[QUOTE=LennyPenny;52169681]Well there's very little use for it atm but you should def do it.
The faster we adopt it the better[/QUOTE]
It can also add some redundancy, the local Ipv4 dhcp comcast server decides to shit it self once in a blue moon when I need a lease, so I just browse like the 10 websites that use Ipv6 while I wait for it to go back up :v:
What gaming on a 96 thread workstation looks like:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/eYgOYre.png[/img]
Why is your memory so low?
[QUOTE=Kiwi;52171828]Question is.
Will CSGO even use all of those threads?[/QUOTE]
Implying volvo knows how to make games that can run on more than 1 thread
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;52171862]Implying volvo knows how to make games that can run on more than 1 thread[/QUOTE]
Two at maximum
Just for curiosity, what do you guys end up doing with dead / artifacting video cards? I've got a dead one sitting here out of a pair I got off a mate for free.
snip solved
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;52171273]the adventures of my network project continue: we have static IPs assigned to us in the networking room, but that makes it difficult to work on it elsewhere because we're assigned 172.x.x.x, but my house uses class A. so my solution is to have a second pfsense box that sits in front of my project router and lets me continue to use my static IP while NATing it out
i'm a pro networking specialist[/QUOTE]
What do you mean your house uses class A? Do you mean you are using the private address space 10.0.0.0/8? This is the optimal situation, because your house using the same network as your school network would make routing difficult to impossible.
[QUOTE=Dr Ninkeo;52172002]Just for curiosity, what do you guys end up doing with dead / artifacting video cards? I've got a dead one sitting here out of a pair I got off a mate for free.[/QUOTE]
Not stick it in an oven.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Ltkmvwy.png[/t]
Performance from a decent video card in 2009 is exceeded by laptop integrated graphics in 2016. Amazing.
Now, cannot wait to see how the Ryzen laptop processors will do it even better. I do not think I will be needing a "gaming laptop" ever again...
Once my GPU died and I had to roll with my HD Graphics on my old i5-2500k until my next paycheck. I ended up playing a lot of older and smaller indie games. Minecraft still ran a treat with everything turned up, but stuttered a little bit more than usual. It certainly works if you set your expectations accordingly.
[QUOTE=daigennki;52172329][t]http://i.imgur.com/Ltkmvwy.png[/t]
Performance from a decent video card in 2009 is exceeded by laptop integrated graphics in 2016. Amazing.
Now, cannot wait to see how the Ryzen laptop processors will do it even better. I do not think I will be needing a "gaming laptop" ever again...[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't exactly say the GTS 250 was a decent card in 2009, but still, it's great how far iGPUs have come.
Yeah, if all you want to do is play old games or indie ones, Intel HD / AMD APU are perfect
[QUOTE=daigennki;52172329][t]http://i.imgur.com/Ltkmvwy.png[/t]
Performance from a decent video card in 2009 is exceeded by laptop integrated graphics in 2016. Amazing.
Now, cannot wait to see how the Ryzen laptop processors will do it even better. I do not think I will be needing a "gaming laptop" ever again...[/QUOTE]
I like to think this means there is really no longer a reason to have a GPU in your desktop if the iGPU is good enough, unless you want to run more demanding games or run any applications that would greatly benefit from a better GPU. Other users who do office word processing, watch YouTube videos or listen to music would do fine anyways.
On the other side, younger me would have been like "DAD, WE MUST GET A GPU, IT RUNS VIDEOS BETTER". Let's just say, the home PC build has a budget i5 that didn't have an iGPU, it had a fucking 210. It was terrible but it was something.
[QUOTE=garychencool;52172858]I like to think this means there is really no longer a reason to have a GPU in your desktop if the iGPU is good enough, unless you want to run more demanding games or run any applications that would greatly benefit from a better GPU. Other users who do office word processing, watch YouTube videos or listen to music would do fine anyways.
