• PC Building Thread
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[QUOTE=Levelog;47406776]Why do you have to return them?[/QUOTE] Becuase I was only borrowing them. Just thought it was post worthy as it's not very often i have £1400 worth of GPUs sat under my desk. Haha.
[QUOTE=Meekal;47413983]Becuase I was only borrowing them. Just thought it was post worthy as it's not very often i have £1400 worth of GPUs sat under my desk. Haha.[/QUOTE] Ah, shoulda sent me the hydrocopper. I didn't even realize the 980 hydro was out.
Buy a 3gb refurb'd msi 7950 from GPUshack, add an SSD. Sure you can find somebody to get you an OS cheaper aswell.
What's your budget? The PSU isn't very good, and the H80i really isn't worth the money. You can get an air cooler that cools far better for less money, or a dual 120 like an H100i for just a bit more.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47427416]I picked out that build but included [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr"]this [/URL]over that unless I was tired. Also the H80i is fine for small to mild over clocking nothing to extreme or non at all. Sure he could get a h100i if he really wanted to over clock or just get a 212 evo for no over clocking at all, just picked the h80i cause it was the inbetween.[/QUOTE] Neither PSU is good. And I'm just saying the H80i is a waste because you can get something like a Noctua D14 or the equivalent Phantek Tsomethingorother for cheaper and it will cool far better. The 120mm AIO's aren't really in between, they're just mediocre. [editline]30th March 2015[/editline] [URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9"]This PSU[/URL] is $5 more and far better.
I'd say just use the PSU I linked, and go down to a Coolermaster 212 EVO. You're not going to get a great OC out of that board anyways.
[URL="http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermalright-cpu-cooler-ts120mbwreva"]This one's within 3 degrees of a 212 EVO.[/URL] Forgot how tall the EVO was and how small that case is. You can go ahead with the H80i as well if you want. It's not a bad cooler, it's just not worth the price imo.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6g6XNG]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6g6XNG/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz16gx3m2a1600c10]Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($119.54 @ Amazon) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001]Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($75.89 @ OutletPC) [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20850xr]EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($117.99 @ NCIX US) [b]Total:[/b] $313.42 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-31 03:26 EDT-0400[/i] Getting these friday, then my brand new computer will finally be finished.
Hey guys, I'm upping my game shortly. New GPU and PSU to boot. From a Radeon HD 5500 series to a EVGA GTX 980. I have limited my search due to case size to these 2 cards. least expensive: [url]http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=VGAEVG2983&name=EVGA-GeForce-GTX980-4GB-SC-Version-PCI-E-3.0-Video[/url] a little more: [url]http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=VGAEVG2986&name=EVGA-GeForce-GTX980-4GB-FTW-Version-PCI-E-3.0-Vide[/url] I'd like to know the main differnces between the two and make sure I'm not missing anything by skimping. The second thing is a new Power supply, boosting to a 1000 Watt just for the future. I've landed on this [url]http://www.gli.co.nz/default.aspx?show=4203[/url] They sell it just down the road from me and I already inquired with them. Any recomendations would be neat, not much experience with pc building or the fanciest jargon. Been planning this for over 6 months now....
Hey guys, I'm looking to build a PC and so far I've come up with this list: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Y6N7Hx[/url] I've been out of the loop on hardware, and I'm unsure what sort of video card would synergize well with this setup. I intend to play games that are not ultra demanding (Fallout NV, Battlefield, Deus Ex HR) as well as indie titles. Please let me know if anything here is overkill for my purposes.
A 960 would do really well with that build. Low powered but with good performance.
[QUOTE=Levelog;47433864]A 960 would do really well with that build. Low powered but with good performance.[/QUOTE] Would [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487091&cm_re=gtx_960-_-14-487-091-_-Product"]this[/URL] be too large for the case? I noticed in some of the reviews that it is a big card.
