Because I do video editing in After Effects, do you guys think a 6700k would be more worth it to save the extra $100 for, or just go with the 6600k?
I guess if you want the hyperthreading potential that i7 has over i5, but there isn't that much of a major difference, even though I have the 6700k
[QUOTE=CorporalRoss;49077452]I guess if you want the hyperthreading potential that i7 has over i5, but there isn't that much of a major difference, even though I have the 6700k[/QUOTE]
On the topic of hyperthreading, what applications will actually utilize that? When cores are hyperthreaded, does it mean each logical core is weaker vs. when you turn hyperthreading off?
I'm curious because the two main CPU intensive things that I plan to do are video editing (I'm guessing this will make the best use of multiple cores, as I've read) and Minecraft server hosting (single core performance)
Basically video editing is the big one that properly uses hyperthreading, since I think how it works (I dont really video edit) is that multiple frames can be worked on by having multiple threads balance the work load instead of working one at a time like most games do.
I would assume maybe somebody like SirCrest or somebody that does heavy video editing can explain it better.
[editline]8th November 2015[/editline]
Because other than hyperthreading, stock clock speeds are vastly difference but once unlocked, they get similar overclocked speeds from what I seen in benchmarks online with the i7 maybe pushing a tiny bit more.
My main concern in editing is actually the performance of scrubbing through the video. My current rig makes scrubbing a total pain in the ass. Render times I'm not too terribly concerned about.
[editline]8th November 2015[/editline]
Actually yeah it sounds like the i5 will be my best cost effective option. I guess my extra $100 won't be going that far with the i7.
[QUOTE=Toro;49076973]My friends scrapping his PC and is thinking of giving me his MSI GTX 970 100ME, I believe I have an EVGA Windforce GTX 970, so my question is can I SLI them? and if so is it worth it, or will it just cause tons of issues down the line?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Well, EVGA makes the ACX cooler, Gigabyte makes the Windforce, but whichever you have it'll work just fine.
Running a 950SCC on a 350 watt power supply will be ok right? It will be playing Gta V. I know the minimum is 350 so I need to know if I should get a higher power supply. It currently has a 750ti running on it and it runs amazing. The power supply is a Allieo SL-8360BTX. It's a prebuilt. Reposting just to make sure ill be ok.
I think I'm long overdue for an upgrade on this 5 year old rig. But I have no sense of direction or what would be a good bang for my buck. I have $300 to spend on this, does anybody have any opinions?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/vRA0ZcZ.png[/img]
[QUOTE=slashsnemesis;49078494]I think I'm long overdue for an upgrade on this 5 year old rig. But I have no sense of direction or what would be a good bang for my buck. I have $300 to spend on this, does anybody have any opinions?[/QUOTE]
for gaming? consider swapping out that card for an r9 380, if you can stretch a few more bucks for a gtx 970, even better. your cpu could use an upgrade down the road but should keep your system kicking for the next year or so. (that will also include a motherboard upgrade.)
[QUOTE=Toro;49076973]My friends scrapping his PC and is thinking of giving me his MSI GTX 970 100ME, I believe I have a Gigabyte Windforce GTX 970, so my question is can I SLI them? and if so is it worth it, or will it just cause tons of issues down the line?[/QUOTE]
make sure your PSU can handle 2 970s and that your motherboard supports it
[QUOTE=ief014;49078988]for gaming? consider swapping out that card for an r9 380, if you can stretch a few more bucks for a gtx 970, even better. your cpu could use an upgrade down the road but should keep your system kicking for the next year or so. (that will also include a motherboard upgrade.)[/QUOTE]
Yes, for gaming. I'm worried that whatever I order will be incompatible with my system for whatever reason, would switching from an amd gpu to an nvidia gpu cause problems? Will my 400w power supply be enough for the gtx 970? What steps can I take to ensure that I'll be able to swap it out no problem?
Will an i5 6600k (LGA1151) work on a msi b85-g41 (LGA1150) motherboard?
[QUOTE=Niven;49079478]Will an i5 6600k (LGA1151) work on a msi b85-g41 (LGA1150) motherboard?[/QUOTE]
no, if it doesn't match the socket number it a no go.
So I've been planning to build a new PC this month, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which GFX cards I really want. I'm getting the HTC Vive when it comes out, so probably a 970 or the AMD equivalent, but I also want a (cheaper) secondary GFX card to set up KVM passthrough. Plus, I have no idea what PSU to get.
I use Linux, so the first thing is to decide whether I should get AMD or not. I've been hearing good things about them lately (and bad things about Nvidia), but as far as I know their Linux drivers were pretty bad. That might be a thing of the past though.
Secondly, since it'll take a while since Linux is truly mainstream for gaming, I want to set up a VM with Windows to play games, so I should get a second card for that. I don't want to spend too much on that though, about $150. I have no problems with this one being AMD since it'll pretty much be used for Windows only.
Aside from graphics, I'm a programmer and I'll most likely focus on VR game development soon, and I'm willing to spend quite some money on getting things to run fast, so I figured an i7 would be worth getting.
I currently have a Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB and a Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 (2TB) which should be fine, so I don't think I need additional storage (for now at least).
Here's what I have so far, the only things missing are GFX cards and PSU. In terms of a budget, I'd like to stay somewhat close to €1.250. €1.500 would probably be my limit.
[url=http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/7V9hQ7]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/7V9hQ7/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]
[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k]Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (€385.79 @ Mindfactory)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2]Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] (€35.69 @ Amazon Deutschland)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z170a]Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] (€139.85 @ Mindfactory)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2a2666c16]Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory[/url] (€104.94 @ Mindfactory)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-cah442wm1]NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (€131.45 @ Mindfactory)
[b]Total:[/b] €797.72
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
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Also, I was thinking about getting an internal bluetooth card since I ordered a bluetooth keyboard which I might use with my desktop occasionally. Are there any good ones available for $20-$30? Of course, Linux compatibility is a must.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;49080650]the nvidia cards have been real funky with nouveau(who uses that shit anyway lmfao)
my 750 ti actually causes all linux usb live sessions to crash
9XX have been the same story
so if you're honestly okay with SSHing or you don't mind using integrated graphics to install your distro and get nvidia drivers working, nvidia is pretty solid so any nvidia gpu is great, 970 would probably be ideal if you want to go the nvidia route
amd whilst I don't have any recent amd gpus i don't see why it should be an issue
but i don't have a 290 or a 390 lying around and both of those cards destroy the 970 in every way possible[/QUOTE]
I'm currently running Arch Linux with a 750 Ti for close to a year (and a 560 Ti before that) and I'm not really having any big issues with it. It's AMD which I'm unsure about.
The official AMD driver is picky about Xorg and Kernel versions which can be a problem, It might require some messing about with it but it'll run.
The open source one is pretty good too, performance is pretty much on par, and it supports everything except Crossfire.
Both Nvidia and AMD will work, but you should buy an nvidia because nvidia has 2-3x opengl driver performance, which is probably as what you want when you're aiming for vr on linux.
[url]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdnv-phoronix-11&num=1[/url]
[QUOTE=mark6789;49078089]Running a 950SCC on a 350 watt power supply will be ok right? It will be playing Gta V. I know the minimum is 350 so I need to know if I should get a higher power supply. It currently has a 750ti running on it and it runs amazing. The power supply is a Allieo SL-8360BTX. It's a prebuilt. Reposting just to make sure ill be ok.[/QUOTE]
If the PSU would be any good yes.
But it probably isnt.
[URL="http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html"]http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html[/URL]
Pre-build unknow brand psu's are almost never good.
You risk a high chance of it blowing up and taking your components with it. And even if it doesnt blow up, it lowers the life expectancy of everything connected due to horrible ripple currents that are present on cheap psu's. Change that thing out now.
[editline]9th November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Darkwater124;49080624]So I've been planning to build a new PC this month, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which GFX cards I really want. I'm getting the HTC Vive when it comes out,
.[/QUOTE]
Wouldnt a VR headset more delay when its source app is running in a VM?
About half a yera back, AMD card where predicted to be a bit better for VR. They have better performance at high resolutions and potentially have lower latency due to better DX12 asynchronous compute implementation.
It is all guessing until we get the actual reviews though.
[QUOTE=slashsnemesis;49078494]I think I'm long overdue for an upgrade on this 5 year old rig. But I have no sense of direction or what would be a good bang for my buck. I have $300 to spend on this, does anybody have any opinions?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/vRA0ZcZ.png[/img][/QUOTE]
i'd say grab a 2500k and overclock it, then buy a 1tb drive, or an SSD (maybe both?), and save the rest for a new gpu
you're playing at 1600x900, so a lot of cards today will be pretty overkill for you
what is your psu?
So I purchased everything in this build.
[url]http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/9w7Ycf/penetrator-z1-s-ultimate-1200-gaming-pc[/url]
This is my first attempt at putting together a PC. I was wondering with this build would I be missing out pretty bad if I don't take advantage of the overclocking or should I take the time to educate myself on overclocking it. It looks as though there are some parts in there to "provide overclocking room". Forgive my ignorance.
I also bought Silver 5 Thermal Paste, because I wasn't sure if I needed it. Then I read the reviews and it seems like they scrape off the generic stuff on the liquid cooler and put the Silver 5 on it so I'm not sure where I stand there.
I know there are plenty of guides on the Front page, however if anyone would like to throw any first time building tips it would be greatly appreciated it. I don't want to bottleneck or screw up my first build. Especially since it was 1400.
[QUOTE=Zaex;49082289]So I purchased everything in this build.
[url]http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/9w7Ycf/penetrator-z1-s-ultimate-1200-gaming-pc[/url]
This is my first attempt at putting together a PC. I was wondering with this build would I be missing out pretty bad if I don't take advantage of the overclocking or should I take the time to educate myself on overclocking it. It looks as though there are some parts in there to "provide overclocking room". Forgive my ignorance.
I also bought Silver 5 Thermal Paste, because I wasn't sure if I needed it. Then I read the reviews and it seems like they scrape off the generic stuff on the liquid cooler and put the Silver 5 on it so I'm not sure where I stand there.
I know there are plenty of guides on the Front page, however if anyone would like to throw any first time building tips it would be greatly appreciated it. I don't want to bottleneck or screw up my first build. Especially since it was 1400.[/QUOTE]
dont rush into an overclock, study first, then dick around. first time i rushed into it, i thought i bricked my board
take a coffee filter and rubbing alcohol to get the thermal compound off of the heatsink without leaving any residue
dont force the processor, it should slide into place
dont be afraid to push harder on the ram
install your OS onto your SSD
test all of your parts outside of the case first before you put them in
before you put them in, assuming they all function correctly, get everything you can put onto the motherboard (minus GPU, and AiO cooler)
dont forget to screw in the motherboard stand-offs
sometimes people have their PSU fan facing down, you may want to take advantage of that
make sure the fan on your cooler is facing the way you want it to face
with thermal compound, less is more
ground yourself before you start working with anything
once everything is installed (hardware wise) boot into your UEFI and make sure everything is being read correctly
install the I/O shield before you put in the motherboard
consult your motherboard/case booklet when you get to connecting your front panel headers
when your graphics drivers are up to date, boot into your UEFI and make sure your primary graphics adapter is PCIe and not on-board
be mindful of where you connect your monitor, whether it be your motherboard or gpu
keep anything magnetic away from you while building this computer
dont be afraid to touch PCBs
im sure others can add more onto this
[QUOTE=Slippery-Q;49082399]Useful Info[/QUOTE]
Appreciate it. Is there anyway I can test my cooler and what not is hooked up correctly prior to having the processor run? I don't want to set it up incorrectly and fry my processor.
And dumb question, but could you elaborate a bit more on testing parts outside case. You just mean build it on the motherboard first before putting it in or what?
[QUOTE=Zaex;49082438]Appreciate it. Is there anyway I can test my cooler and what not is hooked up correctly prior to having the processor run? I don't want to set it up incorrectly and fry my processor.
And dumb question, but could you elaborate a bit more on testing parts outside case. You just mean build it on the motherboard first before putting it in or what?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://allthemods.com/img/03/8425.jpg[/img]
you can turn your motherboard box into a poor man's test bench as shown in the image above
so yes, building the computer outside of the case, just to make sure everything is working correctly before you put it all in
as for the cooler, ngl, you should be completely safe without having to test it
if you're paranoid about it though, you should be able to attach the fan to the radiator, plug in both headers, and power on the computer to test it like that
Last and probably the dumbest question, but I'm not taking chances. As far as the CPU fan goes. Does it blow in the computer or exhaust out.
I was watching videos and they mount a fan on top of what seems to be the Corsair's H60 fan and some times its on one side sometimes the other and i'm not sure which direction it blows.
[QUOTE=Cold;49081362]The official AMD driver is picky about Xorg and Kernel versions which can be a problem, It might require some messing about with it but it'll run.
The open source one is pretty good too, performance is pretty much on par, and it supports everything except Crossfire.
Both Nvidia and AMD will work, but you should buy an nvidia because nvidia has 2-3x opengl driver performance, which is probably as what you want when you're aiming for vr on linux.
[url]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdnv-phoronix-11&num=1[/url][/QUOTE]
Guess I'll just get another Nvidia as main for now and hope AMD improves their Linux stuff soon.
Next issue: What version should I get? I have no clue what the differences between them are.
