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Please, help me find good minotor. 23-24 inch, 1080p, IPS (or good TN), <6ms, with DVI-D. For usual gaming, internet surfing and sometimes casual photoshoping. Budget is ~200-250$
Feel the cringe. [URL="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mm-OC4rethU2uwXm2ayi17c3J19wBikCO5-sOrZiZb4/edit#gid=0"]This[/URL] is Gaming PC build of some streamer with the name Edgar.
I'm looking to upgrade my GPU on a $300 AUD budget, I currently have an AMD 6850. I'm thinking about a 2GB 960 for exactly $299 (not including shipping and all that). Wondering if I could get a better card even if its only slightly better for the same price or even a tiny bit cheaper, including if I were to OC it of course. My PSU is 650W as well if it helps. I've just heard that a 770 could be better if it was OC, or even a ti one non OC. Just wanna make sure here.
[QUOTE=Edge97;48958467]Feel the cringe. [URL="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mm-OC4rethU2uwXm2ayi17c3J19wBikCO5-sOrZiZb4/edit#gid=0"]This[/URL] is Gaming PC build of some streamer with the name Edgar.[/QUOTE] The guys audio stuff is a complete joke lol. He literally did everything wrong in regards to audio.
[QUOTE=Edge97;48958467]Feel the cringe. [URL="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mm-OC4rethU2uwXm2ayi17c3J19wBikCO5-sOrZiZb4/edit#gid=0"]This[/URL] is Gaming PC build of some streamer with the name Edgar.[/QUOTE] His fans cost more than my whole computer.&#12288;The fuck is wrong with this individual?
Guy is a total tool, just look at his twitch profile.
Picture of the inside of that PC: [t]https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10497245_1560931660832217_2974853341062678880_o.jpg[/t] The dude has two $7,500 Xeons and 256GB of 2133mhz DDR4 for his [URL="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a0X-yUlPkp-gfzQQ_WwKvpJQmOnut60u1wdLVpKgLnQ/edit#gid=0"]streaming PC.[/URL] Only a GTX 980 though, what a poser!
You'd think he could have gotten an actual top quality case with that budget instead of some plastic and steel crap.
[QUOTE=Jocken300;48956914]Thanks for the info, I did some research and they all look pretty promising. I've been considering investing in liquid cooling, however it's pretty pricey and upgrading my CPU, RAM and motherboard is already going to be pretty expensive. Are there any liquid cooling kits you'd recommend?[/QUOTE] if you want you could buy a z97 board, an i7 4790k and reuse your ram if you want to save money for watercooling i dont know much about aios and even less about custom loops so idk what to tell you about what to buy
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48959587]I'm not gonna lie. That is some sexy as fuck watercooling and water color. But the money wasted. Eh.[/QUOTE] It's okay. I've seen far cooler.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FYtthM]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FYtthM/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad3500ojgxbox]AMD A6-3500 2.1GHz Triple-Core Processor[/url] (-) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-f1a55mlxplus]Asus F1A55-M LX PLUS Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard[/url] (-) [b]Memory:[/b] *[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-kvr13n9s8h4]Kingston 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory[/url] ($19.00 @ Amazon) [b]Memory:[/b] *[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx318c10fr8]Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory[/url] ($42.89 @ OutletPC) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($63.89 @ Amazon) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st31000340ns]Seagate Barracuda ES.2 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (-) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003663l]Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card[/url] [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/apevia-power-supply-atxcw500wp4]Apevia 500W ATX Power Supply[/url] ($20.98 @ Newegg) [b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/roccat-keyboard-roc12701]ROCCAT ISKU Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] ($73.22 @ Amazon) [b]Mouse:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-mouse-910004069]Logitech G402 Wired Optical Mouse[/url] ($45.89 @ Amazon) [b]Total:[/b] $265.87 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-22 15:22 EDT-0400[/i] Christmas coming. I could afford some upgrades; anything that should be improved over there? (Aside of getting another 8GB memory to match) I want it mostly for gaming, then some movie watching, a small bit of video rendering (but it can take its time so I guess it's not important)... But mainly games. I also like having tons of apps opened at the same time, if it helps.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48960727]it would struggle in a lot of things whats your real budget[/QUOTE] I don't have one in particular... It'd be $110~$220, but I could add some of my own or just save up if it's a sweet deal. I might also get from other sources so it could be higher. Between $150 to $350 could be a good estimation.
