[QUOTE=Van-man;52116350]'Least a 20 year old bash script can handle shutdown or suspend without hanging and actually is configurable without juggling with various utilities.
[b]Or not suddenly rocket up system resource usage.[/b]
it's the antithesis if what I need from a init system.[/QUOTE]
You're going to have to explain this one since I have [b]never[/b] seen the main daemon use more than 12MB of memory, and I know that's going to cgroup tracking which is a genuine advantage.
Right now on 5 production machines I have it using 12MB, 3MB, 10MB, 12MB and 2MB. These are running Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10 and RHEL 7.
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52116338]I'm assuming this too or at least a month or year off the subscription on CC.
Kinda neat but then ehhhh.[/QUOTE]
But I also wouldn't be paying 2.2k for a laptop for design shit
if I went into depth about it, it could make more sense, but you have your work items in the adobe cloud. Having multiple desktop scenerios could be more cost effective, but it depends on the use-case.
Like, if you had a good internet connection, you can just render videos externally in a dedicated machine for it.
but hey, the part that kills it actually is Windows 10 Home.
[editline]18th April 2017[/editline]
The longer I stall my posts thinking about the technicalities, the more time I waste away waiting for my phone to charge
[QUOTE=wingless;52116364]You're going to have to explain this one since I have [B]never[/B] seen the main daemon use more than 12MB of memory, and I know that's going to cgroup tracking which is a genuine advantage.
Right now on 5 production machines I have it using 12MB, 3MB, 10MB, 12MB and 2MB. These are running Ubuntu 16.04, 16.10 and RHEL 7.[/QUOTE]
That usually happens around a bit before I try to shutdown/suspend the machine, but systemd throws a bitchfit and all "solutions" I've found boiled down to the Windows solution of hard shutdown/reset.
Xubuntu 16.04.
If only Gentoo and friends were a bit more "normie" friendly for getting a desktop OS up and running, but atleast I actually learned something while trying to make those work, unlike systemd.
[QUOTE=Van-man;52116396]That usually happens around the same time a bit before I try to shutdown/suspend the machine, but systemd throws a bitchfit and all "solutions" I've found boiled down to the Windows solution of hard shutdown/reset.
Xubuntu 16.04.
If only Gentoo and friends were a bit more "normie" friendly for getting a desktop OS up and running, but atleast I actually learned something while trying to make those work, unlike systemd.[/QUOTE]
What actually happens?
[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52115872]Hate to burst your bubble, but [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIL-STD-810#Applicability_to_.22ruggedized.22_consumer_products"]MIL-STD-810 doesn't define what are acceptable limits, it just defines test methods[/URL][/QUOTE]
I see. Yeah, I was wondering what that actually meant.
[QUOTE], so I'd be dubious as to what that ThinkPad can handle unless you specifically request test documents from the manufacture that state what altitudes, drops, temperature extremes, etc it can handle. Furthermore you'd want to see the laptop's IP rating (For dust and liquid ingress)
The most believable laptop that is actually ruggedized are the [URL="ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/panasonic/toughbook/specsheets/TB-31_ss.pdf"]ToughBooks, considering they have gaskets on just about every port, immersion resistant up to 1m (IP68) built in heaters for the harddrive and display, and are certified drop proof.[/URL][/QUOTE]
Of course it's nothing like a Toughbook (or any laptop advertised as rugged), I'm just saying it's sturdier than you'd expect.
[editline]17th April 2017[/editline]
Systemd is a great idea, implemented by terrible people
[QUOTE=wingless;52116348]Honestly, my experience with binary logging is that most distros just ship with classic plaintext logging in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog like before. So I've never actually ran into a problem with that.[/QUOTE]
Last I checked, they're just duplicating the logs, but I'm not sure on that anymore. It's trivial to configure.
[QUOTE=Van-man;52116350]'Least a 20 year old bash script can handle shutdown or suspend without hanging and actually is configurable without juggling with various utilities.[/QUOTE]
I've had [B]zero[/B] shutdown or suspend problems with systemd in god knows how many years it has been, I think 4 years, on Arch, Fedora, Debian and lately Ubuntu.
[QUOTE=Van-man;52116350]Or not suddenly rocket up system resource usage.[/QUOTE]
I've configured Debian systems running systemd in under 64MiB RAM usage easily, and I've never witnessed a systemd service eating up resources.
[QUOTE=Van-man;52116350]it's the antithesis if what I need from a init system.[/QUOTE]
If what you need from an init system is to start up your system and then do nothing, then your use case for a init system is pretty limited.
Service management is a pretty important thing to have on basically any system, and with SysVinit it was completely trivial to make the system lose track of processes so a service could not be shut down.
[QUOTE=nikomo;52116525]Last I checked, they're just duplicating the logs, but I'm not sure on that anymore. It's trivial to configure.[/QUOTE]
It's just syslog forwarding. Easy as piss to set up if you don't have it, but you likely do already.
The thing I found with systemd is that accepting it is like the five stages of grief. Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance. I've done this myself and know many others that have too.
I always hated the old style service scripts, so I honestly skipped like, all of those stages.
Poettering is still an idiot though. But he's not God-Emperor of the project, thankfully.
[QUOTE=nikomo;52116553]I always hated the old style service scripts, so I honestly skipped like, all of those stages.
