I just changed my password to a blank with the console, which made it impossible to log in until I changed it back with a rescue shell.

[st0rmforce]

I just upgraded my Ubuntu laptop and I'm wishing I didn't. It was perfectly fine as it was, but I foolishly thought that moving to the latest would be a good idea.

First impressions: " Where's my menu? What the fuck is this?" Apparently I'll "get used to Unity". No I won't, this piece of shit is going in the bin. At least I can just put gnome back on and forget about it.
Second thing I noticed: "Is it hot in here? Oh, it's just the CPU melting". My fan is going constantly and the machine is struggling to do even basic things. It's a good thing that the battery is near enough dead, so I don't try using it unplugged any more, the way it is now it would just eat the charge anyway.

I remember the days when moving to a new version of Ubuntu made things better. Maybe it didn't like being upgraded, rather than being a clean install, but that isn't an excuse in my opinion.
I'm going to have to wipe and start again and hope that it was just and upgrade problem, but I have my doubts.
I might stick the old disk in and see if I can put 10.10 back on. It will be left behind and become unsupported, but at least I can use the machine.

Fuck you Micros... I mean Canonical.

[The Baconator]

How do I get gurbs to look all graphics and what not? Like it had logos and shit.

[Niteshifter]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30290862]How do I get gurbs to look all graphics and what not? Like it had logos and shit.[/QUOTE]

With grub splashimages. [url=http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30341]Here's a tutorial that's Ubuntu based.[/url]

[The Baconator]

[QUOTE=Niteshifter;30292781]With grub splashimages. [url=http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30341]Here's a tutorial that's Ubuntu based.[/url][/QUOTE]

I recalled it let you click on an icon (say Windows icon) and it booted Windows as opposed to Ubuntu. This just seems like a wallpaper. It was official too.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

This was it:

[url]http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/get-animated-themed-icon-only-grub-menu-using-burg-now-simple-to-use/[/url]

But I'm not typing all that shit. I don't understand why they can't just have a downloadable program similar to .exe files on windows or .app on osx.

[Niteshifter]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30294194]I recalled it let you click on an icon (say Windows icon) and it booted Windows as opposed to Ubuntu. This just seems like a wallpaper. It was official too.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

This was it:

[url]http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/get-animated-themed-icon-only-grub-menu-using-burg-now-simple-to-use/[/url]

But I'm not typing all that shit. I don't understand why they can't just have a downloadable program similar to .exe files on windows or .app on osx.[/QUOTE]

It's only about 4 commands which isn't much. If you want to maximise your system's potential, you'll have to get used to it. Personally, over the past week, I've typed over 1000 commands to get stuff working better.

[_Twitch_]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30294194]I recalled it let you click on an icon (say Windows icon) and it booted Windows as opposed to Ubuntu. This just seems like a wallpaper. It was official too.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

This was it:

[url]http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/get-animated-themed-icon-only-grub-menu-using-burg-now-simple-to-use/[/url]

But I'm not typing all that shit. I don't understand why they can't just have a downloadable program similar to .exe files on windows or .app on osx.[/QUOTE]

This is not Windows. Windows is designed to be user-friendly. Linux is for those who know what they are doing and don't need executable scripts to do it for them. Learn the workings of your system if you are going to stick to Linux.

[PvtCupcakes]

Windows is anything but user-friendly. It's user-hostile to users like me especially.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

Posting from Windows, and I'm probably going to die and the melted remains of my body will need to be scraped up eventually.

[The Baconator]

[QUOTE=_Twitch_;30298634]This is not Windows. Windows is designed to be user-friendly. Linux is for those who know what they are doing and don't need executable scripts to do it for them. Learn the workings of your system if you are going to stick to Linux.[/QUOTE]

Which is why OSX is being favored over Windows for being more user friendly :doh: . Command line is soooo inefficient and tedious. What can take 2-3 clicks is lines of code in terminal. There's a difference between non-user friendly and archaic.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

And trying to use it gives me errors in terminal anyways.

