• Windows 8 - "8" because cats were taken and dog races don't sound as intimidating
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[QUOTE=Panda X;41856677]Win+X and arrow keys would be quicker.[/QUOTE] I just push the physical power button :v:
[QUOTE=Panda X;41855826]So how come you're using XP's reputation after it was no longer new and Vista's reputation when it was new?[/QUOTE] I'm basing it on market data and adoption by the general public, not on how tech savy power users think of it now. Ask any average joe on the street what they think of windows 8 or vista and you'll get the same response. [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/xdwo7d.jpg[/IMG] Statistics don't lie. I will stop now though I fear I am derailing the thread.
[QUOTE=CPShArp;41858174]I'm basing it on market data and adoption by the general public, not on how tech savy power users think of it now. Ask any average joe on the street what they think of windows 8 or vista and you'll get the same response. [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/xdwo7d.jpg[/IMG] Statistics don't lie. I will stop now though I fear I am derailing the thread.[/QUOTE] Statistics don't lie, but they can be twisted to prove someone's point. You showed us a statistic of the desktop market share. I'm just gonna point this out: Market share =! Reputation. The statistic only shows the market share of each OS on the net. Nothing more or less. It does not indicate if the people that have to use those Operating systems like it, or not. Also, a big chunk of those Windows XP users are in china: [url]http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241429/China_has_a_massive_Windows_XP_problem[/url] Problem is, companies didn't consider migrating to a newer Version of the Windows operating system, because of Licensing fees, and the cost it produces in general (teaching users how to use windows 7/8), Support, and the time it needs to migrate, because the amount of money needed for such a change is huge Another factor is that some corporate software is not compatible with Windows Vista and newer. ([url]http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-terrified-the-enterprise-will-stick-with-xp-2009-2[/url]) I recently migrated most of the workers notebooks at work to Windows 7 (along with new Notebooks). It was a real pain in the ass, and the licensing issues were the biggest problems, and not to mention making sure every software still works, and then giving the workers courses on how to use windows 7.
[QUOTE=CPShArp;41858174]I'm basing it on market data and adoption by the general public, not on how tech savy power users think of it now. Ask any average joe on the street what they think of windows 8 or vista and you'll get the same response. [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/xdwo7d.jpg[/IMG] Statistics don't lie. I will stop now though I fear I am derailing the thread.[/QUOTE] That doesn't answer my question. It has nothing to do with tech savviness. My point is when XP came out it was regarded as shit. When Vista came out it was regarded a shit. Both operating systems are fine now. Not to mention with Vista's delayed release more people would eventually move to XP as it got better. Had 7 not released until 2012, having the same delay Vista had, the exact same thing would have happened. People would have moved to Vista after it became better and improved. However since 7 released on time everyone went there instead.
And besides, I actually liked Vista. It was a very good step away from looking like play-doh. [IMG]http://facepunch.com//fp/emoot/colbert.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=daijitsu;41849423]installed 8.1 preview yesterday, shit's killing me [I managed to fix this first issue by disabling a bunch of shell extensions]- attempting to open file explorer directly will crash explorer.exe and the graphics flicker to show my windows scheme color for a second, then reload my wallpaper. However, if I open it by trying to open a specific location (from recent locations list or a desktop shortcut to a folder), it opens fine. Furthermore, if I right click an individual file it acts normal but if I right click a folder with files in it, explorer.exe explodes. Second problem, similar to the first (and becoming more prevalent today)- if I hit the start button and begin typing a program name, it can take 5-10 seconds for the search list to actually display results. New issue today though, if I hit the start button and begin typing immediately (like I've always done), it can overload and just kill explorer.exe again. I have to wait a second or two for my tiles window to show up, sometimes it dies flat out when I hit the start button. ALSO, when I begin typing, it lags then gets the order messed up. for instance, I rolled my fingers (in order) along ASDF and it gave me this [img]http://i.imgur.com/4mydGjI.png[/img] then I very carefully pecked out 'fuck' really fast and it messed up entirely [img]http://i.imgur.com/bqgkVL2.png[/img] I also lost a good number of programs from my start menu, and trying to re-pin them gives me an error that there's no program associated with the type of file [img]http://i.imgur.com/L4xHtv8.png[/img] the only advice I've found (outside of the shell disabling) has been to update my graphics drivers to the 8.1 preview version, but that has only presented me with the start menu crashes [editline]15th August 2013[/editline] I'll be seeing my almostbrotherinlaw tomorrow/saturday, he's got a surface pro and I've got SAI and some wacom pens, I'll check for ya[/QUOTE] check your HDD status and health
Have anyone used Hyper-V on Windows 8 Pro yet? If so, how is it?