Poettering is still an idiot though. But he's not God-Emperor of the project, thankfully.[/QUOTE]
Poettering's a cunt. I'll happily admit that. But he's right in units being better than sysvinit scripts.
[QUOTE=wingless;52116402]What actually happens?[/QUOTE]
SystemD literally hangs when initiating shutdown or suspend.
Sometimes the desktop is still usable sometimes not.
It has reached the point where I just lock the computer unless i need to move it.
I've already come to the conclusion I'd have a easier to replacing it with OpenRC than making this shit work my way.
[QUOTE=Van-man;52116597]SystemD literally hangs when initiating shutdown or suspend.
Sometimes the desktop is still usable sometimes not.
It has reached the point where I just lock the computer unless i need to move it.
I've already come to the conclusion I'd have a easier to replacing it with OpenRC than making this shit work my way.[/QUOTE]
Can't say I've ever seen that myself, got any logs or something that say what is actually happening?
[QUOTE=wingless;52116605]Can't say I've ever seen that myself, got any logs or something that say what is actually happening?[/QUOTE]
Don't think so, And I'm not exactly in the mood of provoking it since last time I tried triggering it nothing happened, but every time I think it's just a rare fluke that's not gonna happen again it comes right back.
It's like it's taunting me.
Guess I'm forever stuck on windows 7 for something remotely dependable, atleast I know how to handle the funny moments it has compared to anything SystemD related.
Posting from an iBook G4 I just acquired. I think I'll end up using this for the occasions where I need a disc drive, the ability to read ext formatted drives, and when I need to digitize DV through the firewire port.
The fact that there's no multitouch drives me insane.
[QUOTE=Warship;52116892]Posting from an iBook G4 I just acquired. I think I'll end up using this for the occasions where I need a disc drive, the ability to read ext formatted drives, and when I need to digitize DV through the firewire port.
The fact that there's no multitouch drives me insane.[/QUOTE]
Does it have the strange tilting ball game? That means it has [I]never[/I] seen a clean install of MacOS.
It's running a clean install of 10.5 Leopard, but I remember playing that game on my G4 Cube...
[QUOTE=tratzzz;52115724]IMO the cyrillic keyboard makes like no sense at all. The buttons don't even line up phonetically - it is a completely new design. Takes quite a while to get used to it.[/QUOTE]
it takes me around 1-2 mins to type a sentence in russian, and i do this like very very rarely
Oh fuck systemd-journald is using 0.3% of my RAM what ever will I do. Halt the presses time to swap to init and cryptic bash scripts.
Long has humanity searched for the best Discord role color.
I believe I have found it.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Mhnaxzf.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;52115430]I bet this kid also loves to partake in the Mac vs PC internet arguments[/QUOTE]
Mac's are the best, duh.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;52117578]tell me your secrets[/QUOTE]
Short version: Ctrl+Shift+I, search all files for handleColorChange, set breakpoint on appropriate function, change color, copy role object to global scope (var globalRole = this;), remove breakpoint and continue, paste in a hslToRgb() implementation, write a function that cycles color with hslToRgb(i, 1.0, 0.5) and globalRole.handleUpdateRole() (with appropriate conversions), window.setInterval(changeColor, 30), watch everyone on an Android/potato yell at you to turn that shit off.
Or write a bot that does the same.
[QUOTE=EddieLTU;52117091]it takes me around 1-2 mins to type a sentence in russian, and i do this like very very rarely[/QUOTE]
I used it on my phone during russian lessons to use Google Translate instead of a dictionary. Autocorrect helped me a lot too, but even that failed me quite a few times. Paper dictionary was the most foolproof one.
Whole sentences were pretty much a mix between the phonetic words in latin alphabet and cyrillc from Google Translate for when we had to put a script together for our class video.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;52117687]can you do it without privileges or does it check serverside?
ill try it on my server anyway brb[/QUOTE]
You need role change privileges obviously.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;52117625], watch everyone on an Android/potato yell at you to turn that shit off.
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I'm surprised the API isn't rate limited
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52116224][t]https://horobox.co.uk/u/Uscjiv.png[/t]
I had no idea we needed an Adobe edition.[/QUOTE]
It needs more RAM
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;52118618]I've noticed my SATA to USB thing sent a 5v signal to the cable if connected to a power supply so I've rewired my thing, 3D printed some parts and used a high amp power supply and now my home server is super elegant and has a 500GB partition to spare under a single cable
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I recommended finding any spare LiPo you can and hooking it up. Myself and others found after long periods of time without a battery the CHIP would just randomly reboot.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;52118687]A LiPo battery would probably cost more than buying a SBC that isn't shit.
Also why LiPo instead of LiIon?[/QUOTE]
Cuz most people have an old phone with a battery they can rip out and use and also I know the charging circuit works with LiPos but I dunno about Li-ons.
Indeo or Cinepak.
Which do you think will perform better on the CPU range of the 486DX-66 to the P1-166?
Does anyone remember the bitrate of skype audio calls?
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52118945]It's variable.
Uses SILK.
iirc it's anywhere between 5-20kbps[/QUOTE]
I should have expected this but I didn't
[t]https://tenryuu.blob.core.windows.net/astrid/17-04-18_14-42-33-SILK_-_Bing_-_Waterfox.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;52118983]why is your avatar tiny again kiwi
(not that im complaining, thank god for that)[/QUOTE]
the gods of 2 have made it so
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