• CIPWTTKT&GC V43 - WHERE IS MY THINKPAD?
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[QUOTE=pentium;52198774]I still think Type C is half the size it should be. It's a phone connector trying to say it is a general purpose replacement.[/QUOTE] ignoring the whole form factor thing it literally is the most general purpose plug in existence it can do pretty much anything you could ever want to connect two devices for
Just ordered some stuff for my X220. A 9-cell battery, a Bluetooth 4.0 daughter card from an X230, and a WWAN module that's been pulled out of an X220 located in Portugal (Ericsson F5521GW). Also previously ordered an ExpressCard dual port USB 3.0 card that uses a chipset supported on Linux. After I get all that installed, and I have coreboot flashed, I think I'm pretty much set. Although, there's always that dock, and the slice battery... I don't need a dock though. Don't have space for it anywhere either.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;52199035]ignoring the whole form factor thing it literally is the most general purpose plug in existence it can do pretty much anything you could ever want to connect two devices for[/QUOTE] Some of those things require special alternate modes. It's going to be confusing if it reaches mass-market adoption while some alt modes are not universal. I can already imagine trying to walk Uncle Bob through plugging his laptop into a TV - "No, you need to plug it into the USB port that also supports DisplayPort alternate mode, unless the TV is wanting HDMI instead. Yes, you still need a separate USB cable plugged in to charge it. Probably. How much current does it draw?" The simple fact that you can have USB (protocol) over DisplayPort (protocol) over USB (cable) is kind of a sign of how messy it can get.
A slice battery in addition to a 9 cell seems excessive unless you know you're going somewhere where you won't be able to charge for a long time :v: Plus it blocks all the air vents on the bottom.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52199294]A slice battery in addition to a 9 cell seems excessive unless you know you're going somewhere where you won't be able to charge for a long time :v: Plus it blocks all the air vents on the bottom.[/QUOTE] The slice battery with the 9-cell is awesome though. I can get so much runtime...
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52198843]There's no good reason for it being larger than C already is. It feels more robust than A to me, and it's certainly a massive step up from micro as well. It'd also be nice to consolidate all of our USB connections into a single port since there's no reason for the fucking mess of ports we currently have.[/QUOTE] I have memories about how many broken MicroUSB plugs I've had to deal with. I simply do not trust it. Sure the cell phone and thin laptops are always the cited use and advantage of the size but I look at some 16tb external disk box with this shitty little connector and have trouble coming to terms that given the purpose that shitty connector was the only thing the best minds of our time could think of was a fantastic idea for a new unidirectional connector. Seriously though. Fucking make it (roughly) the same size as the mac mini power plug and I will take it a little more seriously. At least that I know can take a legit beating. [img]http://www.rainydaymagazine.com/RDM2006/RainyDayGarage/PowerBrick/MacMiniPlug.jpg[/img] Not....this little fucking excuse for a high performance data interconnect. [img]http://cdn5.thinkcomputers.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/DSC04428.jpg[/img] mumblemumblemumble.
[QUOTE=pentium;52199366]I have memories about how many broken MicroUSB plugs I've had to deal with. I simply do not trust it. Sure the cell phone and thin laptops are always the cited use and advantage of the size but I look at some 16tb external disk box with this shitty little connector and have trouble coming to terms that given the purpose that shitty connector was the only thing the best minds of our time could think of was a fantastic idea. Seriously though. Fucking make it (roughly) the same size as the mac mini power plug and I will take it a little more seriously. At least that I know can take a legit beating. Not....this little fucking excuse for a high performance data interconnect.[/QUOTE] I'm sure, back in the day, there were people bitching about USB-A being too small and weak, compared to serial and parallel ports. Same for SCSI/IDE to SATA, or DVI/VGA to HDMI/DisplayPort. And yet all of those work fine. Turns out the people designing standards [I]generally[/I] know what they're doing (although there are exceptions). Small ports can be durable, maybe more so than larger ones. You'd get less of a lever effect, for one. And I suspect there's some square-cube law benefits but I'm too busy to try to figure out how that works.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;52199405]I'm sure, back in the day, there were people bitching about USB-A being too small and weak, compared to serial and parallel ports. Same for SCSI/IDE to SATA, or DVI/VGA to HDMI/DisplayPort. And yet all of those work fine. Turns out the people designing standards [I]generally[/I] know what they're doing (although there are exceptions). Small ports can be durable, maybe more so than larger ones. You'd get less of a lever effect, for one. And I suspect there's some square-cube law benefits but I'm too busy to try to figure out how that works.[/QUOTE] Thing is, I hate MicroUSB more than anyone else, probably. USB-C has fixed every single issue I've ever had with Micro. It is ridiculously durable for what it is, this is due to mandated materials and a really strong structure, far more than Micro ever was. It's just about one of the best designed friction-fit ports around.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;52199405]I'm sure, back in the day, there were people bitching about USB-A being too small and weak, compared to serial and parallel ports. Same for SCSI/IDE to SATA, or DVI/VGA to HDMI/DisplayPort.[/QUOTE] I actually cannot find anything that can back that up, given how USB was the first serious hotplug and play interface to make an impact on the market. Everything before that you at the least plugged in, tightened the thumbscrews and needed to reboot. It's hard to complain about the interface when there was nobody else* offering a competing product AND were seeing attention by both Apple and Microsoft in terms of support out of the box. *ACCESS.BUS does not count as it barely left prototyping.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52198761]We SHOULD transition to it eventually since it's a better port than micro and A, so I'm glad Apple did it since they're pretty much the only company that could get away with it :v:[/QUOTE] As a host port I feel like USB C is far too small. Wish it was as large as A. I got a few Type C devices and it seems so small like I could snap it off. Edit: Yall can disagree and thats fine. But I'm 90% a desktop user and USB Type C is like a fucking pinhole to try and plug in under my desk.
I think USB-C is a fantastic connector for mobile devices. Desktop use feels a little clunky though, especially with how small it is. But hey, it's nice that a Thunderbolt-3 port is also DisplayPort and USB without the use of adapters.
[QUOTE=wingless;52199412]Thing is, I hate MicroUSB more than anyone else, probably. USB-C has fixed every single issue I've ever had with Micro. It is ridiculously durable for what it is, this is due to mandated materials and a really strong structure, far more than Micro ever was. It's just about one of the best designed friction-fit ports around.[/QUOTE] I can plug in a USB C cable to my Axon 7 and the tension of the connector can withstand the entire weight of the phone and let it dangle even after hundreds of uses. :v: I don't think Mini or Micro could ever do that, unless the cable was brand spanken new.
I can understand and agree with your hatred for Micro USB Pentium but I assure you Type C is a better connector in every single aspect. In particular it feels [B]way[/B] sturdier and more robust as a connector. [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Demache;52199716]I can plug in a USB C cable to my Axon 7 and the tension of the connector can withstand the entire weight of the phone and let it dangle even after hundreds of uses. :v: I don't think Mini or Micro could ever do that, unless the cable was brand spanken new.[/QUOTE] Not to mention there are no hooks on the Type C connector to wear down in the first place unlike micro. [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Brt5470;52199444]As a host port I feel like USB C is far too small. Wish it was as large as A. I got a few Type C devices and it seems so small like I could snap it off. Edit: Yall can disagree and thats fine. But I'm 90% a desktop user and USB Type C is like a fucking pinhole to try and plug in under my desk.[/QUOTE] That's true but consider that unlike A it is reversible, which is a big advantage over 4th dimensional A cables.
today i learned AMD Radeon drivers won't install without an internet connection fucking internet of shit
Build quality varies for sure but the USB-C cable I got with my Nexus 5x has loosened worse than any cable I've had ever, and falls out if you look at it wrong.
[QUOTE=meppers;52199741]today i learned AMD Radeon drivers won't install without an internet connection fucking internet of shit[/QUOTE] I don't have a Radeon card so I may be mistaken, but are you sure you're not just using a web installer? Perhaps they had a full package available for download for an offline install?