[QUOTE=Doritos_Man;41861966]Have anyone used Hyper-V on Windows 8 Pro yet? If so, how is it?[/QUOTE] As far as I know, it's the same as on a Windows Server 2012.
Guy´s i will just give 1 opinion , mutch people , say´s windows 8 sucks , and it is true , but mutch people say the because the start menu No that is not why win 8 sucks -win 8 sucks because net let you have same cracked program of microsoft -when you shotdown , he never shoot down , Ram momory is not deleted , so you need restart it to realy shot down the computer -windows 8 sucks for most part of games , make you have low FPS then the win 7 that are the reasons ! [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling or dumb" - SteveUK))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=virt15_PT;41862131]Guy´s i will just give 1 opinion , mutch people , say´s windows 8 sucks , and it is true , but mutch people say the because the start menu No that is not why win 8 sucks -win 8 sucks because net let you have same cracked program of microsoft -when you shotdown , he never shoot down , Ram momory is not deleted , so you need restart it to realy shot down the computer -windows 8 sucks for most part of games , make you have low FPS then the win 7 that are the reasons ![/QUOTE] Well at least if you're going to be a fucking idiot, you have all your bases covered
[QUOTE=Turing;41859700]check your HDD status and health[/QUOTE] haven't dug into any third party utilities on this, but checked for errors and fragmentation. Nothing at all, which I expect given the laptop is only 2 months old. 33 gigs available on main hard drive, 355gig on the solid state drive. (I've heard you can un-partition and join the two into one directory but that sounds strange) still extremely slow indexing when I attempt to search through start menu, though the text lag seems to not affect me half the time now. Start key still fries explorer.exe, but clicking start buton works OK. It's livable for now, albeit rather annoying
[QUOTE=daijitsu;41862293]haven't dug into any third party utilities on this, but checked for errors and fragmentation. Nothing at all, which I expect given the laptop is only 2 months old. 33 gigs available on main hard drive, 355gig on the solid state drive. (I've heard you can un-partition and join the two into one directory but that sounds strange) still extremely slow indexing when I attempt to search through start menu, though the text lag seems to not affect me half the time now. Start key still fries explorer.exe, but clicking start buton works OK. It's livable for now, albeit rather annoying[/QUOTE] Windows 8 seems to have some kinks. On my home machine, I can't even right click a photo without Explorer dying, and that's [I]after[/I] disabling all the unofficial shell extensions with ShellExView.
I'm just finding this odd since the machine came with 8 on it, it's entirely within the 8.1 preview. The cost of the bleeding edge I suppose
[QUOTE=Protocol7;41862321]Windows 8 seems to have some kinks. On my home machine, I can't even right click a photo without Explorer dying, and that's [I]after[/I] disabling all the unofficial shell extensions with ShellExView.[/QUOTE] Never heard of that before, certainly never experienced it myself. [editline]16th August 2013[/editline] Only issue I have [i]very[/i] rarely is that sometimes the hover effect on the taskbar icons will act like I'm constantly hovering over it. This happened multiple times a day on my Windows 7 installation but maybe twice a month max on Windows 8. It drives me crazy, but a quick CTRL ESC and restart Windows Explorer fixes it instantly.
