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Ontopic: It's fine, apart from the CPU, get an i5-750 instead, you will not see any difference in games
look it's another case of someone getting told that their beloved shit sucks so they get all hyper defensive of bad, slow products so that they don't look stupid oops too late look, maybe your "enterprise" class Hitachi drives are good and maybe the "enterprise" class Samsung drives suck, but you're being retarded. This is about the masses, the consumers that buy shit with money out of their pocket. The Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB is the fastest hard drive you can buy, there is nothing faster except for the Velociraptor in certain cases that don't even matter. Stop going "where is samsung's 2TB drive", that's fucking dumb, and it's still slower than the F3, but I guess you're going to cling to that statement with your life because it's the only thing you can possibly say to keep yourself from going completely under. [editline]05:37PM[/editline] [url]http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2009/10/06/samsung-spinpoint-f3-1tb-review/1[/url]
[QUOTE=Odellus;23212297]look it's another case of someone getting told that their beloved shit sucks so they get all hyper defensive of bad, slow products so that they don't look stupid oops too late look, maybe your "enterprise" class Hitachi drives are good and maybe the "enterprise" class Samsung drives suck, but you're being retarded. This is about the masses, the consumers that buy shit with money out of their pocket. The Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB is the fastest hard drive you can buy, there is nothing faster except for the Velociraptor in certain cases that don't even matter. Stop going "where is samsung's 2TB drive", that's fucking dumb, and it's still slower than the F3, but I guess you're going to cling to that statement with your life because it's the only thing you can possibly say to keep yourself from going completely under. [editline]05:37PM[/editline] [url]http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2009/10/06/samsung-spinpoint-f3-1tb-review/1[/url][/QUOTE] This. And in the UK the spinpoint f3 is the cheapest 1TB HDD i can find.
oh, fun-fact: you can put two Spinpoint F3s in RAID 0 for $10 more than the Hitachi and it will completely destroy the Hitachi's performance (like it already does) [editline]05:40PM[/editline] fFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
I've had a Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.b for a while now, and other than the performance slowly ramping off (well, quickly shall we say for a fucking hard drive), it's been fine, it gets a bit hot for my liking, but I have shit airflow. It hasn't crashed once, it hasn't corrupted anything at random yet either. Though the write speed seems excruciatingly slow, deleting masses of files or saving huge files is a joke.
it's funny because my dad owns a 40GB Maxtor HDD and we've had it for something like 8 years and it's still working, he just doesn't have any more room in his case for hard drives because he just keeps buying them [editline]05:48PM[/editline] he has about 13 functioning hard drives, afaik
[QUOTE=Odellus;23212767]it's funny because my dad owns a 40GB Maxtor HDD and we've had it for something like 8 years and it's still working, he just doesn't have any more room in his case for hard drives because he just keeps buying them [editline]05:48PM[/editline] he has about 13 functioning hard drives, afaik[/QUOTE] I used to do that, at one point I had 17 drives before I started getting rid of some because I can't use them all at the same time
[QUOTE=hexpunK;23212706]I've had a Hitachi [b]Deathstar[/b] 7K1000.b for a while now, and other than the performance slowly ramping off (well, quickly shall we say for a fucking hard drive), it's been fine, it gets a bit hot for my liking, but I have shit airflow. It hasn't crashed once, it hasn't corrupted anything at random yet either. Though the write speed seems excruciatingly slow, deleting masses of files or saving huge files is a joke.[/QUOTE] Fixed
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;23214463]I used to do that, at one point I had 17 drives before I started getting rid of some because I can't use them all at the same time[/QUOTE] dunno why he does it, I should get him a few of [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815158097]these[/url]
Hitachi didn't receive it's nickname for fun. I always go Western Digital. Although I will be looking into Samsung when It comes time to buy another HDD. Also, not sure how reliable this site is but lol at where the first Hitachi is compared to the first Samsung. And look at the last 3 that scored. All Hitachi. [url]http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/common_drives.html[/url]
[QUOTE=ClaBrendon;23215228]Hitachi didn't receive it's nickname for fun. I always go Western Digital. Although I will be looking into Samsung when It comes time to buy another HDD.[/QUOTE] no but it got the nickname eight years ago when they actually did suck
[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;23215257]no but it got the nickname eight years ago when they actually did suck[/QUOTE]I still believe they do. I remember a FP member had 2 Hitachi Deskstars, which turned into Deathstars not long ago. Still, I would never touch a Hitachi.
Top 3 are SSD drives then it goes to samsung
[QUOTE=ClaBrendon;23215450]I still believe they do. I remember a FP member had 2 Hitachi Deskstars, which turned into Deathstars not long ago. Still, I would never touch a Hitachi.[/QUOTE] ok
Way to derail the thread guys. Get back on topic.