[Lyokanthrope]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30299087]Which is why OSX is being favored over Windows for being more user friendly :doh: . Command line is soooo inefficient and tedious. What can take 2-3 clicks is lines of code in terminal. There's a difference between non-user friendly and archaic.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

And trying to use it gives me errors in terminal anyways.[/QUOTE]
You're doing it wrong.
Plain and simple.
Command line can actually be quite a bit more efficient than a GUI if you know what you're doing...

[_Twitch_]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30299087]Which is why OSX is being favored over Windows for being more user friendly :doh: . Command line is soooo inefficient and tedious. What can take 2-3 clicks is lines of code in terminal. There's a difference between non-user friendly and archaic.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

And trying to use it gives me errors in terminal anyways.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30298740]Windows is anything but user-friendly. It's user-hostile to users like me especially.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

Posting from Windows, and I'm probably going to die and the melted remains of my body will need to be scraped up eventually.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I meant "requires little knowledge of underlying processes" rather than "user friendly"

[The Baconator]

[QUOTE=Lyoko774;30299190]You're doing it wrong.
Plain and simple.
Command line can actually be quite a bit more efficient than a GUI if you know what you're doing...[/QUOTE]

Too much lines of code for such simple and trivial tasks. I'd agree with you if I were trying to do something Windows would prompt me about like 5 times and require like 8 menus and rebooting. But I just want to install some random app from a website. Downloading an .exe on Windows (instantaneously on my connection) and double clicking it is just too fast to even quantify.

[Lyokanthrope]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30299485]Too much lines of code for such simple and trivial tasks. I'd agree with you if I were trying to do something Windows would prompt me about like 5 times and require like 8 menus and rebooting. But I just want to install some random app from a website. Downloading an .exe on Windows (instantaneously on my connection) and double clicking it is just too fast to even quantify.[/QUOTE]
sudo apt-get install apphere
password
y

Done.
Is that so hard?

Or if you prefer a GUI.. System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager

Also, generally if you're downloading an app from a website they'll provide *.deb packages, which you can in fact double click and have them install.

[The Baconator]

[url]http://code.google.com/p/burg/[/url]

There is no deb files, since you know, this is actually a useful app.

[Lyokanthrope]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30299795][url]http://code.google.com/p/burg/[/url]

There is no deb files, since you know, this is actually a useful app.[/QUOTE]
Christ, then follow this:
[url]http://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/InstallUbuntu[/url]

Replace lucid with maverick in the deb lines (there's no 11.04 packages for this yet)

[ASmellyOgre]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30299485]Too much lines of code for such simple and trivial tasks. I'd agree with you if I were trying to do something Windows would prompt me about like 5 times and require like 8 menus and rebooting. But I just want to install some random app from a website. Downloading an .exe on Windows (instantaneously on my connection) and double clicking it is just too fast to even quantify.[/QUOTE]

In my experience, using the terminal to install programs is much faster and easier. Usually it's in the repositories, which means all I need to type is "[repo manager program] install [name of package]" and it automatically downloads and installs the program with every dependency resolved. If not that, then it's usually git, which is just as easy to do, or a .deb/.rpm file which is exactly the same experience as in Windows. The command line is far more efficient than a GUI for most management tasks.

The only downside to using Linux is that you're expected to actually get familiar with the inner workings of your computer. Some people just want to use it, not necessarily understand it, which is fine. It's not like you need to understand how all of your tools work, just how to use them. But I do suggest you give it a real try.

[highlight]SCRATCH THAT[/highlight]
Good lord, after seeing the above posts, I have to say this. I don't care what you use. You need to READ. If something goes wrong then look up the problem. Follow instructions that you find. Don't go crying to other people without even trying. It's only going to hurt you in the long run.

[The Baconator]

[QUOTE=Lyoko774;30299828]Christ, then follow this:
[url]http://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/InstallUbuntu[/url]

Replace lucid with maverick in the deb lines (there's no 11.04 packages for this yet)[/QUOTE]

My issue is I can't edit sources.list v:v:v

[Lyokanthrope]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30299862]My issue is I can't edit sources.list v:v:v[/QUOTE]
gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

[Elecbullet]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30299087]Which is why OSX is being favored over Windows for being more user friendly :doh: . Command line is soooo inefficient and tedious. What can take 2-3 clicks is lines of code in terminal. There's a difference between non-user friendly and archaic.