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[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;48960861]i meant spec list wise what toaster are you posting on[/QUOTE] The specs from my first post are the ones I'm using right now. [QUOTE=Coment;48960714][url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FYtthM]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FYtthM/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad3500ojgxbox]AMD A6-3500 2.1GHz Triple-Core Processor[/url] (-) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-f1a55mlxplus]Asus F1A55-M LX PLUS Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard[/url] (-) [b]Memory:[/b] *[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-kvr13n9s8h4]Kingston 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory[/url] ($19.00 @ Amazon) [b]Memory:[/b] *[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx318c10fr8]Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory[/url] ($42.89 @ OutletPC) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($63.89 @ Amazon) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st31000340ns]Seagate Barracuda ES.2 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (-) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003663l]Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card[/url] [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/apevia-power-supply-atxcw500wp4]Apevia 500W ATX Power Supply[/url] ($20.98 @ Newegg) [b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/roccat-keyboard-roc12701]ROCCAT ISKU Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] ($73.22 @ Amazon) [b]Mouse:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-mouse-910004069]Logitech G402 Wired Optical Mouse[/url] ($45.89 @ Amazon) [b]Total:[/b] $265.87 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-22 15:22 EDT-0400[/i].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coment;48960714][url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FYtthM]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FYtthM/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad3500ojgxbox]AMD A6-3500 2.1GHz Triple-Core Processor[/url] (-) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-f1a55mlxplus]Asus F1A55-M LX PLUS Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard[/url] (-) [b]Memory:[/b] *[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-kvr13n9s8h4]Kingston 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory[/url] ($19.00 @ Amazon) [b]Memory:[/b] *[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx318c10fr8]Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory[/url] ($42.89 @ OutletPC) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($63.89 @ Amazon) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st31000340ns]Seagate Barracuda ES.2 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (-) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003663l]Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card[/url] [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/apevia-power-supply-atxcw500wp4]Apevia 500W ATX Power Supply[/url] ($20.98 @ Newegg) [b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/roccat-keyboard-roc12701]ROCCAT ISKU Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] ($73.22 @ Amazon) [b]Mouse:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-mouse-910004069]Logitech G402 Wired Optical Mouse[/url] ($45.89 @ Amazon) [b]Total:[/b] $265.87 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-22 15:22 EDT-0400[/i] Christmas coming. I could afford some upgrades; anything that should be improved over there? (Aside of getting another 8GB memory to match) I want it mostly for gaming, then some movie watching, a small bit of video rendering (but it can take its time so I guess it's not important)... But mainly games. I also like having tons of apps opened at the same time, if it helps.[/QUOTE] (Assuming the items with prices aren't what you're buying) You would benefit far more from a different CPU/GPU than more RAM at that point. Not entirely familiar with AMD processors but the A6-3500 doesn't exactly look too great. Also, do you live in Spain or the US?
Is there any difference between an am3 socket and an am3+ socket?
[QUOTE][url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/khdLmG]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/khdLmG/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690]Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($212.95 @ SuperBiiz) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z97pcmate]MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($80.85 @ OutletPC) [b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/a-data-memory-ax3u1600w8g9dr]A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($85.77 @ OutletPC) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssda240gg25]Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($71.24 @ B&H) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001]Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($66.89 @ OutletPC) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx9604gd5toc]MSI GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card[/url] ($196.99 @ SuperBiiz) [b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r]Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($49.99 @ Micro Center) [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg620m]Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($85.68 @ SuperBiiz) [b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas12414]Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($16.75 @ OutletPC) [b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-kw900140]Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)[/url] ($97.89 @ OutletPC) [b]Total:[/b] $965.00 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-22 16:37 EDT-0400[/i][/QUOTE] Are there any H97 ATX mobos with similar features to the one I picked for a lower price, or one with better features under $150? I know pretty much nothing about motherboards and I have no idea if I picked a good one
Been looking at motherboards for a while now, I swear they all get really dodgy and weird reviews. [URL="http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7BB3AX7539"]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7BB3AX7539[/URL] or [url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130779&cm_re=MSI_Z97_PC_Mate-_-13-130-779-_-Product[/url] This alright? I'm just looking for a motherboard with plenty of SATA3 ports for harddrives and a LGA 1150 socket for a CPU.
[QUOTE=ZestyLemons;48961429]Been looking at motherboards for a while now, I swear they all get really dodgy and weird reviews. [url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7BB3AX7539[/url] This alright? I'm just looking for a motherboard with plenty of SATA3 ports for harddrives and a LGA 1150 socket for a CPU.[/QUOTE] I've always noticed that 80% of Newegg reviews are from people who got DOA products for some reason
My friend sent me one 250 gig HDD and two 160 gig hdds for free. Thinking I'm going to use the 250 for some extra storage and the two 160s for Hackintosh and Linux.
What components can usually be switched out of a laptop?
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;48963221]What components can usually be switched out of a laptop?[/QUOTE] RAM, HDD/SSD, disk drive, screen often, CPU often. If the GPU is MXM standard that can be swapped out.
Are there any laptops out there known for having mxm compatible boards standard that don't cost a fortune? I only ask because I'm between either repairing my laptop that's currently having problems with the hard drive or just bite the bullet and grab a new one because I'd love to be able to play Fallout 4 when it comes out but I'm not sure if this one (Lenovo Thinkpad Y500) can handle it. I don't think the card, a 2GB 650M, nor the board (not sure which one is supposed to be compatible tbh) are MXM compatible so upgrading the gpu is probably out of the question. And, naturally, if I can get a laptop that I can upgrade later on, that could help enormously.
