Biggest asshole design moves - Hardware & Software

[QUOTE=Xera;28688241]When I click it doesn't open with my cursor over the exit button, but I've managed to hit the exit button while trying to open my friends list so many times.[/QUOTE] Ok, It isn't directly under your cursor if you keep your mouse still, but move it two pixels up and you're fucked.

[QUOTE=Xera;28687809]So you're saying you'd rather have a phone with 2 3.5mm jack ports(One amped the other unamped), 3 video out connectors(Composite, component and s-video), USB port, connector for remote control, a connector to power accessories and a serial port rather than one connector which can do all of these?[/QUOTE] USB, 3.5mm audio and mini HDMI, seriously. what the hell else is needed?

[QUOTE=Fatal-Error;28689225]USB, 3.5mm audio and mini HDMI, seriously. what the hell else is needed?[/QUOTE] I like the ability to put my iPod into my alarm clock dock and have my music play in the morning to wake me up. Unamped audio is useful for obvious reasons, a choice of video out is useful because not everybody has a TV with HDMI, and power for accessories is useful for things like FM transmitters. It's also nice to be able to plug an emergency battery charger into the bottom of the phone so you can continue using it without having to hold onto a battery dangling from your USB port. It gives you far more flexibility and although it's proprietary you can buy a solderable connector for a few pounds. Serial is also MUCH easier to use than USB if you want to do any communication with a microcontroller, as most have UARTs built in.

[QUOTE=Xera;28689423]a choice of video out is useful because not everybody has a TV with HDMI[/QUOTE] [img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DIRBl7CkL.jpg[/img] I remember when iPods used to support these, now you need a proprietary adapter

[QUOTE=kaze4159;28689934][img_thumb]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DIRBl7CkL.jpg[/img_thumb] I remember when iPods used to support these, now you need a proprietary adapter[/QUOTE] That cable is proprietary too. There is no standard saying which pin of the TRRS connector should connect to which RCA connector. We get this all the time at work - "I need a video out cable for my camera/video in cable for my mini projector/whatever" but they're all different.

[QUOTE=Xera;28689423]I like the ability to put my iPod into my alarm clock dock and have my music play in the morning to wake me up. Unamped audio is useful for obvious reasons, a choice of video out is useful because not everybody has a TV with HDMI, and power for accessories is useful for things like FM transmitters. It's also nice to be able to plug an emergency battery charger into the bottom of the phone so you can continue using it without having to hold onto a battery dangling from your USB port. It gives you far more flexibility and although it's proprietary you can buy a solderable connector for a few pounds. Serial is also MUCH easier to use than USB if you want to do any communication with a microcontroller, as most have UARTs built in.[/QUOTE] USB can do all of that. My list: -USB -HDMI -Jack -Optical (higher bitrate then any other connector) If you are into professional audio: -Midi -Xlr ALl the other crap is either anoyying "owned"adapters or useless old crap. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] And like 99% of all the flatscreen tv's has HDMI.

[QUOTE=taipan;28693301]USB can do all of that. My list: -USB -HDMI -Jack -Optical (higher bitrate then any other connector) If you are into professional audio: -Midi -Xlr ALl the other crap is either anoyying "owned"adapters or useless old crap. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] And like 99% of all the flatscreen tv's has HDMI.[/QUOTE] USB can do all of that but it's way more expensive to implement and much more difficult too. (For accessory makers)

[QUOTE=axon;28684319]more performance[/QUOTE] Yah. People don't realize that AMD can keep compatibility because all they do is add cores and cache to the same architecture.

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[QUOTE=Xera;28693327]USB can do all of that but it's way more expensive to implement and much more difficult too. (For accessory makers)[/QUOTE] I somehow doubt it is more difficult to implement over some closed off propriety thing like Apples connectors for most accessories on the market, what with it essentially being a standard now.

