DDR3 or DDR5 graphics card? What's the difference?
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I can find them, but why shouldn't I get a 2GB?
If you are using a single monitor, you don't need 2GB VRAM.
[QUOTE=Armotekma;30846880]If you are using a single monitor, you don't need 2GB VRAM.[/QUOTE]
Alright, I was thinking it'd make it even more futureproof but since apparently there's no need I'll go with 1GB.
[QUOTE=Armotekma;30846880]If you are using a single monitor, you don't need 2GB VRAM.[/QUOTE]
there's no such thing as "you don't need"
he can decide if he wants the extra performance or not
[QUOTE=Odellus;30859556]there's no such thing as "you don't need"
he can decide if he wants the extra performance or not[/QUOTE]
extra performance, more like 0fps when you hit 2gb usage
he's playing at 1680x1050, how the fuck would 2gb vram even give him extra performance
[QUOTE=Armotekma;30859667]extra performance, more like 0fps when you hit 2gb usage
he's playing at 1680x1050, how the fuck would 2gb vram even give him extra performance[/QUOTE]
Megatexture. Certain idtech games use that for storing very large textures (up to 128000x128000). Normally, they're streamed from the hard drive - only a few 1024x1024 sections are in VRAM at once. But with 2GB of VRAM, it can keep more in memory, reducing the amount of streaming needed.
[QUOTE=Armotekma;30859667]extra performance, more like 0fps when you hit 2gb usage
he's playing at 1680x1050, how the fuck would 2gb vram even give him extra performance[/QUOTE]
it's called anti aliasing, hi res texture packs, and playing games where 4096x4096 textures are everywhere
[editline]2nd July 2011[/editline]
what does "more like 0fps when you hit 2gb usage" mean
I'm behind, stil running dual core and ddr2 here. I feel left out , but I've never found a game I couldn't run yet so no reason to upgrade.
whoops, was completely wrong on this one.
[sp]was thinking about a 1gb card going over it's vram and getting shit performance[/sp]
[QUOTE=Capn'Underpants;30862836]I'm behind, stil running dual core and ddr2 here. I feel left out , but I've never found a game I couldn't run yet so no reason to upgrade.[/QUOTE]
Witcher 2, crysis 2?
[QUOTE=Armotekma;30870589]whoops, was completely wrong on this one.
[sp]was thinking about a 1gb card going over it's vram and getting shit performance[/sp][/QUOTE]
that doesn't happen
[QUOTE=Capn'Underpants;30862836]I'm behind, stil running dual core and ddr2 here. I feel left out , but I've never found a game I couldn't run yet so no reason to upgrade.[/QUOTE]
Same. Excusable since it's a laptop, and since I'm no longer employed (full-time college), I can't afford a new one. But the only game I've ever had trouble running was Dead Space (Crysis runs fine at medium, I max out half the older games I play), so I haven't really felt the need to upgrade.
I think it is a bit unfair that so many people have rated the OP dumb. I thought the whole point of this sub forum was for friendly advice regardless of a lack of knowledge.
Then again this is Facepunch <3
[QUOTE=nikomo;30878678]Hahahahahahahaha
No.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=rapmaster;30877890]
Then again this is Facepunch [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Armotekma;30817583]yes it will lol
[sp]nobody said anything about playable framerate![/sp][/QUOTE]
Are you saying crysis is playable on my old imb color graphics sitting behind me?
