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[QUOTE=Killuah;47643879]Guys I need quick help, here is th deal: Processor: Intel Core i7 5820K 6x 3,3Ghz (12 Threads) Mainboard: X99 Gigabyte Gaming 5 GFX: GTX 970 Palit (Bios geflasht auf die JetStream Version) RAM: 16GB DDR4 2133 Cruicial PSU: 600 Watt Straigt Power 10 Gold 80+ CPU-Cooler: Arctic Freeze i11 2011-3 Sockel Case: Corsair Carbide 200R 1200 $ Do it? [editline]2nd May 2015[/editline] no hdd, no ssd, i have those already [editline]2nd May 2015[/editline] need it quick[/QUOTE] I used to own that case, it's big, farily roomy, and gets dusty easily because of grill placement. Extra dust filters are a must if you have carpet!
Quick question, is there an i7 or Xeon that runs for about $240 that would be better than the i5 4690k that I'm going to get? I just want to get the best bang for my buck
[QUOTE=deathmog;47645795]Quick question, is there an i7 or Xeon that runs for about $240 that would be better than the i5 4690k that I'm going to get? I just want to get the best bang for my buck[/QUOTE] Is your primary concern gaming? Then no.
So I bought a [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UOYQ5LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]EVGA 960 from Amazon[/url]. On Newegg it comes with the Witcher 3. If Amazon gives me one, do I get a code or is it tied to an account? I don't want the game but I wanted to give it to a friend if I can.
[QUOTE=FullStreak12;47646338]So I bought a [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UOYQ5LA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]EVGA 960 from Amazon[/url]. On Newegg it comes with the Witcher 3. If Amazon gives me one, do I get a code or is it tied to an account? I don't want the game but I wanted to give it to a friend if I can.[/QUOTE] You get a code that you put through Nvidia's site, then it gives you a GMG code. [editline]2nd May 2015[/editline] You can give it to a friend, Phrozen gave me his.
[QUOTE=Levelog;47645904]Is your primary concern gaming? Then no.[/QUOTE] Okay, thanks!
[QUOTE=Levelog;47571637][b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54460]Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($226.98 @ Newegg Canada) [b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-cpu-cooler-cnps5xperforma]Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler[/url] ($20.99 @ NCIX) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-csmh87mg43]MSI CSM-H87M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($79.99 @ NCIX) [/QUOTE] I've been assembling my server from this parts list and it's seeming like the cooler actually doesn't fit with the motherboard at all? I'm hoping I'm just fucking something up here because this is a weird as shit cooler but anyway, here's the details: The motherboard has a [i]giant[/i] heatsink right above the CPU that completely blocks the brackets necessary to mount the CNPS5X. Pic: [thumb]http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/Elspin/IMG_20150502_1734121_zpsn6wp4gqr.jpg[/thumb] if I tighten that screw it goes right into the heatsink, I could probably make it fit by modifying the screw to be shorter or even removing that giant blue mushroom but I wanted your opinion on this first. I could also just use the cooler that came with the i5
You should honestly be able to remove the heatsink no problem. Even under heavy overclocking loads the top heatsinks are pretty pointless for modern intel systems, looking at the with thermal sensors it's pretty much always at ambient anyways. Just keep an eye on the motherboard temps the first time you set it up and the first time under load just to be safe.
[QUOTE=deathmog;47645795]Quick question, is there an i7 or Xeon that runs for about $240 that would be better than the i5 4690k that I'm going to get? I just want to get the best bang for my buck[/QUOTE] I've been asking myself a bit of the same question, umm-ing and err-ing between getting a i5 4690K or i7 4790K since my budget might theoretically be able to handle it. From what I've seen the i7 provides only a few percent more gaming performance for ~34% higher price, but could the i7 be worth it in terms of future-proofing? I've had my current i7 870 for over 4.5 years now and it seems to have held up well.
Unless you have work station applications to look forward to, i5 will cover all your gaming needs.
