Trying to find a decent 15" laptop, your opinions please?
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[QUOTE=Bannned;16709448]Dell = Alienware.[/QUOTE]
Dell = Good Parts
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5 year old comp still running fine... no problems
My budget? Preferably under $2000 CAD, but if it's justified, I'd say ~$2400 CAD maximum.
Go for the 15" Macbook Pro,
For those saying the MBP's are overpriced pieces of junk that are popular only because of the brand need to do their own research. I've spent the last two days doing nothing but look for alternatives to a 17" MBP 3.06Ghz and to get a Dell with those specs your going to need one of the M6400 series and it'll weigh 9 pounds and cost $1000 more just for the same exact specs as the already expensive mac book. The RGB LED screen on the Dell to me doesn't justify the extra money or the awful design/size of the Dell.
Get a Dell.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;16727289]The Pro's trackpad is multi touch. You can use up to four fingers for gestures, like four swiped up brings all the windows up so you can see your desktop, four down shows all the windows for expose. Three fingers left and right are the equivalent of back and forward on web browser and other applications.[/QUOTE]
Yeah my both Asus laptops have features like that, and guess what you never really use them
Gah, the only thing I hate about my Inspiron 1545 though is that Dell switched from the awesome extremely accurate Synaptics touch pads to the shitty Alps touch pad. It has retard sessions every 15 minutes where it stops responding and instead grows a mind of its own and flips shit all over the screen. Not very productive.
[QUOTE=Ajacks;16728151]Go for the 15" Macbook Pro,
For those saying the MBP's are overpriced pieces of junk that are popular only because of the brand need to do their own research. I've spent the last two days doing nothing but look for alternatives to a 17" MBP 3.06Ghz and to get a Dell with those specs your going to need one of the M6400 series and it'll weigh 9 pounds and cost $1000 more just for the same exact specs as the already expensive mac book. The RGB LED screen on the Dell to me doesn't justify the extra money or the awful design/size of the Dell.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220560[/url]
N0 it isn't 400mhz higher but it is cheaper and that 400mhz won't matter in the long run anyways.
no it isn;t 17 inch but 16 and 17 are prettyl close screen size wise
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I think macs are fine just not for the price
[QUOTE=Keegs_;16728047]Dell = Good Parts
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5 year old comp still running fine... no problems[/QUOTE]
Dell = overpriced shitty propriety parts
and you can't talk jack shit, you're the faggot who wasted all our time and bought alienware because you were butthurt we wouldn't help you when you finally decided you [I]could[/I] maybe bring yourself to build
Hmm, okay tben. These are all good options but now that you mention it, is building a laptop any good? I've heard that it's a nightmare to find compatible parts and such, and I don't know if it would be cheaper than buying a pre-build laptop, which is why I've stayed away, but is it an option?
you have to pay out the ass for DIYlaptops OCZ has some if you want to check it out
I have a Macbook Pro (albeit one of the earlier models) and it runs Windows amazingly. All of the games look great. The Mac Partition is also useful for designing and stuff like that. So I say go for the Mac.
Get the mac if you can afford it. You could get Windows 7 RC for free for a few months. The multi-touch is extremely convenient and the battery life is great. The monitor is amazing too. Plus you get OSX and Windows.
If you install Hackintosh on an average laptop, do you still get the multi touch abilities about it? That's about the only thing that makes me love using an Apple laptop.
[QUOTE=reapaninja;16729073]Dell = overpriced shitty propriety parts
and you can't talk jack shit, you're the faggot who wasted all our time and bought alienware because you were butthurt we wouldn't help you when you finally decided you [I]could[/I] maybe bring yourself to build[/QUOTE]
Shut up, fanboy. Dell makes quality laptops, especially if you customize online.
[QUOTE=SilverHedgehog;16724728]MacBook Pro: awesome touchpad, iPod, and even the lowest one (mine) runs source games with high fps on max settings. If you are ging into video classes, [b]my After Effects run very fast for a low-end[/b], so they will work very good on the MacBook Pro you picked. And dude, an iPod![/QUOTE]
and to think that [url=http://creativemac.digitalmedianet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=589477&afterinter=true]After Effects runs even faster on a PC with [b]Vista[/b][/url] than on Leopard.
[QUOTE=Drumdevil]A mac with lesser specifications than a conventional PC or laptop, still outperforms them.[/quote]
[url=http://creativemac.digitalmedianet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=589477&afterinter=true]Again, [b]no it doesn't[/b][/url].
Macs are well built and they've got solid components, but you can get a better spec laptops for cheaper (and in some cases, like After Effects, apps will even run faster on the same hardware).
[QUOTE=ejenks;16729240]The Mac Partition is also useful for [b]designing and stuff like that[/b]. So I say go for the Mac.[/QUOTE]
There is no real reason why Macs are better for 'designing' than Windows - in fact, they aren't. Some people prefer the Leopard interface and that's fair enough, but given a lot of design revolves around Adobe Creative Suite applications, there's no real benefit for using Macs as the industry standard applications are available on both platforms. In fact, Photoshop on Windows is 64-bit enabled, meaning it isn't limited to 2GB of ram - Photoshop on Mac isn't yet 64-bit enabled which gives PCs a [i]slight[/i] advantage as far as Photoshop is concerned (though ram isn't the be-all end-all).
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;16729235]you have to pay out the ass for DIYlaptops OCZ has some if you want to check it out[/QUOTE]
The best kind have upgradeable (modular) GPUs. [img]http://d2k5.com/sa_emots/smile.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=BrettJay;16732054]There is no real reason why Macs are better for 'designing' than Windows - in fact, they aren't. Some people prefer the Leopard interface and that's fair enough, but given a lot of design revolves around Adobe Creative Suite applications, there's no real benefit for using Macs as the industry standard applications are available on both platforms. In fact, Photoshop on Windows is 64-bit enabled, meaning it isn't limited to 2GB of ram - Photoshop on Mac isn't yet 64-bit enabled which gives PCs a [i]slight[/i] advantage as far as Photoshop is concerned (though ram isn't the be-all end-all).[/QUOTE]
As you said, it depends on the user.
For some, working with OS X is much faster/easier/etc. than working with a Windows system.
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[QUOTE=reapaninja;16729073]Dell = overpriced shitty propriety parts[/QUOTE]
That mainly applies to their towers.
You can't exchange much in most other laptops either.
[QUOTE=DrDaxxy;16732523]As you said, it depends on the user.
For some, working with OS X is much faster/easier/etc. than working with a Windows system.[/QUOTE]
I was quoting a guy saying that Macs were for 'design', it's true that users more familiar with OSX might be able to work faster, that's fair enough - but this isn't something exclusive to design - if a person is more experienced with OSX then they'll find it faster/easier/etc. to send emails, browse the internet, manage songs, write up reports, etc. on a Mac than on a Windows based PC.
Point being that there's no real [b]specific, exclusive[/b] reason why designing is better on a Mac, other than any reasons that apply for areas outside of design (someone being more familiar with the user interface of OSX over Windows etc).
[QUOTE=BrettJay;16732910]I was quoting a guy saying that Macs were for 'design', it's true that users more familiar with OSX might be able to work faster, that's fair enough - but this isn't something exclusive to design - if a person is more experienced with OSX then they'll find it faster/easier/etc. to send emails, browse the internet, manage songs, write up reports, etc. on a Mac than on a Windows based PC.
Point being that there's no real [b]specific, exclusive[/b] reason why designing is better on a Mac, other than any reasons that apply for areas outside of design (someone being more familiar with the user interface of OSX over Windows etc).[/QUOTE]
There is a reason why macs are the standard in the design community. And why most big corporations that design stuff use macs.
Why can't you just buy the ASUS I suggested earlier. Kicks your mac's ass, and saves money.
I would say the 15" Macbook
For those who doubt the quality of the Macbook Pro touch pad over any other brand then you haven't actually used one. The multi-touch I've seen on multiple laptops, but what I haven't seen is the fluid motion and the proportionally large touch pad compared to the size of the laptop. The new uni body touch pads are the most fluid accurate ones I've used sofar. If you have the money, get the macbook 15".
[QUOTE=cryticfarm;16734585]Why can't you just buy the ASUS I suggested earlier. Kicks your mac's ass, and saves money.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I mentioned that ASUS earlier, does anyone have any experience with ASUS laptops? Are they any good. I did a little research and the only thing that seems to be bad is that it has some kind of start-up sound >_< Not exactly the most ideal for using in a library or something then.
Asus makes some amazing gaming laptops. Considering the price for what kind of specs they have.
[QUOTE=DrDaxxy;16732523]That mainly applies to their towers.
You can't exchange much in most other laptops either.[/QUOTE]
I was talking about their towers, I was just pointing out that this is the idiot who [I]will[/I] go round shouting DELL IS GOOD RAH RAH RAH DELL IS GOD RAH RAH RAH SEIG HEIL DELL RAH RAH RAH because he's retarded enough to buy alienware
op get this
[url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220578[/url]
[QUOTE=Odellus;16738928]op get this
[url]http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220578[/url][/QUOTE]
...If you look through the thread, then yes, that is definitely an option. I have to say that at the moment I'm split between that ASUS and the Studio XPS.
Go for the XPS.
I am surprised to see Facepunch actually being reasonable about the Mac instead of just pouring on the hate. Like I said before, my MacBook Pro is the best thing I've ever bought, it's completely solid, excellent battery life, excellent gaming abilities, excellent performance, the only downside is the price.
[QUOTE=j00g0t0wnd;16741518]Go for the XPS.[/QUOTE]
just a blind fanboy, jesus christ.
the ASUS will provide a lot better performance as well as having a higher resolution
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the ASUS has a better warranty as well
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I don't see how it running hot could deter people from buying a laptop, it just doesn't make sense. The same thing with the weight argument "oh god I can't carry 7 pounds". And yeah you can add a Blu Ray player.
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"And what about getting Windows Vista Ultimate for the Windows 7 Upgrade"
what do you mean
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