[editline]6th June 2011[/editline]

And trying to use it gives me errors in terminal anyways.[/QUOTE]

Part of the reason behind terminal is that it's universal. Not all Linux GUIs work the same: there are different desktop environments (GNOME, Unity, KDE, XFCE) which are all totally different from one another. One installation might not come with a GUI like another one.

But in ANY Linux terminal, there are the same general commands:

cp    # copy
ls -l # list files
cd    # change directory
mkdir # create a directory
rm    # remove file/directory (directory requires -r parameter)
sh    # execute shell script
vi    # edit text file
sudo  # do as superuser/administrator
su    # switch user
ssh   # connect to other computer, so that any commands you run from that point on execute in THAT computer.

Furthermore once you get used to Terminal, it ends up being MUCH faster for a lot of things.

[The Baconator]

Ok I solved my issue, I wasn't spotting the "are you sure y/n" question the terminal asks me (it got lost in the plethora of text).

It's installed, but there are three icons, ubuntu, a grey ubuntu, and Windows. Can I delete the gray one (I believe it's the recovery mode).

[Lyokanthrope]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;30300297]Ok I solved my issue, I wasn't spotting the "are you sure y/n" question the terminal asks me (it got lost in the plethora of text).

It's installed, but there are three icons, ubuntu, a grey ubuntu, and Windows. Can I delete the gray one (I believe it's the recovery mode).[/QUOTE]
You'd probably have to edit the menu. I'm not sure how to that with BURG, sorry. Google it!

[The Baconator]

ah you press f

[moesislack]

Linux a derivative of Unix was made for the makers of Unix. They made an OS they thought was useful and efficient. If you don't like it don't use it. It was made in a time where there weren't any fancy guis. Before there was even screens shit was printed out on paper *hence pwd print working directory* Although Ubuntu was made to be user friendly you should be glad that you have to type your password before entering a command. You can completely delete the whole file system in Unix with one command that has no confirmation. rm -f -r / (I think (I don't remove the whole filesystem often))
Ubuntu is user friendly it asks you for an admin password because you can break the system with one command or in this case because it has a gui one mouse click.

[ASmellyOgre]

[QUOTE=moesislack;30301105]Linux a derivative of Unix was made for the makers of Unix. They made an OS they thought was useful and efficient.[/QUOTE]

No.

[quote=Wikipedia]In 1991 while attending the University of Helsinki, Torvalds, curious about the operating systems and frustrated by the licensing of MINIX limiting it to educational use only (which prevented any commercial use), began to work on his own operating system which eventually became the Linux kernel.[/quote]

Also, Linux is Unix-like, but not at all Unix.

[editline]Thefuckisthisshit?[/editline]

[quote=moesislack;30301105]Before there was even screens shit was printed out on paper *hence pwd print working directory*[/quote]

:raise:

[The Baconator]

Ticker tape was not being used in the 90's bro.

[st0rmforce]

[QUOTE=moesislack;30301105]Linux a derivative of Unix was made for the makers of Unix. They made an OS they thought was useful and efficient. If you don't like it don't use it. It was made in a time where there weren't any fancy guis. Before there was even screens shit was printed out on paper *hence pwd print working directory* Although Ubuntu was made to be user friendly you should be glad that you have to type your password before entering a command. You can completely delete the whole file system in Unix with one command that has no confirmation. rm -f -r / (I think (I don't remove the whole filesystem often))
Ubuntu is user friendly it asks you for an admin password because you can break the system with one command or in this case because it has a gui one mouse click.[/QUOTE]

I love it when people dispense knowledge that they've made up.

[esalaka]

It's more like "Back when modern computing terminology was being initially created teletype terminals were sorta popular, hence print" anyway