[QUOTE=MelonGuy;28686595]Are you sure? I buy mp3s from iTunes by default all the time with no DRM?[/QUOTE] iTunes sells music in the m4a format, not mp3.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;28693586]I somehow doubt it is more difficult to implement over some closed off propriety thing like Apples connectors for most accessories on the market, what with it essentially being a standard now.[/QUOTE] Uhh yes it is. The control protocol for iPods is public and is just serial. Almost all uCs have UARTs which makes that easy as hell and you just send bytes as commands to control playback. If you were to do it with USB you would need a USB driver(Though some uCs have them onboard) and MUCH more complicated software. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] To give you an idea, [url]http://www.sparkfun.com/products/633[/url] + any uC with a UART + components to drive the uC and you can make your own iPod accessory that can control playback. If they used USB you would be pretty much fucked because the protocols almost never get published and it is way more expensive and complicated to implement. [QUOTE=SA Spyder;28693805]iTunes sells music in the m4a format, not mp3.[/QUOTE] No, they used to sell it in m4a format. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] The specs for the dock connector are available [url=http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Apple_iPod_-_iPhone_dock]here[/url]. The protocol for controlling it are available [url=http://nuxx.net/wiki/Apple_Accessory_Protocol]here[/url]

[QUOTE=Xera;28693935]Uhh yes it is. The control protocol for iPods is public and is just serial. Almost all uCs have UARTs which makes that easy as hell and you just send bytes as commands to control playback. If you were to do it with USB you would need a USB driver(Though some uCs have them onboard) and MUCH more complicated software. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] To give you an idea, [url]http://www.sparkfun.com/products/633[/url] + any uC with a UART + components to drive the uC and you can make your own iPod accessory that can control playback. If they used USB you would be pretty much fucked because the protocols almost never get published and it is way more expensive and complicated to implement. No, they used to sell it in m4a format. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] The specs for the dock connector are available [url=http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Apple_iPod_-_iPhone_dock]here[/url].[/QUOTE] Uhhh, correct me if I'm wrong, but USB [b]is[/b] serial. The clue is in the name.

Not the same thing, though. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UART[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-232[/url]

[QUOTE=Xera;28693935]Uhh yes it is. The control protocol for iPods is public and is just serial. Almost all uCs have UARTs which makes that easy as hell and you just send bytes as commands to control playback. If you were to do it with USB you would need a USB driver(Though some uCs have them onboard) and MUCH more complicated software. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] To give you an idea, [url]http://www.sparkfun.com/products/633[/url] + any uC with a UART + components to drive the uC and you can make your own iPod accessory that can control playback. If they used USB you would be pretty much fucked because the protocols almost never get published and it is way more expensive and complicated to implement. The specs for the dock connector are available [url=http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Apple_iPod_-_iPhone_dock]here[/url].[/QUOTE] Fair point. I would have thought Apple would make something much more awkward than that.

[QUOTE=Xera;28693935]Uhh yes it is. The control protocol for iPods is public and is just serial. Almost all uCs have UARTs which makes that easy as hell and you just send bytes as commands to control playback. If you were to do it with USB you would need a USB driver(Though some uCs have them onboard) and MUCH more complicated software. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] To give you an idea, [url]http://www.sparkfun.com/products/633[/url] + any uC with a UART + components to drive the uC and you can make your own iPod accessory that can control playback. If they used USB you would be pretty much fucked because the protocols almost never get published and it is way more expensive and complicated to implement. No, they used to sell it in m4a format. [editline]19th March 2011[/editline] The specs for the dock connector are available [url=http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Apple_iPod_-_iPhone_dock]here[/url]. The protocol for controlling it are available [url=http://nuxx.net/wiki/Apple_Accessory_Protocol]here[/url][/QUOTE] Lol. On Apple products the driver is always in the product (ever seen an apple memory stick??) Because USB also needs to work on "passive" objects it needs the controller in the recieving end but this nets it more compatibillity. (its universal!) If we would all start using apples connector USB sticks would not work annymore or require controllers in the stick. I rather have a controller in 1 recieving device then my 4 usb sticks and all other crap i want to attach it to.