[QUOTE=virt15_PT;41862131]Guy´s i will just give 1 opinion , mutch people , say´s windows 8 sucks , and it is true , but mutch people say the because the start menu No that is not why win 8 sucks -win 8 sucks because net let you have same cracked program of microsoft -when you shotdown , he never shoot down , Ram momory is not deleted , so you need restart it to realy shot down the computer -windows 8 sucks for most part of games , make you have low FPS then the win 7 that are the reasons ![/QUOTE] Part of me just wants to ignore your post, because your grammar really puts me off, but part of me really wants to prove your arguments wrong. 1. I can't really decrypt that sentence, but I'm gonna assume you mean that you can't use the same crack to activate windows 8. This is because windows 8 is a new version, and there are changes in place to prevent activation trough old tools meant for older versions of the operating system. Not that I support using pirated software, I just want to clarify things. 2. When you shut down Windows 8 it does really shut down, in terms of actually powering off. It basically hibernates the kernel session. A cold boot is just needed when doing updates, or if you want to access the Windows 8 partition using OSX or a GNU/Linu Some more information: [url]http://www.techopedia.com/definition/29080/hybrid-boot-windows-8[/url] Here some information on how to disable it if this is your thing, and if you actually have a reason to not have it activated (Highly unlikely): [url]http://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-hybrid-boot-and-shutdown-in-windows-8/2013/04/10[/url] Also I don't think you know what RAM is, or how it works. RAM in a powered off state is unable to hold any data. 3. Windows 8 is in fact better for playing games. First, because Windows 8 overall has a little performance boost compared to windows 7. Also Windows 8 supports directx 11.1 fully, while Windows 7 doesen't fully support it yet. (Source: [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh404562(v=vs.85).aspx)[/url]
[QUOTE=Panda X;41856677]Win+X and arrow keys would be quicker.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, mobility center. But I haven't seen a shut down option there, or what do you even NEED there?
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;41862908]Oh yeah, mobility center. But I haven't seen a shut down option there, or what do you even NEED there?[/QUOTE] What? Win+X is this: [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/iYVdaG.png[/IMG] [editline]16th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=virt15_PT;41862131]Guy´s i will just give 1 opinion , mutch people , say´s windows 8 sucks , and it is true , but mutch people say the because the start menu No that is not why win 8 sucks -win 8 sucks because net let you have same cracked program of microsoft -when you shotdown , he never shoot down , Ram momory is not deleted , so you need restart it to realy shot down the computer -windows 8 sucks for most part of games , make you have low FPS then the win 7 that are the reasons ![/QUOTE] I'm 86% sure your just a troll however: -Windows 8 doesn't affect your ability to run cracked programs. -It actually does delete the RAM, some things are dumped to disk to make Windows boot faster. Not everything only things essential to booting. -This is factually inaccurate. Benchmarks all show that gaming performance is the same as Windows 7 and that overall performance is slightly better than Windows 7. In game benchmarks you only see a fluctuation of 1 or 2 fps difference which can easily be chalked up to drivers, not the OS itself. [editline]16th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Doritos_Man;41861966]Have anyone used Hyper-V on Windows 8 Pro yet? If so, how is it?[/QUOTE] Every time I installed Hyper-V on 8 or on 8.1 my keyboard doesn't work on boot. It's such a pain in the ass to fix, I don't even bother with it anymore. And by on boot I mean on boot of my actual computer, not a virtual machine.
[QUOTE=Doritos_Man;41861966]Have anyone used Hyper-V on Windows 8 Pro yet? If so, how is it?[/QUOTE] I've used it last semester on my desktop to work on my Windows Server 2008 R2 assignments at home, the machines in our Windows Server lab at school run Server 2008 R2 and we run other Server 2008 R2 instances inside Hyper-V. It works flawlessly, it's the exact same software that you get with Server 2012. You don't get graphics acceleration like virtualbox, since it's aimed at running servers. But it's very solid in my experience, I run a copy of Windows XP and a couple Ubuntu Server VMs in Hyper-V and I haven't had any issues with it.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;41859398]And besides, I actually liked Vista. It was a very good step away from looking like play-doh. [IMG]http://facepunch.com//fp/emoot/colbert.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] Vista SP2 sure. I still use it on my old laptop. Its basically Windows 7 without some of the flair.
My Windows 8 Laptop isn't exactly getting me on this boat. I have to travel a lot mroe by mouse in Win 8, which is a pain with the trackpad, I still don't do anything in the Metro menus other than what I am forced to do there, and the scrollbars are fugly and fit with none of the MS standardized designs for desktop software. Other than that I haven't really used it yet, but the Metro features all haven't really done me any good yet. [editline]17th August 2013[/editline] Apparently I have to go through 4 Metro menus to reactivate WLAN, no other way to do it.