Need some advice on two different builds. So recently, 2 of my friends came up to me with different budgets and asked me if I could compile a list of PC parts for them since they want to get into PC gaming. [B]Here's the 1k budget one: [/B] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqBDyc]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqBDyc/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690]Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($218.99 @ Directron) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97pro4]ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($83.89 @ OutletPC) [b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl10d16gbxl]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($108.98 @ OutletPC) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssdhp128gg25]Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($59.99 @ NCIX US) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ealx]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($58.95 @ Amazon) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42974kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card[/url] ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz) [b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r]Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($47.99 @ Micro Center) [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100w10500kr]EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ NCIX US) [b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe]Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($14.98 @ OutletPC) [b]Total:[/b] $953.75 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-03 00:09 EDT-0400[/i] [B]And here's the 550$ one (he says he is a bit flexible on the price):[/B] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xNxFhM]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xNxFhM/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8320frhkbox]AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor[/url] ($125.99 @ SuperBiiz) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga970ad3p]Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard[/url] ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz) [b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbxl]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($52.99 @ Newegg) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd7500azex]Western Digital Caviar Blue 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($56.00 @ Amazon) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9280xtdbd]XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card[/url] ($237.99 @ SuperBiiz) [b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r]Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($47.99 @ Micro Center) [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500]Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg) [b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe]Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($14.98 @ OutletPC) [b]Total:[/b] $638.92 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-03 00:22 EDT-0400[/i] Any improvements I can make on either? A lower price on the second one would be ideal. Their goals are just "gaming", but to be a bit more specific, they're both aiming to hit Witcher 3 on Med-High and GTAV on High as ballpark estimates. I told them to wait for the new GPUs, but I was wondering if it will be worth the wait.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47649017]Get the Intel rig. It's the best out of those.[/QUOTE] I know. I'm wondering if there's anything to improve on that. And the second build is for my less well-off friend who wants a budget PC. Is there anything I can improve on that? Specifically lowering the price without taking a large performance hit. I honestly have no idea what a budget AMD processor is and I'm lost on motherboards as well.
[QUOTE=Kagu;47648975]Need some advice on two different builds. So recently, 2 of my friends came up to me with different budgets and asked me if I could compile a list of PC parts for them since they want to get into PC gaming. [B]Here's the 1k budget one: [/B] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqBDyc]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rqBDyc/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690]Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($218.99 @ Directron) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97pro4]ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($83.89 @ OutletPC) [b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl10d16gbxl]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($108.98 @ OutletPC) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssdhp128gg25]Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($59.99 @ NCIX US) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ealx]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($58.95 @ Amazon) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42974kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card[/url] ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz) [b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r]Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($47.99 @ Micro Center) [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100w10500kr]EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ NCIX US) [b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe]Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($14.98 @ OutletPC) [b]Total:[/b] $953.75 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-03 00:09 EDT-0400[/i] [/QUOTE] Since it looks like your first buddy isn't planning on overclocking, he can dual his gaming rig as serious workstation too if he switched out his cpu for: [url=http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=E3-1231V3B&c=CJ]Xeon E3-1231v3[/url] ~ ($232 @ Amazon) [b]Difference[/b] ~$11 more than I5-4690 Since your current board supports haswell refresh and has a LGA 1150 socket, the xeon should work just fine with your current set-up. The benefits of having this cpu over the I5-4690 is that the Xeon E3-1231v3 it has 8mb of L3 cache, plus its 4 cores can be hyper threaded into 8. So essentially, the xeon E3-1231v3 is an intel I7-4770. The reason why the price is a lot cheaper than an Intel I7-4770 is because the xeon lacks integrated graphics, but because you're picking up a dedicated graphics card already, that becomes a non-issue. With 8 threads and I7-like performance, video games and work stations tasks alike are easy-peasy.
[QUOTE=Kagu;47648975]Need some advice on two different builds.[/QUOTE] As your friend is flexible on price, I definitely recommend trying to ditch the stock AMD cooler for at least a 212 Evo, it decides to run at 5000+RPM as soon as you put any decent amount of load on it, and turning it to 'silent' in BIOS just makes the whole thing overheat. AMD chips are buggers for running nice and warm! [B]Edit: [/B][QUOTE=Kagu;47648975]I honestly have no idea what a budget AMD processor is and I'm lost on motherboards as well.[/QUOTE] The 8320 is the best price/performance wise from the FX-8xxx line; you can just overclock it to 8350 speeds. I personally use an Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 motherboard.
Probably getting an i5 4690K. What I'm very uncertain on now is what motherboard to purchase, I'm looking for one that will support 2-way SLI (GTX 970) to keep that upgrade path open in the future. Choosing from distributors in Sweden only my options are somewhat limited, but I found a decent ASUS Z97-A + Intel Core i5-4690K bundle. What I'm wondering is, is it possible to get away with this cheaper than an ASUS Z97-A?