[QUOTE=taipan;28694241]Lol. On Apple products the driver is always in the product (ever seen an apple memory stick??) Because USB also needs to work on "passive" objects it needs the controller in the recieving end but this nets it more compatibillity. (its universal!) If we would all start using apples connector USB sticks would not work annymore or require controllers in the stick. I rather have a controller in 1 recieving device then my 4 usb sticks and all other crap i want to attach it to.[/QUOTE] What are you on about? This post makes no sense. Nobody is suggesting we use the dock connector for every device, rather I am suggesting that it makes sense on a phone. "On Apple products the driver is always in the product" what? Are you talking about software drivers being included on a memory stick or something? USB sticks HAVE controllers in the stick. That is how they communicate over USB and how they implement the USB mass storage protocol.

[QUOTE=Mad Chatter;28683970]Torx screw heads.[/QUOTE] Torx is actually a wonderful design, the only problem is that whenever you need to deal with them, you never have the fucking tools for it.

[QUOTE=Xera;28693935] No, they used to sell it in m4a format.[/QUOTE] No. They still sell it in m4a format.

[QUOTE=nikomo;28694507]Torx is actually a wonderful design, the only problem is that whenever you need to deal with them, you never have the fucking tools for it.[/QUOTE] I have around 20 Torx screwdrivers on my desk but all my flat screwdrivers disappeared :frog:

I've experienced this on a lot of devices that have adjustable volume. If the volume is controlled by a slider, like my DS, when you slide it all the way to the left it mutes it. So then I slide it very slowly to the right to turn it to the minimum, but the point at which the volume turns on is different then the point of minimum volume, so I have turn it back to the left ever so slightly to get the true minimum volume without having it muted. Here's a diagram: [img]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1156/poopj.jpg[/img] drives me fucking nuts cause i always find the minimum and think it goes quieter than that and then it turns off and i have to start the fucking brain surgery again.

[QUOTE=ze beaver;28695273]I have around 20 Torx screwdrivers on my desk but all my flat screwdrivers disappeared :frog:[/QUOTE] every single one of my screwdrivers fell off our boat yesterday. I don't know why my torx set was in there, but every single one is gone now. and the parts for my HTPC are coming in on monday

[QUOTE=Derpmeifter;28695901]and the parts for my HTPC are coming in on monday[/QUOTE] HTPC buddies! :hf:

[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;28695965]HTPC buddies! :hf:[/QUOTE] [img]http://avatars.fpcontent.net/image.php?u=230999&dateline=1262317780[/img]:respek:[img]http://avatars.fpcontent.net/image.php?u=340220&dateline=1299606059[/img]

[QUOTE=Rizzo;28684612]5.25" floppy disks...[/QUOTE] most software for Windows 3.11-95 was on floppies

[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;28695891]I've experienced this on a lot of devices that have adjustable volume. If the volume is controlled by a slider, like my DS, when you slide it all the way to the left it mutes it. So then I slide it very slowly to the right to turn it to the minimum, but the point at which the volume turns on is different then the point of minimum volume, so I have turn it back to the left ever so slightly to get the true minimum volume without having it muted. Here's a diagram: [img_thumb]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1156/poopj.jpg[/img_thumb] drives me fucking nuts cause i always find the minimum and think it goes quieter than that and then it turns off and i have to start the fucking brain surgery again.[/QUOTE] My volume slider on my DS seems to have something in it causing it to only switch between max and mute. Maybe I spilled something near my DS or had something on my fingers while changing the volume once.

What volume slider. I only have buttons. Freaking DSi. I gave my old blue original DS (with an added 20 hours or so of battery life in a 5 fucking pound brick attached) to someone because he nor anyone else in his family could afford one for him for his birthday. :smith:

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;28699763] I gave my old blue original DS (with an added 20 hours or so of battery life in a 5 fucking pound brick attached) to someone because he nor anyone else in his family could afford one for him for his birthday. :smith:[/QUOTE] Consider yourself lucky, your DS made someone happy. My bro sold my DS in a pawn shop to buy a bus ticket :frog:

Wow. That... If someone ever did that to me I would tear out their intestines and shove them down their throat.

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;28699956]Wow. That... If someone ever did that to me I would tear out their intestines and shove them down their throat.[/QUOTE] I would punch him if he wasn't on another coast :v: