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[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48251320]If you read the entire article of Anandtechs and Tomshardware review of the 8350 they clearly ALSO showed multi threaded applications. Clearly you aren't reading them.[/QUOTE] So, the multithreaded apps in the source you linked are; [B]Video Transcoding Performance[/B] - [I]FX-8 beats i5.[/I] [IMG]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51117.png[/IMG] [I]2nd pass - FX-8 beats i7.[/I] [IMG]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51118.png[/IMG] [B]Visual Studio 2012 - Multithreaded Compile Performance[/B] "The compile is multithreaded however there are periods of serial operation where performance is bound by the speed of a single core." [I] FX-8 is beaten by i5. [/I] [IMG]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51121.png[/IMG] [B]Photoshop Performance[/B] "Vishera falls behind a bit as this test isn't threaded enough to showcase the platform's advantages." [I]FX-8 is beaten by i5.[/I] [IMG]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51132.png[/IMG] I make that 2-2 on multithreaded applications. The source admits that the second two tests were actually single-core bound for periods in those scenarios.
Those antech benchmarks literally 2 RTSs, an MMO, and games running at ~200 FPS at tiny ass resolutions. [img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51141.png[/img] Like what, this benchmark is at 1024x768, which graphics down and CPU up, these benchmarks arent representative of how this CPU handles in videogames, they are just representative of the singlecore performance difference. This doesn't proof anything, other then that the intel cpu has better singlecore perforomance, which nobody was going to deny in the first place. The whole point is that if you take the average game, in an 60fps scenario, its performance impacts are questionable.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48251387]I'm still IN favor an i5 over this.[/QUOTE] An i5 is overall a better performing processor, I wholeheartedly agree. My point was that you shouldn't dismiss the 8350 as if it's worthless, because it's a strong performer for it's price. [B]Edit:[/B] [QUOTE=Cold;48251389]The whole point is that if you take the average game, in an 60fps scenario, its performance impacts are questionable.[/QUOTE] This.
[Quote]PCPartPicker part list: [url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/kFpwvK[/url] Price breakdown by merchant: [url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/kFpwvK/by_merchant/[/url] CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor (£278.99 @ Aria PC) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£65.46 @ CCL Computers) Thermal Compound: Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 0.15g Thermal Paste (£9.95 @ Amazon UK) Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard (£158.39 @ Scan.co.uk) Memory: Crucial 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£163.44 @ More Computers) Storage: Crucial BX100 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£122.99 @ Ebuyer) Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£64.93 @ Amazon UK) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£529.99 @ Aria PC) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (£529.99 @ Aria PC) Case: NZXT H630 (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£92.08 @ Scan.co.uk) Power Supply: EVGA 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£119.99 @ Novatech) Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£9.96 @ Aria PC) Monitor: AOC U2868PQU 60Hz 28.0" Monitor (£287.94 @ Amazon UK) Total: £2434.10 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available [/QUOTE] Possible 4K build The 980tis are placeholders for the palit jetstream ones around the same price Also maybe I'll get 2 of those ram packs and run a 32gb ramdisk
[QUOTE=Croninberg;48251393]An i5 is overall a better performing processor, I wholeheartedly agree. My point was that you shouldn't dismiss the 8350 as if it's worthless, because it's a strong performer for it's price. [B]Edit:[/B] This.[/QUOTE] There is just no point to buy an FX series processor new. The CPU/Motherboard chipset just has so many lacking features at this point.
Okay, I think I've settled on getting an Nvidia GTX 970 or an AMD R9 390. Why were the 390's recommended over the 970 for 1440p, is it the VRAM or something? Also are AMD's driver issues still a thing or is it overblown?
[QUOTE=kobalt;48251877]Okay, I think I've settled on getting an Nvidia GTX 970 or an AMD R9 390. Why were the 390's recommended over the 970 for 1440p, is it the VRAM or something? Also are AMD's driver issues still a thing or is it overblown?[/QUOTE] Double the VRAM and pretty much the same performance. Haven't heard of any driver issues lately.
[QUOTE=MrBacon;48252148]Double the VRAM and pretty much the same performance. Haven't heard of any driver issues lately.[/QUOTE] Sweet, that's all I needed. Unless anyone can tell me any hidden problems with the 390 in the next 8 or so hours I'll be getting a new GPU!
[QUOTE=Croninberg;48251357]So, the multithreaded apps in the source you linked are; [B]Video Transcoding Performance[/B] - [I]FX-8 beats i5.[/I] [t]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51117.png[/t] [I]2nd pass - FX-8 beats i7.[/I] More graphs etc blah blah [/QUOTE] But, these are all being compared to Ivy Bridge chipsets - while the performance difference is small between Ivy Bridge and Haswell/Refresh, there [i]is[/i] a difference, and I don't think it can be ignored. Although if you look at it that way, the AMD does fairly well for its age.
I got this monitor about a year ago for a pretty good deal. It's been pretty good but occasionally the back power connector will come loose. Overall the power connector isn't very secure and is very loose for some reason. Is there any way to fix this?
This research is certainly interesting so I'm still undecided on the processor/mobo, but could someone answer if I will need a new windows install for the new mobo/processor or if my current primary harddrive with Windows 7 will transition without issue?
[QUOTE=notrabies;48253684]This research is certainly interesting so I'm still undecided on the processor/mobo, but could someone answer if I will need a new windows install for the new mobo/processor or if my current primary harddrive with Windows 7 will transition without issue?[/QUOTE] Flip a coin. There's your answer.
[QUOTE=Levelog;48254792]Flip a coin. There's your answer.[/QUOTE] Sort of what I figured tbh. The only question I have left is that I see that i5 has integrated graphics, which is normally laughable, but considering the age of my card it might not be so. Would that be worth it to use as both my processor and video card? Current card: [url]http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/N...+Ti/review[/url] Intel integrated graphics: [url]http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/I...600/review[/url] If I'm using the integrated graphics, would it slow the performance of the processor or would it not be noticeable?
Just use your video card.
Friend's moving soon and needs to get parts within a week (amazon prime preferred, but any other 3 day or less shipping will do). 1600-1800 dollar budget. No peripherals. Already has a 500GB SSD. He wants 32GB of RAM (and has a legitimate reason), and would prefer Kingston. He is also looking at a Noctis 450 for a case (I don't know anything about it). Under budget is fine obviously.
What are his uses? I assume with 32gb of RAM being necessary a 5820k might be a better choice than a higher clocked 4790k.
would a athlon 860k be a bad idea to pair with a r9 280x? should i downgrade the gpu to get a better cpu? would getting a pentium anniversary edition with that card be a good idea? i dont really plan on doing any serious overclocking
[QUOTE=notrabies;48253684]This research is certainly interesting so I'm still undecided on the processor/mobo, but could someone answer if I will need a new windows install for the new mobo/processor or if my current primary harddrive with Windows 7 will transition without issue?[/QUOTE] If it works fine consider entering the lottery.
[QUOTE=helifreak;48257314]If it works fine consider entering the lottery.[/QUOTE] Don't you just need to install the new chipset drivers and away you go? That's how I've been doing it and it's worked fine every time.
I'm considering buying a new GPU since my old 6870 stopped working. Which one is better: R9 380 - 4gb, for 312$ or R9 280X - 3gb, for 285$ From what I saw so far, both of them will support DirectX 12, the 380 has a newer architecture, yet the 280X beats it performance wise. Are there any advantages to the 380, besides the extra 1gb VRAM?
The 280x will be a bit more powerful, but is a GCN version behind. The 380 may have a slightly higher feature set for DX12, but it's unlikely. I'd go for the 280x if you're playing at 1080p or lower.
samung evo 850 500GB or samung evo 850 250GB + 8GB ram
I think I'll go with the 380, the 280x is a bit old and the 380 seems more future-proof. Plus my shitty 550w PSU doesn't have 8 pin connectors for a 280x [QUOTE=Dizzlepro;48260092]samung evo 850 500GB or samung evo 850 250GB + 8GB ram[/QUOTE] If you already have 8 gb of ram, then you'll rarely need more for gaming, but an SSD can really make loading your OS/games faster. So I'd go with the first option.
[QUOTE=The Dovahneer;48256643]would a athlon 860k be a bad idea to pair with a r9 280x? should i downgrade the gpu to get a better cpu? would getting a pentium anniversary edition with that card be a good idea? i dont really plan on doing any serious overclocking[/QUOTE] the pentium A's price to performance really is about its overclockability, the performance of it is half if you don't overclock it.
[QUOTE=helifreak;48257314]If it works fine consider entering the lottery.[/QUOTE] Man, I could be winning the lottery? My roommate's Windows 8 install on an external USB drive gets regularly booted off like 4 completely different computers no problem.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;48260385]Man, I could be winning the lottery? My roommate's Windows 8 install on an external USB drive gets regularly booted off like 4 completely different computers no problem.[/QUOTE] Windows 8 may support it better but when I upgraded from C2D to i7 Windows 7 was blue screening before it even got to starting windows, same thing for my friend. It was probably due for a reinstall at that point anyway so no biggie.
I've had drives transfer from old AMD systems to new Intel ones just fine, and I've had an install BSOD constantly moving between two boards with the same fucking chipset generation. It's just a crapshoot.
Guys, I have two recommended builds for my PC, one from Levelog and one from a known person of mine. This is my current PC: [t]http://i.imgur.com/Wcll0ZP.png[/t] These are the two builds: [QUOTE=Levelog;46708895][url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cbh4GX]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Cbh4GX/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54440]Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($169.99 @ Amazon) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97mpro4]ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($81.98 @ Newegg) [b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-997002]Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($59.99 @ Newegg) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9270acdfc]XFX Radeon R9 270 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card[/url] ($149.99 @ Amazon) [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9]XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ Amazon) [b]Total:[/b] $511.94 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-14 01:53 EST-0500[/i][/QUOTE] And the other one: [b]CPU:[/b] AMD FX6300; 6-Core 3.5 Ghz [b]Memory:[/b] Kingston 8gb RAM DDR3 [b]Video Card:[/b] ATI Radeon R7 250X2 gb DDR5 [b]Power Supply:[/b] Thermaltake 600 W All the other things the same. I want to know which one is better depending on the price and "power". Thanks in advance
Mine, by far.
[QUOTE=Zender Troop;48279225]Guys, I have two recommended builds for my PC, one from Levelog and one from a known person of mine. This is my current PC: [t]http://i.imgur.com/Wcll0ZP.png[/t] These are the two builds: And the other one: [b]CPU:[/b] AMD FX6300; 6-Core 3.5 Ghz [b]Memory:[/b] Kingston 8gb RAM DDR3 [b]Video Card:[/b] ATI Radeon R7 250X2 gb DDR5 [b]Power Supply:[/b] Thermaltake 600 W All the other things the same. I want to know which one is better depending on the price and "power". Thanks in advance[/QUOTE] Levelog's, hands down. An R7 250X2? Seriously? Coupled with a [B][I]Thermaltake[/I][/B] psu? No.
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