PCPartPicker part list: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yZTXZL[/url] Price breakdown by merchant: [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yZTXZL/by_merchant/[/url] CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($332.27 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.75 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($123.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Seagate Barracuda ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.00 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($319.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.99 @ NCIX US) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.75 @ OutletPC) Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($35.39 @ Amazon) Total: $1268.09 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-01 14:20 EDT-0400 I'm buying most of this shit local however, due to my bro getting some sweet discounts at his work. Depending on how much I can get the price down I'll probably get a motherboard that has usb3.1 I'm sure by summer there'll be some deals. [editline]1st April 2015[/editline] [url]http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-DDR3-Motherboards-USB-3-1/dp/B00TXBP1NS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1426783593&sr=8-4&keywords=z97-a/usb+3.1[/url] Would this be a good alternative to my current motherboard option
If you have an AC router, I'd get an AC adapter instead of n. I just got one and it has boosted my throughput immensely. I also would recommend that if you are only playing games, get an i5 instead, and use the money saved to get a 980 instead. The i7 would be better at heavily threaded apps, none of which are games, but a 980 is noticeably better than a 970 in games, especially at higher resolutions. I love my 970 and I absolutely recommend one, but with a budget like that, you can change some things around and get a cheaper non-overclockable i5 and you'd have the budget for a 980, and every game will run better than they would if you got an i7 and a 970. If you're gonna be doing work like encoding or something like that, ignore this, because the i7 will be better at those tasks. But for games, the performance difference is negligible and thus the money could be better spent on the video card, from which you'd actually notice an improvement.
You know you may be right. It's not entirely a gaming rig, as I'll be doing work with Pro Tools and Unreal 4, but as I look over the specs for Pro Tools, it doesn't demand an i7. As for the router adapter, I'll be mostly on the second floor of my house. My router is in my basement and my extender is on the first. I have no time for ethernet. So will an AC adapter not compromise speed but still allow me to hook it up via Ethernet?
You can always hook up via ethernet no matter what wifi standard you use. The AC standard just allows you up to like 800mbps wifi or something like that, maybe even more depending on your router. Which is close or at least comparable to 1gbps wired speeds. However, that's on the 5ghz band, which degrades heavily when going through walls, unlike the 2.5ghz bands that older wifi standards use. The one that would be best for you depends on your setup. You say you're on the top floor with an extender on the ground floor- depending on the construction of your floors and walls, 5ghz AC may not be an upgrade for you, in fact may even result in signal loss compared to 2.5ghz n. And about the i7 - I don't have an experience with protools myself, I don't know how threaded it is. But like I said, for any heavily threaded apps, an i7 will do noticeably better than an i5 - but only for those apps. For any game though, there is no difference. I'd look up some benchmarks for the specific apps you use and decide if the extra cost is worth it for your purposes. The i7 may future proof you against heavily threaded apps and games of the future - if they ever come out. Which is a maybe at this point, there's like two games out there that use more than a few threads. But a 980 will keep you gaming at higher settings for a longer period of time.
[QUOTE=J Paul;47438330]You can always hook up via ethernet no matter what wifi standard you use. The AC standard just allows you up to like 800mbps wifi or something like that, maybe even more depending on your router. Which is close or at least comparable to 1gbps wired speeds. However, that's on the 5ghz band, which degrades heavily when going through walls, unlike the 2.5ghz bands that older wifi standards use. The one that would be best for you depends on your setup. You say you're on the top floor with an extender on the ground floor- depending on the construction of your floors and walls, 5ghz AC may not be an upgrade for you, in fact may even result in signal loss compared to 2.5ghz n. And about the i7 - I don't have an experience with protools myself, I don't know how threaded it is. But like I said, for any heavily threaded apps, an i7 will do noticeably better than an i5 - but only for those apps. For any game though, there is no difference. I'd look up some benchmarks for the specific apps you use and decide if the extra cost is worth it for your purposes. The i7 may future proof you against heavily threaded apps and games of the future - if they ever come out. Which is a maybe at this point, there's like two games out there that use more than a few threads. But a 980 will keep you gaming at higher settings for a longer period of time.[/QUOTE] AC is really top notch tech though. It can actually be faster than gigabit LAN. There are still obvious benefits to a wired connection, but I'm just glad there's finally a great alternative to drilling through walls/floors to get a cable to your system. [editline]1st April 2015[/editline] And yeah, what I always say when choosing between an i5 or an i7 in a limited budget: What matters more to you, and are you doing it professionally? If you prioritize rendering or whatever over gaming, get an i7. Same if you do it professionally.
Oh yeah don't get me wrong, AC is fantastic. Just as an anecdote on my part, I have an AC router and adapter and I'm a floor up and two walls away from it and my throughput is still great, signal at least equal to the 2.5ghz range. But I mean he might have to buy a new/different extender and depending on the walls in his particular house, there may be a difference in reception. Most likely not, though, it's just a possibility. When I go outside the house though the 5ghz signal plummets and 2.5 fares much better. Must be the bricks.
my only question now is EVGA 980 or msi?