On the other side, younger me would have been like "DAD, WE MUST GET A GPU, IT RUNS VIDEOS BETTER". Let's just say, the home PC build has a budget i5 that didn't have an iGPU, it had a fucking 210. It was terrible but it was something.[/QUOTE]
maybe a mini desktop but an ATX mid tower or bigger with no GPU just seems wasteful
Also this is why I really really like the idea of Iris Pro and I wish it would show up in Windows laptops as well. An iGPU that can compete with mid-tier dedicated mobile GPUs? Yes please
I just need to get a 2016 MacBook Pro really
Girlfriend's parent's machine had some old ass pentium core 2 duo something or other that needed [I]some[/I] form of not integrated graphics. Soooo I stuck one of the two lower end quadro cards I ended up with in it.
Best choice? Probs not, but its something.
So, it finally happened. A public critical ME vuln hit. This is the big one.
[url]https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00075&languageid=en-fr[/url]
Tl;dr privilege escalation in remote AMT/ISM/SBT control. Local privilege escalation to enable remote features.
It affects every generation of Intel shit since Nehalem to Kaby Lake. And the only real fix is a firmware patch. Which is realistically only going to happen to Skylake and Kaby Lake generation shit because vendors aren't going to care about the rest.
The best part is, is since it can be done locally from within system it's an opening to a whole slew of new attacks from the ME, without even having AMT/ISM/SBT. Only a matter of time before those get worked out.
"This vulnerability does not exist on Intel-based consumer PCs."
It's almost like keeping back doors secured through obscurity is a [i]bad idea[/i]
[editline]1st May 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;52173639]"This vulnerability does not exist on Intel-based consumer PCs."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, only every server made in the past 10 years
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;52173639]"This vulnerability does not exist on Intel-based consumer PCs."[/QUOTE]
For now. AMT is still present in machines that don't have it explicitly enabled. It's just locked off. Code is still there, code still runs. How long until that is broken?
[editline]2nd May 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;52173640]It's almost like keeping back doors secured through obscurity is a [i]bad idea[/i]
[editline]1st May 2017[/editline]
Yeah, only every server made in the past 10 years[/QUOTE]
and business-oriented machine such as Thinkpads and the like.
[editline]2nd May 2017[/editline]
AMD has been kind of given a golden goose with this one. If they open source the PSP and then point out that this happened to Intel, they have the business-oriented marketing chance of a lifetime, fallen right into their lap.
[QUOTE=wingless;52173665]AMD has been kind of given a golden goose with this one. If they open source the PSP and then point out that this happened to Intel, they have the business-oriented marketing chance of a lifetime, fallen right into their lap.[/QUOTE]
I'm not 100% positive AMD could take advantage of a business opportunity even if it did fall right into their lap.
[QUOTE=Levelog;52173723]I'm not 100% positive AMD could take advantage of a business opportunity even if it did fall right into their lap.[/QUOTE]
That's my concern, heh. But seriously, this vulnerability has existed for almost 10 years now, the real question now is how long has it been weaponised and who by?
My desktop died 2 days ago and it's been hell trying to diagnose it. I keep trying everything and my computer hasn't even been giving me beep codes.
Then I found out that my GA-Z170XP-SLI doesn't even come with an internal PC speaker. :v:
What kind of bullshit is that
[QUOTE=TrafficMan;52173640]
Yeah, only every server made in the past 10 years[/QUOTE]
Intel server chipsets don't use AMT. Server boards always use a dedicated BMC chip and use the IPMI protocol for remote management.
Only Core processors supporting vPro (and only when used in motherboards using Q series chipsets) are affected.
[QUOTE=wingless;52173665]For now. AMT is still present in machines that don't have it explicitly enabled. It's just locked off. Code is still there, code still runs. How long until that is broken?[/QUOTE]
I need you to cite this. The Q series chipsets have additional hardware needed to support AMT that's not present in other consumer chipsets. Therefore, inactive AMT code can't really do much even if it is present in the ME firmware for other chipsets.
[QUOTE=wingless;52173665]
AMD has been kind of given a golden goose with this one. If they open source the PSP and then point out that this happened to Intel, they have the business-oriented marketing chance of a lifetime, fallen right into their lap.[/QUOTE]
ME/PSP will never be open sourced, because it provides a lot of support backbones for the CPU and chipset. Most of these ties strongly to the internal designs of the system architecture, and thus it's considered trade secret. This is why you'll also never hear in detail on what ME/PSP does, other than "providing security and integrity to the system".