My dad is literally forcing me to one up every part I'm getting. Went from a 250 gig to a 480 gig SSD Went from 8 gig ram to 16 gig ram. And now just went from an i5 to an i7. Best part is he's paying the difference because he knows I don't have the money :v:
I design networks with my dad :v: I'm a Network Administration student and he's been a network administrator for almost 20 years lol
my 590 has died. RIP. my friend I got it for free from apparently ran it at 95C+ for a good 2-3 years before I got it, and I got a good 6-7 months out of it at 80-85C for free. 970 here we gooooooooooooooooooooo.
[QUOTE=redBadger;47651051]My dad is literally forcing me to one up every part I'm getting. Went from a 250 gig to a 480 gig SSD Went from 8 gig ram to 16 gig ram. And now just went from an i5 to an i7. Best part is he's paying the difference because he knows I don't have the money :v:[/QUOTE] I wish mine was still alive
[QUOTE=Levelog;47648091]You should honestly be able to remove the heatsink no problem. Even under heavy overclocking loads the top heatsinks are pretty pointless for modern intel systems, looking at the with thermal sensors it's pretty much always at ambient anyways. Just keep an eye on the motherboard temps the first time you set it up and the first time under load just to be safe.[/QUOTE] Alright, just dropped the zalman cooler for the built in one, CPU is running at 40 celcius in the bios options so it's a bit off. The case is a bit of a mess to fit shit in but the biggest problem I'm having right now is the setup - I've never set up raid before and I assumed it would be in the bios but I can't find anything about raid at all in there. The manual mentions something about hitting ctrl+i when a prompt appears but I never get that - as soon as the bios screen passes I get a message saying [QUOTE]Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller Series v2.58 (10/08/13) PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable PXE-M0F: Exiting PXE ROM. Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key[/QUOTE] with no way to set up the raid controller before I install my OS. Is something else up here?
[QUOTE=Elspin;47654252]Alright, just dropped the zalman cooler for the built in one, CPU is running at 40 celcius in the bios options so it's a bit off. The case is a bit of a mess to fit shit in but the biggest problem I'm having right now is the setup - I've never set up raid before and I assumed it would be in the bios but I can't find anything about raid at all in there. The manual mentions something about hitting ctrl+i when a prompt appears but I never get that - as soon as the bios screen passes I get a message saying with no way to set up the raid controller before I install my OS. Is something else up here?[/QUOTE] Look in the bios and make sure RAID is set to the SATA operation, not AHCI
[QUOTE=Levelog;47654292]Look in the bios and make sure RAID is set to the SATA operation, not AHCI[/QUOTE] That sorted it, the board has a UEFI bios which is really poorly organized but I found it jammed in with some miscellaneous peripheral stuff. Should hopefully be all good now! ...and I'm getting a constant black screen with "B2" in the bottom right corner. This is really not going well. After some digging around, it turns out I needed to do a usb drive update of the bios... it appears to be in working order now? I think? I mean I've reached the point where windows server 2012 is asking me what language I want so I guess that's about all
Looking to build a PC for the first time with about an $800 budget. These are my current specs: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Radeon HD 7870 2GB i7 CPU 930 2.8GHz 6GB RAM I'm not sure what motherboard I have, the only info I can find is that its model is an Alienware Aurora (Late 2009) so it is certainly outdated no matter what it is. Anyway, I've been saving up money and was waiting until Windows 10 dropped before I started buying parts. The only thing is, this would be the first computer I am building (I've just had pre-built bought by my parents) and I know nothing of what parts are actually "good". Does anyone have some suggestions for my budget? Should I increase my budget? The only thing that I've upgraded in my computer is my graphics card, from a 5770 to a 7870 and that was 2 years ago. I've noticed games have started to get the better of my system and I just figured with the new Windows coming out would be a good time. Help would be appreciated!
[QUOTE=All0utWar;47661981]Looking to build a PC for the first time with about an $800 budget. [/QUOTE] So Alienware usually has pretty shitty and proprietary parts. Meaning there is a chance that no standard parts will fit into the case/mobo/psu. You will need a new MOBO anyway, since the CPU socket thats uses for the i7 930 is outdated. For the case im not sure. Please try and find the exact model of the build (sticker on the underside? or inside a bay?) Alienware also isnt know to put good PSU's in their builds. Please open up your case and post the brand, type and wattage here. -What games are you playing? -Please use speccy to give us more info. If you cannot use any old parts, due to "ALIENWARE TM" your budget is probably a tad low for a high end gaming pc. 850-950$ should do the trick.
