• The "Quick Questions that does not Deserve a Thread"...Thread. V4
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[QUOTE=Lui2112;46821370]Yes. I know it's not a gaming machine. Seeming the only games I play are Valve games. I can run CS:GO at Max settings very smoothly even on Modded severs. Just this sever must of had alot of props in one area, because overall I can quite easy "game on this laptop for them games. I did notice memory usage was very high overall and if it does make a a noticeable difference. It's worth the upgrade.[/QUOTE] Also is it only 1 4gb stick? Another 4gb would help as integrated graphics are one of the few things that will see an increase with dual channel memory.
[QUOTE=Levelog;46821450]Also is it only 1 4gb stick? Another 4gb would help as integrated graphics are one of the few things that will see an increase with dual channel memory.[/QUOTE] Whys that? I Currently I have oen 4GB Stick. It has another 3 spare slots for RAM, up to 16GB it takes. I don't know if 16GB would be worth it cost wise/performance, so I'd need advice on that.
[QUOTE=Lui2112;46822015]Whys that? I Currently I have oen 4GB Stick. It has another 3 spare slots for RAM, up to 16GB it takes. I don't know if 16GB would be worth it cost wise/performance, so I'd need advice on that.[/QUOTE] Most current processors use what's called a "dual-channel" memory controller, which means they can read or write to two sticks of memory at once, if you have them. When you're doing a lot of memory I/O, that can help quite a lot, and 3D rendering is practically nothing but memory I/O. Some CPUs have more than two channels, and almost all GPUs have more than two, but your CPU is dual-channel like most. Just a comparison of memory bandwidths here, to let you know how much it matters: Single-channel DDR3-1600: 12.8GB/s (about what you have now) Dual-channel DDR3-1600: 25.6GB/s (what you would have with two sticks) Quad-channel DDR3-1600: 51.2GB/s (very high-end CPU, Xb1 full system) Single-channel GDDR5@6GHz: 48GB/s (bottom-tier video card, GT730) Dual-channel GDDR5@6GHz: 96GB/s (low mid-tier video card, GTX750Ti) Quad-channel GDDR5@6GHz: 192GB/s (high mid-tier video card, GTX770, PS4 full system) Hex-channel GDDR5@6GHz: 288GB/s (top-end video card, GTX980Ti) They aren't putting that much memory bandwidth into these things just for the hell of it - quite often, GPUs are stuck idling while waiting for some memory bandwidth.
For systems with a dedicated card you aren't going to see any differences for single channel vs dual nowadays for gaming, but when you're using integrated it can make quite difference.
[QUOTE=TheJoker;46817469]Is there any possible way I can reset all 3 of my monitor's brightness, contrast, and gamme settings via a bat file or something?[/QUOTE] To expand on this.. sometimes whenever I play a game, it sometimes resets all 3 of my monitors brightness,gamma and saturation.
So a friend of mine had to move out with his family due to personal issues to a single-floor apartment. His bedroom is all the way in the back of the house, and the router is on the front. This is a distance of maybe 10-15 meters with 5-6 thick walls between there. As a result he has really shitty WiFi. I had an old router laying around to hook up our old Linksys WRT54G2 V1 to a unmanaged Netgear switch that's laying in his room so he can at least get a WiFi signal for his phone. Now the thing is, I've set it up for him at my home connection (SSID and password), and for some reason whenever we try to load a page for example on our phones from it, we never get connection. The router itself shows it has a working connection, but I barely see the icon flash. I've tried a factory reset, and many reboots but hasn't worked at all. The strangest is, I've used this very router on a similar setup in my bedroom without any problems, but I swapped it with our WRT320N which we also had laying around. [T]http://i.imgur.com/lJIPsBF.jpg[/T] Any idea what may be going on with this thing?
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46822538]Where are you making these changes? Because a game can't for it's life touch monitor settings at all. If it's a driver level setting then yes it possibly could touch and fiddle around.[/QUOTE] I had to adjust it on my monitors and in Nvidia Control Panel. When I first got the monitors.. everything was washed out like black was grey and blue was light blue.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;46822184]Most current processors use what's called a "dual-channel" memory controller, which means they can read or write to two sticks of memory at once, if you have them. When you're doing a lot of memory I/O, that can help quite a lot, and 3D rendering is practically nothing but memory I/O. Some CPUs have more than two channels, and almost all GPUs have more than two, but your CPU is dual-channel like most. Just a comparison of memory bandwidths here, to let you know how much it matters: Single-channel DDR3-1600: 12.8GB/s (about what you have now) Dual-channel DDR3-1600: 25.6GB/s (what you would have with two sticks) Quad-channel DDR3-1600: 51.2GB/s (very high-end CPU, Xb1 full system) Single-channel GDDR5@6GHz: 48GB/s (bottom-tier video card, GT730) Dual-channel GDDR5@6GHz: 96GB/s (low mid-tier video card, GTX750Ti) Quad-channel GDDR5@6GHz: 192GB/s (high mid-tier video card, GTX770, PS4 full system) Hex-channel GDDR5@6GHz: 288GB/s (top-end video card, GTX980Ti) They aren't putting that much memory bandwidth into these things just for the hell of it - quite often, GPUs are stuck idling while waiting for some memory bandwidth.[/QUOTE] I'm wanting to upgrade memory, I currently have 8gb of G.Skill Sniper Ram (2x4gb) at DDR3 1600. I have an i5 4670k and 2 GTX 760's in SLI, should I buy 2 more 4gb sticks to total up to 4 sticks at 16gb, or should I replace my existing sticks to total up to 2 sticks at 16gb? (so 2x8gb)
[QUOTE=Smallheart;46822845]I'm wanting to upgrade memory, I currently have 8gb of G.Skill Sniper Ram (2x4gb) at DDR3 1600. I have an i5 4670k and 2 GTX 760's in SLI, should I buy 2 more 4gb sticks to total up to 4 sticks at 16gb, or should I replace my existing sticks to total up to 2 sticks at 16gb? (so 2x8gb)[/QUOTE] Technically speaking you should buy a new 8x2 set. But in reality modern consumer memory controllers have no trouble as long as the new kit is similar.
[QUOTE=Smallheart;46822845]I'm wanting to upgrade memory, I currently have 8gb of G.Skill Sniper Ram (2x4gb) at DDR3 1600. I have an i5 4670k and 2 GTX 760's in SLI, should I buy 2 more 4gb sticks to total up to 4 sticks at 16gb, or should I replace my existing sticks to total up to 2 sticks at 16gb? (so 2x8gb)[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter. On a dual-channel CPU, once you have two sticks, you don't get any speed benefit from going wider. 4x4GB and 2x8GB will run pretty much identically. I'd go with the 4x4GB just because it'll be cheaper.
Thanks for the info guys :) Have a great new year!
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46822705]Well there's your problem. And that's why some games can fuck with it, you're better off adjusting it on the monitors themselves rather then screwing around with the nvidia panel.[/QUOTE] Monitor's brightness and other stuff can only go so far. NCP helps a lot with that.
4K monitors - Yay or nay? My current setup consists of 1x 23' 3D monitor and 1x 23' standard 60hz montior, running a GTX 970 Woud likely run the 3D one as secondard and the 4k as primary and scrap the 60hz one untill I got a desk to which fits 3 screens (AKA in a very loooong time) (I dont use the 3D feature very often mainly when I watch 3D blu ray - Im not expecting to run 4k and 3D at the same time)
[QUOTE=lordofdafood;46824478]4K monitors - Yay or nay? My current setup consists of 1x 23' 3D monitor and 1x 23' standard 60hz montior, running a GTX 970 Woud likely run the 3D one as secondard and the 4k as primary and scrap the 60hz one untill I got a desk to which fits 3 screens (AKA in a very loooong time) (I dont use the 3D feature very often mainly when I watch 3D blu ray - Im not expecting to run 4k and 3D at the same time)[/QUOTE] 1440p imo
[QUOTE=Medevila;46825241]Clearly it isn't ideal, but how crippling would it be to use an external HDD on USB 2.0 instead of 3.0[/QUOTE] With an excellent controller and a slow ass drive it would still be noticeable from a speed standpoint, what are you transferring or using on the drive though? If it's just a media drive it's not going to really matter as far as viewing/listening to the media.