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;52173844]Intel server chipsets don't use AMT. Server boards always use a dedicated BMC chip and use the IPMI protocol for remote management.
Only Core processors supporting vPro (and only when used in motherboards using Q series chipsets) are affected.
[/quote]
Uh, yes it absolutely does. Example: [url]http://ark.intel.com/products/63987/Intel-C608-Chipset[/url]
Note vPro is marked as yes. This is true for all server 2011-3 chipsets.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;52173844]I need you to cite this. The Q series chipsets have additional hardware needed to support AMT that's not present in other consumer chipsets. Therefore, inactive AMT code can't really do much even if it is present in the ME firmware for other chipsets.[/quote]
The only thing else the ME needs to run is access to the NIC. Which every Intel NIC is compatible with all the way back to [url=https://ark.intel.com/products/26550/Intel-82573E-Gigabit-Ethernet-Controller]2005 where the ME started[/url]. Intel did this for vendor selection purposes, standard engineering decision. There is no extra hardware. It's all software and NIC. You can get this information alone off the AMT wikipedia page.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;52173844]ME/PSP will never be open sourced, because it provides a lot of support backbones for the CPU and chipset. Most of these ties strongly to the internal designs of the system architecture, and thus it's considered trade secret. This is why you'll also never hear in detail on what ME/PSP does, other than "providing security and integrity to the system".[/QUOTE]
Except we do know. There was a book on it. [url]http://www.apress.com/us/book/9781430265719[/url]
Read it. It is the closest thing to a bible on the ME. We've also had people work on reverse engineering efforts (Hence why we've had [url=https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner]me_cleaner[/url] exist) including such things like leaked documentation thanks to vendors not locking their shit down.
Dated but very well done example: [url]https://www.slideshare.net/codeblue_jp/igor-skochinsky-enpub[/url]
You're also kinda ignoring the fact here that Intel basically fucked in the ass every business customer that bought any intel-cpu business oriented machine made in the last 9 years. This is kinda huge. Gods only knows what more will come from this.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;52171818]What gaming on a 96 thread workstation looks like:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/eYgOYre.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Ever since I began messing with Blender which has like 99% thread scaling. I want to get that future like 16core Ryzen, even if clocked low.
[editline]1st May 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Humin;52174181][t]http://i.imgur.com/GnI3MIS.jpg[/t]
ɐǝsʇɥǝʇıɔ[/QUOTE]
Looks like my bicuspids when I found out I has grinding my teeth at night.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;52174199]Ever since I began messing with Blender which has like 99% thread scaling[/QUOTE]
how's that compare to using cuda on, say, a 1070 tho
[QUOTE=wingless;52173603]So, it finally happened. A public critical ME vuln hit. This is the big one.
[url]https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00075&languageid=en-fr[/url]
Tl;dr privilege escalation in remote AMT/ISM/SBT control. Local privilege escalation to enable remote features.
It affects every generation of Intel shit since Nehalem to Kaby Lake. And the only real fix is a firmware patch. Which is realistically only going to happen to Skylake and Kaby Lake generation shit because vendors aren't going to care about the rest.
The best part is, is since it can be done locally from within system it's an opening to a whole slew of new attacks from the ME, without even having AMT/ISM/SBT. Only a matter of time before those get worked out.[/QUOTE]
The news on this broke literally at the same time as I was getting my coreboot toolchain compiling, with the intention of running me_cleaner on the Intel ME firmware.
It's just an option in the coreboot config nowadays, you don't need to run me_cleaner yourself. You just give it a ROM of your current BIOS and done.
[url]https://www.amazon.com/Security-Reorder-1280TVL-Outdoor-Detection/dp/B00L3W2QJ2[/url]
[img]https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-seller-content-images-us-east-1/ATVPDKIKX0DER/APPUUQRP675PG/B00L3W2QJ2/c9AhGX61RGE._UX970_TTW__.jpg[/img]
This is the main photo to advertise the kit. Someone was actually paid to do this.
Lets name off all the photoshop crimes.
[url=http://mondodesign.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Porticato-Moderno-04.jpg]This is the original photo, by the way.[/url]
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