[QUOTE=ClaBrendon;23215228]Hitachi didn't receive it's nickname for fun. I always go Western Digital. Although I will be looking into Samsung when It comes time to buy another HDD. Also, not sure how reliable this site is but lol at where the first Hitachi is compared to the first Samsung. And look at the last 3 that scored. All Hitachi. [url]http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/common_drives.html[/url][/QUOTE] Thanks for that link, I've no idea on all the metrics involved in that score, but the highest performing 2TB drive in that chart is the Hitachis I recommended earlier. Was interesting to see how close the Intel SSDs were to the mechanical drives too. [QUOTE=Odellus;23212297]look it's another case of someone getting told that their beloved shit sucks so they get all hyper defensive of bad, slow products so that they don't look stupid oops too late look, maybe your "enterprise" class Hitachi drives are good and maybe the "enterprise" class Samsung drives suck, but you're being retarded. This is about the masses, the consumers that buy shit with money out of their pocket. The Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB is the fastest hard drive you can buy, there is nothing faster except for the Velociraptor in certain cases that don't even matter. Stop going "where is samsung's 2TB drive", that's fucking dumb, and it's still slower than the F3, but I guess you're going to cling to that statement with your life because it's the only thing you can possibly say to keep yourself from going completely under. [editline]05:37PM[/editline] [url]http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2009/10/06/samsung-spinpoint-f3-1tb-review/1[/url][/QUOTE] No where did I say the Hitachis are faster than the 1TB F3's, I explicitly stated that the Hitachis are the fastest 2TB drives and Samsung didn't have anything to compete with them. And for what it's worth, you're the one who sounds desperate to defend his shit. I own 3 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB drives and 2 F3 500GB drives. I have no beef whatsoever with Samsung and I wish Samsung would make a faster 2TB drive than the Hitachis, maybe I would pick up a few then, but they don't. And yeah. the F3's are super quick, especially in RAID0 - IF they stay in the array. But the 1TB drives have fallen out 3 or 4 times for me on my Areca controller and at least once on my Adaptec and when you have to rebuild your entire OS when that happens it begins to piss you off. So they're now relegated to system drives in my workstations. I also own a bunch of Seagate drives which I can confirm are utterly shit. The only other drives that I own other than the Hitachis which haven't given me grief are my WDs. They're rock solid too, but they're pricey when you want the 2TB drives with the RAID firmware, hence the Hitachis instead. Maybe next time you should read my posts and invest a bit more of your time in improving your reading comprehension, because as it stands it looks like you're arguing with yourself. And to the OP, my sincere apologies for going so OT in your thread. Good luck with your build.
backpedal
[QUOTE=Odellus;23226638]backpedal[/QUOTE] Grow up, seriously. If you don't understand what I wrote and the context it was written in you're either a (very poor) troll or someone with a very poor reading comprehension for their age. I stand by all my posts, the Hitachis are the fastest 2TB drives on the market. [B]No where[/B] did I suggest they're faster than the 1TB F3's. Read my posts again if you need to. I began by refuting the point someone made about current Hitachis being unreliable, from my personal and professional experience plus the anecdotal reports from many colleagues, fiends and posters at HardOCP this is not the case. To re-iterate: for some reason you seem to think I was attacking your beloved F3, no where did I compare the Hitachis with the 1TB F3, I think you'll find I was very explicit on this point. [editline]12:40PM[/editline] Ok by looking at your post history I can see you're just a troll. OP my apologies once again.
yes and I already stated you could simply put two F3s in RAID 0 for $10 more and much better performance but apparently you're using broken RAID controllers
Okay, my Maxtor is now 5 years old, not one problem with it, and my Hitachi has worked completely fine for the past 1.5 years. I don't know where you are getting these reviews from, but they are unfounded in my case.
[QUOTE=Odellus;23226786]yes and I already stated you could simply put two F3s in RAID 0 for $10 more and much better performance but apparently you're using broken RAID controllers[/QUOTE] So you agree with all my points apart from using the F3's in RAID0? Fair enough. My controllers are fine and are performing perfectly well thanks, notably my Areca has 8 Hitachis in RAID5 and I haven't had a single issue with dropped drives since I initialized it 4 months ago. Good luck with 2 F3's in RAID0 though, especially on an onboard fakeRAID controller (because 2 F3's plus a decent discrete hardware controller are much more expensive than a single 2TB drive) and when it comes to bigger arrays using 2 F3's for every 1 Hitachi, you're going to need to spend a lot more cash to pick up a 16 port controller card (if you take my case as an example) or a smaller controller with a drive expander plus you'll be seeing a significant increase in drive failures due to the sheer numbers involved.
STOP DERAILING THE THREAD GET BACK ON TOPIC a
the NAS where I used to work had some 500 GB Samsung drives for a while, and I do remember them occasionally falling out. They ended up upgrading to Western Digital RE3s a few weeks before I left, and as far as I know there haven't been any issues with them. Samsung drives are great, but imo no good for RAID.
hmm you know that's really too sad I guess I'm not going to be doing two F3s in RAID 0 now but instead just buy another Caviar Black 640GB.
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