[QUOTE=Medevila;46825556]Using it almost exclusively for games [editline]31st December 2014[/editline] 7200 RPM 1 TB WD drive, I don't know caviar/green/etc without really checking[/QUOTE] greens are 5900RPM
[QUOTE=Levelog;46822459]For systems with a dedicated card you aren't going to see any differences for single channel vs dual nowadays for gaming, but when you're using integrated it can make quite difference.[/QUOTE] Okay so if I upgraded from 4GB to 8GB(16GB doesn't seem necessary, cost wise from what I can gather so far)i'd see a big difference? Not only because it became 8GB, but it'd be Dual-channel now. How does that work? Like kiwi said earlier, I'm running CS:GO on max. Even on mod severs, but if the Gmod, or CS:GO sever, has heavy addons, models my FPS does begin to drop. Saying that my GPU can idle if it hasn't got enough memory might explain why my Memory usage is so high, yet the laptop is cool and very quiet. Despite the FPS drop. The fan is probably more for CPU/GPU than RAM, correct. As I noticed on the mac the fan would really get loud running CPU intensive games, but on Desktop with dozens of safari tabs+app's it was just slow.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46827562]dual channel doubles the amount of bandwidth that the cpu and igpu can have, that's it[/QUOTE] Also the fact that 4gb of memory is very slim for shared memory. 8gb will definitely give more breathing room.
Okay so go for a 4GB, to bring it up to 8GB. Is it worth venturing into 12-16GB. It seems to me a double up on memory would do it based on the information shared by you guys above. 12-16GB for just HL2/Gmod/CS:Go might just be wasted memory. Unless I plan on running other aps simultaneously.
Thanks for all the help. Would the 4GB explain why when i launched HL2/Gmod/CS:GO for the first time on my current laptop, and old one I used. I was presented with the same recommended Graphic settings, all in the low/medium ranges. This wasn't surprising on my old laptop, but on my new one, I was. Both Laptops had 4GB RAM. So maybe that's the difference I'm seeing, between 4GB ram vs 8GB on laptops with non-dedicated graphics.
Whenever I shut down my PC running Windows 8.1, I get this error and code. I forget the error but the code was 0x3303a02f. Googling it comes up with nothing so I have no idea what to do with it ha
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46828036]do you have skype running? cause i get that error every time and it's a known error and it wont ever get fixed :v:[/QUOTE] I do have Skype but duno if its running constantly. I guess with Windows 8 it's probably got the app running all the time?
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46827737]going past 8GB is insane, unless you like minecraft mods or virtual machines[/QUOTE] 16 is hardly insane nowadays. Its really nice, I can have a 4GB ramdisk r/w cache, spotify, tabs galore in chrome and be playing vidya, while still having a couple gigs of free memory
is there a way to put multiple boot images on a single USB pen?
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46827737]going past 8GB is insane, unless you like minecraft mods or virtual machines[/QUOTE] photoshop + a few 24MP RAW files on top of casual computer usage would tear through that [editline]31st December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Medevila;46825241]Clearly it isn't ideal, but how crippling would it be to use an external HDD on USB 2.0 instead of 3.0[/QUOTE] max 35MB/s vs. max 625MB/s.
[QUOTE=PredGD;46828966]is there a way to put multiple boot images on a single USB pen?[/QUOTE] Yumi
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46827737]going past 8GB is insane, unless you like minecraft mods or virtual machines[/QUOTE] What about running texturing softwares (Quixel) and Maya and Unreal Engine? I have 8gb RAM and wanna upgrade but if it won't help my performance I don't wanna bother.
[QUOTE=Levelog;46829794]Yumi[/QUOTE] I gave it a shot, but it refuses to boot. it skips it and boots into Windows instead even when directly selecting it in the boot menu. any idea what might be the issue? the USB pen is an 8GB Kingston Datatraveler 111
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46830533]Okay people are taking the 8GB sweetspot out of context and it's now driving me insane. 4GB of ram is fine for budget rigs that aren't gaming like people for grannies or people who don't even game. 8GB is fine for *MOST* gamers, I say it's fine for most because there are some like me who go beyond 8GB. 16GB+ if you're rendering and doing heavy duty shit I don't even have to explain it. If you're maxing it out and struggling buy some more they are not a bank breaker. [editline]1st January 2015[/editline] UEFI is messing with it.[/QUOTE] Thanks, sorry mate.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;46830533] UEFI is messing with it.[/QUOTE] booted fine in legacy, thank you!
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