It appears windows 8 can not keep track of time all too well: [url]http://hwbot.org/news/9824_breaking_windows_8_benchmark_results_no_longer_accepted_at_hwbot[/url]
[QUOTE=jordguitar;41894189]It appears windows 8 can not keep track of time all too well: [url]http://hwbot.org/news/9824_breaking_windows_8_benchmark_results_no_longer_accepted_at_hwbot[/url][/QUOTE] I've had that issue on a Windows 7 system. I overclocked and the system clock started running faster. But to be fair, it was a crappy 775 motherboard.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41841771]is there any chance you could tell me how Paint tool Sai works on the pro? i have been considering one as a secondary mobile device/portable graphics tablet and it'd be great to carry it around instead of an intuos.[/QUOTE] two bits of news for you- I got SAI to run, but it did not accept my intuos 5 pen, meaning it requires its in-built pen (which he didn't have on him), so no test results for now. SECOND: [url=http://www.engadget.com/gallery/wacom-cintiq-companion/845801/#!slide=845797]Wacom just unveiled a stand-alone tablet PC Cintiq[/url] jesus christ on a pogo stick
[QUOTE=virt15_PT;41862131]Guy´s i will just give 1 opinion , mutch people , say´s windows 8 sucks , and it is true , but mutch people say the because the start menu No that is not why win 8 sucks -win 8 sucks because net let you have same cracked program of microsoft -when you shotdown , he never shoot down , Ram momory is not deleted , so you need restart it to realy shot down the computer -windows 8 sucks for most part of games , make you have low FPS then the win 7 that are the reasons ![/QUOTE] Prime example why we need smartness back
[QUOTE=jordguitar;41894189]It appears windows 8 can not keep track of time all too well: [url]http://hwbot.org/news/9824_breaking_windows_8_benchmark_results_no_longer_accepted_at_hwbot[/url][/QUOTE] I wondering if switching Windows from local time to UTC would fix it?
[QUOTE=jordguitar;41894189]It appears windows 8 can not keep track of time all too well: [url]http://hwbot.org/news/9824_breaking_windows_8_benchmark_results_no_longer_accepted_at_hwbot[/url][/QUOTE] I'm almost entirely convinced that this is why I have warping issues over time in Planetside 2 and why every game cutscene will start to desync with the audio Setting EPU Engine to not change the cpu clock or closing it completely delays it considerably but speedstep eventually causes issues This shit needs to be fixed
[QUOTE=SonicXV;41926637]I'm almost entirely convinced that this is why I have warping issues over time in Planetside 2 and why every game cutscene will start to desync with the audio Setting EPU Engine to not change the cpu clock or closing it completely delays it considerably but speedstep eventually causes issues This shit needs to be fixed[/QUOTE] You'd think they wouldn't pull this crap, considering every Sandy/Ivy processor has automatic overclocking enabled BY DEFAULT. Come on, Microsoft. Do you have any idea what the chip suppliers even do?
So, I'm thinking about going back to 7. 8 just looks really boring to me, even with some of the themes people made. Someone please convince me to not go back.
[QUOTE=Leather Belt;41937587]So, I'm thinking about going back to 7. 8 just looks really boring to me, even with some of the themes people made. Someone please convince me to not go back.[/QUOTE] - better Performance. - Faster startup. - you can replace the Start menu easily. - Access to the windows 8 app store (if thats your thing). - Better Task menager. - Better file explorer. - Ability to natively mount ISO's. - Hyper-V on Windows 8 Professional. - Many under-the-hood changes. - Skydrive integration (if you use it) - less intrusive updates - Better security (older security flaws don't work on windows 8) - Much better touch screen support. (if you can use it) - Better support for multiple displays - Better at finding the right drivers for your hardware. - You can actually customize your lockscreen now (native) - Preinstalled antivirus - Windows 8 is completly backwards compatible - Get priorities with updates. - Internet explorer 10 preinstalled. - Refresh / reset windows feature. - Ability to log in with your microsoft account, and get your settings synchronized on every computer you login to. Also soon windows 8.1 will be released as a free update to windows 8, which will bring many more features and overhauls. - The start button is back - Better App snapping - Better transition from the startmenu to the desktop. - Much more ways to customize your start menu. - Many preinstalled apps are overhauled. - Better lockscreen customisation - Windows store redesigned - Many changed to make a more pleasant experience on the PC. - Small changes everywhere to make the UI experience better.
I am updating to Windows 8 right now. I hope I won't regret that move.
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