[QUOTE=All0utWar;47661981]Looking to build a PC for the first time with about an $800 budget. These are my current specs: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Radeon HD 7870 2GB i7 CPU 930 2.8GHz 6GB RAM I'm not sure what motherboard I have, the only info I can find is that its model is an Alienware Aurora (Late 2009) so it is certainly outdated no matter what it is. Anyway, I've been saving up money and was waiting until Windows 10 dropped before I started buying parts. The only thing is, this would be the first computer I am building (I've just had pre-built bought by my parents) and I know nothing of what parts are actually "good". Does anyone have some suggestions for my budget? Should I increase my budget? The only thing that I've upgraded in my computer is my graphics card, from a 5770 to a 7870 and that was 2 years ago. I've noticed games have started to get the better of my system and I just figured with the new Windows coming out would be a good time. Help would be appreciated![/QUOTE] [url]http://choosemypc.net/[/url]
Now that I'm through with uni courses for the semester, I've been looking into upgrading a few of my current build's parts, and have a few questions about part selection. I'm primarily concerned with replacing my aging Intel Core i7 860, and have been debating on what model I should go for next. Up until now, I've been bouncing back and forth between a Core i5-4690K and a Core i7-4790K. Would it be worth spending the extra $100 to get the latter? (FWIW, my budget in terms of the CPU and an accompanying motherboard is pretty flexible, and I can afford to spend a bit extra if it means a better CPU in the long-run.) Another question: Would it be worth my time to replace my current PSU if said unit is a [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152036]Raidmax 730w[/url]? Other FP users have told me that Raidmax isn't the best manufacturer, and the fact that I'm once again wrestling with the issue I brought up in [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1412935]this thread[/url], I'm inclined to replace my PSU if need be. On that same note, I've got one final question: Should I look at replacing my [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127722] Radeon HD 7870[/url] if I do end up replacing my CPU? Intuition tells me that my current CPU is bottle-necking my rig, but I'm unsure as to how much of a performance increase I would see from replacing the CPU alone.
[QUOTE=BixByte;47664647]Now that I'm through with uni courses for the semester, I've been looking into upgrading a few of my current build's parts, and have a few questions about part selection. [/QUOTE] 1: For gaming, NO. For Rendering etc, Maybe. I7's usually arrent faster in games, and can very rarely even be slower. 2: [B]YES![/B], Raidmax is absolute trash. Im surprised it held out this long. Use this for selecting a new one. [URL]http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html[/URL] 3: That depends on the game. Games like Metro last light will benefit from a better GPU more, while games like Planetside 2 and Gta V will benefit from a better CPU more.
[QUOTE=taipan;47664794][B]YES![/B], Raidmax is absolute trash. Im surprised it held out this long. Use this for selecting a new one. [URL]http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Gave that list a look, and Raidmax was near the bottom tier; Figured as much. On that note, the EVGA SuperNOVA GS 850w looks like a fine replacement for the terror that I currently have, and should fit nicely alongside an i5-4690K. I'll stick to just upgrading the PSU and CPU/mobo for now, and see how much of a difference it makes. Battlefield 4 should be a decent benchmark, as it won't be hard to see an improvement upon the choppy, sub-30 FPS experience I've somehow become accustomed to. :v: Thanks for the advice!
[QUOTE=taipan;47664794]1: For gaming, NO. For Rendering etc, Maybe. I7's usually arrent faster in games, and can very rarely even be slower. 2: [B]YES![/B], Raidmax is absolute trash. Im surprised it held out this long. Use this for selecting a new one. [URL]http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html[/URL] 3: That depends on the game. Games like Metro last light will benefit from a better GPU more, while games like Planetside 2 and Gta V will benefit from a better CPU more.[/QUOTE] That's a pretty good resource, but I really don't like just solitary resources. Usually I cross reference that list with [URL="http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies"]this[/URL] and [URL="http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/PSUReviewDatabase.html"]this[/URL]. Jonnyguru is a pretty good place for reviews here.
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