[editline]9th November 2015[/editline]
Also what AMD card to get for VM for around $150?
[QUOTE=Zaex;49082559]Last and probably the dumbest question, but I'm not taking chances. As far as the CPU fan goes. Does it blow in the computer or exhaust out.
I was watching videos and they mount a fan on top of what seems to be the Corsair's H60 fan and some times its on one side sometimes the other and i'm not sure which direction it blows.[/QUOTE]
just depends on which way you face the fan
[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1904852/corsair-h60-fan-face.html[/url]
there's a quick thread on it
[QUOTE=Slippery-Q;49081975]i'd say grab a 2500k and overclock it, then buy a 1tb drive, or an SSD (maybe both?), and save the rest for a new gpu
you're playing at 1600x900, so a lot of cards today will be pretty overkill for you
what is your psu?[/QUOTE]
Corsair CX500. I'm hesitant to overclock, worried about temp. Would the stock fan be enough to cool it?
Currently stuck between buying an XFX or an EVGA PSU. RMA'd my Corsair one for the second time and I'm getting a refund this time.
I'm kind of leaning towards the XFX, thoughts?
[url]http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-xfx-xxx-hybrid-modular-80plus-bronze-1x135mm-atx-v22-psu[/url]
[url]http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-evga-supernova-g2-fully-modular-80plus-gold-atx-power-supply-541a-single-plus12v-rail-140mm-dou[/url]
Should I upgrade Intel® Celeron® Processor E3200 (1M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 800 MHz FSB) to Intel® Core™ i5-6600 Skylake Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.90 GHz) ???
[QUOTE=Zaex;49082438]Appreciate it. Is there anyway I can test my cooler and what not is hooked up correctly prior to having the processor run? I don't want to set it up incorrectly and fry my processor.
And dumb question, but could you elaborate a bit more on testing parts outside case. You just mean build it on the motherboard first before putting it in or what?[/QUOTE]
I JUST got through dealing with an AIO CPU liquid cooler that was DOA, so it DOES happen (mine was a CoolerMaster Seidon 240m). First off, the ONLY way to truly tell if it's working is to monitor your temps, and use a program like CoreTemp to do this because I found out that some MOBOs (like my GIGABYTE G1 Sniper Z97) don't get their readings from the CPU itself, but from a sensor on the mobo near the CPU, meaning your cores could be at the thermal limit and it wouldn't know. Your AIO could be pumping, but bad thermal paste or contact could mean that your CPU will overheat. So if you want to be REALLY safe, then I have a few tips:
If your CPU comes with a stock air cooler, then use the stock air cooler to build and install everything. Once your computer is up and running, install something like CoreTemp and have it run on startup. Also, adjust any MOBO fan headers you may use for the AIO system (I use CPU fan for the pump and Sys Fan 1 for the rad fans) to full 100% power. Then shut it down, unplug it and let it sit so that the capacitors discharge, and replace the stock cooler with the AIO cooler, cleaning and re-applying thermal paste. This way, when you start up your computer, CoreTemp (or whatever you use) will start right up and show you how your temps are. If you see them higher than 40c and staying there or getting higher after install, you know you either installed it wrong or its DOA.
If you DONT have a stock air cooler, get one and follow the instructions above. Also, if your AIO ever goes out, you will have something to use while you're waiting on a new one.
But once again, this is for if you want to take every precaution.
[QUOTE=robinkooli;49083992]Should I upgrade Intel® Celeron® Processor E3200 (1M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 800 MHz FSB) to Intel® Core™ i5-6600 Skylake Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.90 GHz) ???[/QUOTE]
You'll definitely have to upgrade your motherboard and likely RAM too.
[editline]9th November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Adamhully;49083452]Currently stuck between buying an XFX or an EVGA PSU. RMA'd my Corsair one for the second time and I'm getting a refund this time.
I'm kind of leaning towards the XFX, thoughts?
[url]http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-xfx-xxx-hybrid-modular-80plus-bronze-1x135mm-atx-v22-psu[/url]
[url]http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-evga-supernova-g2-fully-modular-80plus-gold-atx-power-supply-541a-single-plus12v-rail-140mm-dou[/url][/QUOTE]
Pretty sure the XFX is a Seasonic S12ii model. Not quite as good as the Superflower Leadex but with the price difference I'd go for the XFX.
[editline]9th November 2015[/editline]
But the EVGA is fully modular so if you want that feature, go with the EVGA. It's also a bigger PSU, so if you have a tiny case I'd be careful. The G2/T2/P2 EVGA's are a bit longer than most.
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