We could always go back to BUS/TAG. [t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/IBM_360_Bus_Tag_Cables.png[/t]
[QUOTE=Xanadu;52199744]Build quality varies for sure but the USB-C cable I got with my Nexus 5x has loosened worse than any cable I've had ever, and falls out if you look at it wrong.[/QUOTE] Huh, that's a shame, and surprising for one that came with a Nexus. I've got a Monoprice one that is still going strong after nearly a year. Also, I live within easy driving distance of the main Monoprice warehouse, so I can get free replacements at no cost to me :^) they'll even ship the replacement to my house for free, or I can just pick it up right then and there at the store if they have some available. That was a frickin life saver back when I was chewing through micro cables at a rate of one every two or three months
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;52199748]I don't have a Radeon card so I may be mistaken, but are you sure you're not just using a web installer? Perhaps they had a full package available for download for an offline install?[/QUOTE] i have everything offline. it noticed that it was more than 2 versions older than the newest driver so it auto downloaded a newer version that I know is giving me issues. I unplugged my ethernet cable and launched it again only to be greeted with "you need to be connected to the internet to install this" [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=meppers;52199741]today i learned AMD Radeon drivers won't install without an internet connection fucking internet of shit[/QUOTE] i'm a dumbass. it was a driver downloader utility and I thought it's cache was a [B]manually [/B]downloaded driver [editline]7th May 2017[/editline] I should clarify that the driver downloader utility and driver installer use the same GUI
I just set up my new Dell U2415 UltraSharp display.. as expected it puts my Asus VEH247 panels to shame. The colour differences is just staggering. I'm running 2 1080p and 1 1200p display. THREE. FRIGGING. WIDE SCREEN DISPLAYS. This is literally heaven right now.
Speaking of Dell monitors, anyone here have any experiences with the u2515H? Thinking about picking up a pair of them for my workstation
[QUOTE=Levelog;52200177]Speaking of Dell monitors, anyone here have any experiences with the u2515H? Thinking about picking up a pair of them for my workstation[/QUOTE] Highly recommend. Gorgeous panels and the lack of bezel is just beautiful. Good amount of inputs too, plus made for DP MST chaining so nice clean cables. Nice to have a USB 3 hub with a decent amount of ports. Really it's just damned nice. Oh, plus the stand does everything you'd want it to while still letting you do VESA mounting if you want. Fantastic value for money, honestly.
I'll probably be grabbing a docking station and a new latitude for my linux box soon so I can swap between my workstation and my work laptop on it so DP chaining would be nice.
[QUOTE=Levelog;52200189]I'll probably be grabbing a docking station and a new latitude for my linux box soon so I can swap between my workstation and my work laptop on it so DP chaining would be nice.[/QUOTE] I use it on U2414H's but the only difference between that and the U2515H is the panel and size, which I have used and it is equally as gorgeous as the 24. I do DP chaining on my with them on my Thinkpad dock and desktop and it's just glorious. Honestly just all around one of the most satisfyingly high quality tech products I've ever bought. It's just... really, really good. It meets every mark I've ever wanted it to, I've never had a single complaint.
So I got the U2415 because my other displays were 24 inch, however the resolution and aspect ratio is different so I'm tempted to either replace my other Asus displays with more Dell U2415s, or get the U2515H to get 1440p, 16:9 aspect ratio instead of 16:10 and slightly larger displays. But before then, I'm gonna need a new table. I somehow crammed that many displays on this little 20 year old work desk. I don't think I'll be able to put 3 25-inch displays on it.
[QUOTE=wingless;52200198]I use it on U2414H's but the only difference between that and the U2515H is the panel and size, which I have used and it is equally as gorgeous as the 24. I do DP chaining on my with them on my Thinkpad dock and desktop and it's just glorious. Honestly just all around one of the most satisfyingly high quality tech products I've ever bought. It's just... really, really good. It meets every mark I've ever wanted it to, I've never had a single complaint.[/QUOTE] Hmm, that's really temping. Right now I have 2 older Dell IPS ultrasharps for my workstation. Can't quite remember the models but they're both H models, ones 1080p and the other 1200p in portrait. But I'm considering replacing them with those.
I'd personally send that U2415 back and get a U2414H instead; the 16:10 isn't worth the significantly higher IPS glow. (In fact, that's what I did. Bought both and compared.) Then again, I guess there are people who don't care about that, and who knows, maybe they've changed the panels since.
Dell monitors are fuckin nice, I swear if I ever have to ditch these monitors, I'm keeping the stands and adapting them to VESA, they're perfect Got a U2410 years back, added a U2412M since I wanted a basically identical monitor The 10 has so many fucking inputs [img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-N4XQEriMC_w/WRBntNw2ZOI/AAAAAAAAQd8/er4mQLpQM9ENGZ03OCqGVF9CGqBudC-CQCHM/s0/2017-05-08_22-42-26.png[/img] [editline]8th May 2017[/editline] Only thing I hate about it is it takes forever for the backlight to warm up for some reason, the 12M is just instant on
Our home wireless router just died on us and it's not coming back. What would you guys recommend looking for in a wireless router? We're headed to Best Buy later today.
If you're heading to Best Buy they'll probably have a higher end ASUS AC router. I'd get that. They'll probably have AC1750's and AC1900's. Can't go wrong with either.
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