I'm personally liking MSI with this 900 series. EVGA dropped the ball with VRM's outside of their classified and kingpin models (possibly intentionally) while MSI went full out because they are not planning on doing a 980 Lightning.
I'm finishing my new PC tomorrow, and I'm torn between Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows 8 Pro. I really love Windows 7 and since I'd be booting off an SSD, boot times won't make a difference. Is it really important that I switch, or can I stay comfy and keep using 7?
I mean if you've already got 7, no sense in shelling out for 8. But 8 does also run quicker and take less resources, SSD aside. If you're considering buying either, Ultimate/Pro is a waste of money if you don't have to join to a domain.
I'm torn between two HDDs? Which would you say is better/more worth it? [url=http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2tb-seagate-st2000dm001-barracuda-720014-sata-3-6gb-s-7200rpm-64mb-cache-8ms-oem-ncq]Seagate [B]2TB[/B] SATA III Performance Desktop Hard Drive 7200rpm 64MB Cache 7200rpm[/url] - £58.78 or [url=http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3tb-toshiba-dt01aba300-dt-series-35-hdd-sata-iii-6gb-s-5940rpm-32mb-cache-8ms-ncq-retail-boxed]Toshiba DT01ABA300 [B]3TB[/B] 3.5 Inch SATA 3 Hard Drive Retail Boxed[/url] - £69.96
Well I've never been impressed by toshiba drives, it's a fair bit slower, and it has half the cache. I've got that 2tb Seagate and it's a really great drive.
[QUOTE=Levelog;47443834]Well I've never been impressed by toshiba drives, it's a fair bit slower, and it has half the cache. I've got that 2tb Seagate and it's a really great drive.[/QUOTE] Thanks man, Seagate it is!
[QUOTE=antair;47441296]I'm finishing my new PC tomorrow, and I'm torn between Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows 8 Pro. I really love Windows 7 and since I'd be booting off an SSD, boot times won't make a difference. Is it really important that I switch, or can I stay comfy and keep using 7?[/QUOTE] I would go Windows 8. Its optimized pretty smooth and the boot times are improved compared to 7. Plus Win 10 is also coming this summer as a free upgrade so thats always an option.
I'd wait for Win10. No sense in upgrading when 10 is coming out this summer for free.
Hey guys! I need a new PC and unfortunately I have absolutely no clue about the hardware situation at the moment. Furthermore I live in Germany so newegg and most of the other usual sites are out. I tried copying the "below $750" PC found in the OP but wasn't able to find some parts (such as the motherboard), so it would be great if you could give me some feedback on this. 179,85 € CPU Intel Core i5 4460 4x 3.20GHz [url]http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Intel-Core-i5-4460-4x-3-20GHz-So-1150-BOX_960035.html[/url] 76,67 € Motherboard ASRock H87 Pro4 Intel H87 So.1150 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX Retail [url]http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/ASRock-H87-Pro4-Intel-H87-So-1150-Dual-Channel-DDR3-ATX-Retail_854962.html[/url] 56,94 € RAM 8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit [url]http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-DDR3-1600-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit_794504.html[/url] 107,85 € HDD 250GB Samsung 850 [url]http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/250GB-Samsung-850-Evo-2-5Zoll--6-4cm--SATA-6Gb-s-TLC-Toggle--MZ-75E250B-E_987465.html[/url] 214,44 € GPU 2048MB MSI GeForce GTX 960 Gaming 2G Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 [url]http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/2048MB-MSI-GeForce-GTX-960-Gaming-2G-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_989381.html[/url] 54,70 € Case Corsair Carbide Series 200R Midi Tower [url]http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Corsair-Carbide-Series-200R-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz_822379.html[/url] 69,84 € PSU 620 Watt Seasonic S12II Bronze [url]http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/620-Watt-Seasonic-S12II-Bronze-Non-Modular-80--Bronze_638249.html[/url] No HDD, instead a slightly bigger SSD. For a grand total of 760€. Is there anything that could be improved? I'd be willing to go up to around 900€ if the performance gain is worth it.
You'll want to have an H97 board, not an H87 as the 4460 is a haswell refresh chip. Otherwise it looks really good. Bumping the 960 to a 970 would be very worth it as well if you can fit it in your budget.
Would I notice a difference on this rig: AMD FX 6300 Hex GTX 960 8GB going up to 16GB RAM?
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