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;48963420]Are there any laptops out there known for having mxm compatible boards standard that don't cost a fortune? I only ask because I'm between either repairing my laptop that's currently having problems with the hard drive or just bite the bullet and grab a new one because I'd love to be able to play Fallout 4 when it comes out but I'm not sure if this one (Lenovo Thinkpad Y500) can handle it. I don't think the card, a 2GB 650M, nor the board (not sure which one is supposed to be compatible tbh) are MXM compatible so upgrading the gpu is probably out of the question. And, naturally, if I can get a laptop that I can upgrade later on, that could help enormously.[/QUOTE] A lot of the thicker Clevo/Sager models are. You'll have to do a bit of research per specific model probably though. The build quality on them isn't fantastic, but it's comparable to that Y500 you have.
Hey guys, I'm thinking of dropping $1.6k on this Sager gaming notebook. I know that building my own PC is a significantly cheaper option, but I need portable gaming on-the-go. I need this thing to run Fallout 4 at High/Very High with at least 50 fps. [img]http://i.imgur.com/ZhqYPtw.png[/img] Future games I plan on playing are Overwatch, Star Wars: Battlefront, and No Man's Sky. I'd like the laptop to last at least 3 years before it gets outdated. Good purchase? I did a lot of research and this ended up offering the best price to performance ratio of all the higher-end gaming notebooks that I looked into (unless someone tells me otherwise).
I reckon that'll run Fallout 4 at the frames you want it. It's pretty good specs wise.
[QUOTE=Backfall;48970496]Hey guys, I'm thinking of dropping $1.6k on this Sager gaming notebook. I know that building my own PC is a significantly cheaper option, but I need portable gaming on-the-go. I need this thing to run Fallout 4 at High/Very High with at least 50 fps. Future games I plan on playing are Overwatch, Star Wars: Battlefront, and No Man's Sky. I'd like the laptop to last at least 3 years before it gets outdated. Good purchase? I did a lot of research and this ended up offering the best price to performance ratio of all the higher-end gaming notebooks that I looked into (unless someone tells me otherwise).[/QUOTE] Well if you really need it, that would be about the specs you are looking for. Just a note: Know that you can build a pc that will beat this into the ground and is upgradable for 800$. This laptop will not play high end games on high, 2 years from now. The 970M is not the same as a normal 970. Now thats out of the way, this might be a cheaper option: [URL]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152817[/URL] Only difference is a slightly smaller ssd and an slightly older CPU model. (You wont notice the difference) MSI is really good atm.
[QUOTE=taipan;48972373] Now thats out of the way, this might be a cheaper option: [URL]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152817[/URL] Only difference is a slightly smaller ssd and an slightly older CPU model. (You wont notice the difference) MSI is really good atm.[/QUOTE] Neat! That looks pretty good, thanks for the link. The 6th gen Skylake processors are being touted to be "signifcantly better for gaming" than the 5th gen Broadwell ones. How true is this? The $200+ bump to go from i7-5700HQ to the i7-6700HQ seems like kind of a lot. I'm sure I won't notice the difference now, but will I notice it in 2 years? The MSI one also doesn't have an option to get the G-SYNC version of the GTX 970M. Is that fine for a notebook? I'm not even entirely sure if G-SYNC is a gimmick on these higher-end laptops. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these machines are going to be pushing so many frames per second that there's going to be barely any discernible tearing or stuttering going on to warrant the G-SYNC displays.
Screen tearing happens when the framerate is significantly higher than the screen's refresh rate. Screen tearing doesn't go away with a faster framerate.
[QUOTE=Backfall;48972624]Neat! That looks pretty good, thanks for the link. The 6th gen Skylake processors are being touted to be "signifcantly better for gaming" than the 5th gen Broadwell ones. How true is this? The $200+ bump to go from i7-5700HQ to the i7-6700HQ seems like kind of a lot. I'm sure I won't notice the difference now, but will I notice it in 2 years? The MSI one also doesn't have an option to get the G-SYNC version of the GTX 970M. Is that fine for a notebook? I'm not even entirely sure if G-SYNC is a gimmick on these higher-end laptops. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these machines are going to be pushing so many frames per second that there's going to be barely any discernible tearing or stuttering going on to warrant the G-SYNC displays.[/QUOTE] The MSI laptop doesnt have a g-sync monitor. But I personally wouldnt pay 200+80 euro's for just that. Its not a gimmick though. That laptop is good, but already wont keep heavy games like The Witcher 3, Or Star Citizen and the likes on 60 Fps on Ultra. Looking in my crystal ball, It probably will keep Fallout 4 at 60+ though. For source games and the like its a non issue, because they will run at 400 fps and you can limit them at twice your screens refresh rate to stop tearing. (60 hertz screen=limit at 120fps) Your choice really if you want to spend 280$ on G-sync. Ive never really had an issue with the occasional tearing on games.
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