[QUOTE=Teh Kitteh;30879746]Are you saying crysis is playable on my old imb color graphics sitting behind me?[/QUOTE]
Theoretically, it could be. You'd need to make QEMU work on it (if it's a CGA, I'm assuming it's a 16-bit 8088 or 286), and also write a DX9 "device" for QEMU. But, since all modern computers are Turing-complete (given sufficient memory - and swap space counts as memory), you can theoretically run Crysis on anything.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;30879855]Theoretically, it could be. You'd need to make QEMU work on it (if it's a CGA, I'm assuming it's a 16-bit 8088 or 286), and also write a DX9 "device" for QEMU. But, since all modern computers are Turing-complete (given sufficient memory - and swap space counts as memory), you can theoretically run Crysis on anything.[/QUOTE]
:pwn:
[QUOTE=Teh Kitteh;30880206]:pwn:[/QUOTE]
He's correct. However, playability and running it are two separate things. The program may run and data revolving around it may run through the computer's components, essentially working on a computer level, but on a user level, it'd look like a giant lagging sack of shit that should never have happened and may be proof that there is no god, for such an atrocity is unholy.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;30880486]He's correct. However, playability and running it are two separate things. The program may run and data revolving around it may run through the computer's components, essentially working on a computer level, but on a user level, it'd look like a giant lagging sack of shit that should never have happened and [b]may be proof that there is no god, for such an atrocity is unholy[/b].[/QUOTE]
Wow, even extremely old hardware is smarter then most of the human population :v:
[QUOTE=Teh Kitteh;30880206]:pwn:[/QUOTE]
Turing-completeness. A Turing Machine is a theoretical computer capable of a finite number of functions, with a definite state and operation. A computer is referred to as Turing-complete if it is able to solve any problem solvable by another Turing Machine. Likewise, any problem solvable by one Turing machine can be solved by any.
Essentially every modern computer is Turing-complete, given the provision that it has infinite memory. All it needs is a certain number of operations: the basic arithmetic operators (+-*/) and a conditional jump are all that are strictly necessary. There were, once upon a time, computers that were not Turing complete (they lacked the conditional jump), but those are no more.
Crysis is, essentially, a mathematical problem. A massive one, but not even a particularly difficult one. Just tedious. It can thus theoretically be solved by any Turing-complete computer that has sufficient memory. Just slap a terabyte hard drive in your 286, set it as a swap partition, and wait a week or ten for the first frame to render.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;30880562]Turing-completeness. A Turing Machine is a theoretical computer capable of a finite number of functions, with a definite state and operation. A computer is referred to as Turing-complete if it is able to solve any problem solvable by another Turing Machine. Likewise, any problem solvable by one Turing machine can be solved by any.
Essentially every modern computer is Turing-complete, given the provision that it has infinite memory. All it needs is a certain number of operations: the basic arithmetic operators (+-*/) and a conditional jump are all that are strictly necessary. There were, once upon a time, computers that were not Turing complete (they lacked the conditional jump), but those are no more.
Crysis is, essentially, a mathematical problem. A massive one, but not even a particularly difficult one. Just tedious. It can thus theoretically be solved by any Turing-complete computer that has sufficient memory. Just slap a terabyte hard drive in your 286, set it as a swap partition, and wait a week or ten for the first frame to render.[/QUOTE]
I have an urge to test. What would 8bit color crysis look like?
[QUOTE=Teh Kitteh;30880904]I have an urge to test. What would 8bit color crysis look like?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/PZDSG.png[/img]
Crysis, at VGA resolution (640x480), and in 256-color mode (I think - didn't count the colors myself).
what about 4 bit colour mode?
The sheer complexity of doing that would be ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Capn'Underpants;30883742]Yep. Easily.[/QUOTE]
What's your resolution?
[QUOTE=gman003-main;30881125][img]http://i.imgur.com/PZDSG.png[/img]
Crysis, at VGA resolution (640x480), and in 256-color mode (I think - didn't count the colors myself).[/QUOTE]
The definition of VGA is 640x480x16 colors. 640x480x256 colors is SVGA.
[QUOTE=bohb;30916271]The definition of VGA is 640x480x16 colors. 640x480x256 colors is SVGA.[/QUOTE]
WOOOW.
Gman was wrong again!
[QUOTE=tratzzz;30918289]WOOOW.
Gman was wrong again![/QUOTE]
Even Aristotle forgot to carry the four sometimes.
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